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So, Communists, giving Communists American Weapons... Nothing to see here.
Except Klinger was doing it to prove he was mentally ill.
For going after Trump in lawfare....and for ruining the career of Bob McDonnell in Virginia as well.
False.
It is not what was implied. It is just simply expressing basic insight into MAGA. 100% MAGA does not mean you agree totally with everything he does, it simply means you agree with the concept and general idea of MAGA. Once again, it is just as simple as that. TDS keeps you and some others from getting on board simply because of a caustic kind of hate.
I'll take Klinger wearing a white wedding dress before Labor Day >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this actual mental illness worship any day
What's not possible? Keeping the current payments and starting a new system? If so, I can agree to a point unless you can divert some of the money we currently spend on pork, the Ukraine laundering scheme, green new deal, and a myriad of other programs we could either dissolve or lesson the cost of.
I can agree with you to this end. The fraud comes from knowing what you put in is not what comes out. Key word, "knowing". I have been thankful to not have been near the end product(s), maybe I should have been nearer the end products as I know in my heart what I'd do. The issue that will get the scum in the end is that their SME's love talking and explaining what they were able to accomplish. That will be what costs them in the end...
Yes Sir,
The thing with SS is, it has never been a lock box. SS has been robbed, pilfered, and luted as desired. Never has been a "lockbox" like Al Gore himself stated and W used too in the same debate thinking it sounded smart. Instead of telling Gore that was as stupid remark. SS has never been a lock box.
Take away ALL the stolen wealth of this country and there is more than enough to take care of our citizens who earned the right of SS by paying into it.
And the money taken back as well.... Take back the ill-gotten gains...
The math doesn't seem feasible or fair. I only see two scenarios to even coming close to making this work for the next 50 years.
Scenario 1:
- Boomers get their full SS benefits
- Generations that come afterwards fund boomers, but their payout structure is significantly less
- Eliminate ceiling for paying into SS
- Immediately switch Boomers to means tested SS benefits (e.g., you only get full benefits if you need it and if you're worth millions you get nothing).
- Generations that come afterwards are subject to same rules as boomers.
- Eliminate ceiling for paying into SS
in the second scenario, boomers would never go for it.
Boomers have significantly more wealth than those who are younger. Kind of effed up that the poor young are funding the rich old.
SS can only be solvent if you generate additional SS funds or reduce the payouts (or both). How was that weird?
Had SS not been robbed, raped, and pillaged. This conversation would not be happening at all which is the weird part. Focus on the robbing, raping, and pillaging...
Can you give me an example of how SS has been robbed, raped and pillaged? Be specific.
Social security is a mess and something needs to be done, but the doing of what needs to be done will be extremely difficult. Just to many ifs, when's and buts. I don't see even a satisfactory answer, let alone a good one.
And, F Gowdy, too. They don’t deserve one ounce of empathy. Biden’s bs has directly led to countless other fathers losing sons/daughters. The Afghanistan withdrawal & the border debacle, alone, have led to hundreds of thousands of unnecessary deaths & destroyed families. He won’t even acknowledge the victims, either. Much less worry about those parents missing their children.
F him! He DESERVES to be burdened by that worry & I pray to God that it happens & it tortures him every waking second. Actually, I hope he’s also punished to the fullest extent of the law & that he isn’t even around to worry about that lost pos son. And, he’s only the start. This entire administration needs to be dealt with, accordingly. Everything they’ve done has been intentional. And, they should pay for that. Dearly.
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The SS ponzi scheme math doesn't work out in the end. Esp when new benefits are added. There is an easier answer but i don't want to type it all into the phone. In (very) short, let ppl opt out. Their employer continues to pay the match and the employee keeps his 6.2%. That is a 6.2% raise right now. But do not come back 10 yrs from now expecting govt funded retirement.
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Here is an idea ... what about Byron Donald for Senate to replace Rubio.
And Ben Shapiro or Charlie Kirk for press secretary. They would never do it, but it would be interesting to watch!
And Ben Shapiro or Charlie Kirk for press secretary. They would never do it, but it would be interesting to watch!
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If we go back to 2019 spending levels, we can not only fund SS but also pay off the national debt eventually.
Charlie Kirk's gonna run for AZ governor.
Again. You don't have to rip off people's money.
Just go back to 2019 spending levels and freeze it there for, say, 10 years. Maybe even five. SS is funded and the national debt gets a big dent in it.
Well duh. I hope you weren't asking that question because you really didn't know the answer. Because that's embarrassing.
Yeah, Ye Ole SS payroll deductions are taken from employers and employees equally and put into the general fund via direct deposits from employers and withholding taxes on employees which are paid by the employer for the employee via payroll deductions. (Guess what comes out of that fund???) (Think where a grant of 5 million dollars comes from for a study for how moss grows on a rock but doesn't turn colors.) (Hint, that comes out of the general fund as well.) Do you even know what a business pays into SS, also what an employee pays into SS? Do you know the percentage?
Now go look up the GDP for "payroll" in this country. (That will give you an idea once you look up the proper percentage for SS taken away from the GDP. (What amount of money should be in the general fund now for SS IF it wasn't raped, robbed, and pillaged? (If you want me to take you down this rabbit hole I can but you'd need to make a good down payment on your bill owed to me. I do not work for free.
Gave you a slight taste of what you asked BY providing an example... Was VERY specific. Use your old calculator and figure somethings for yourself if you can afford yourself.... Not sure you can afford anymore lessons from me (This one was free.) but, who knows. I hope you are very well off....
Now........... IF SS truly had a "lock box" AND the money never was touched except for SS. There would be PLENTY of funds for the payee's who now are the recipients...
Please anyone, let me know if I wasn't specific enough... Thanks
Type me your follow-on questions... I will do this, just once...
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Think I saw something the other day (maybe it was posted on here...can't remember) that Kirk is wanting to run for Governor in Arizona I believe it was.
I don't see how boomers are considered rich though. Boomers may have more money simply by working more years and hopefully saving to that point which everyone can do. The younger ones will get that way when their time comes. However, I know more boomers who are just living on SS than not (yes anecdotal). Including those in my family except me (5 other siblings). Many of my friends too. The only saving grace for me is between Military retirement, Civil Service retirement, SS, and my 401K I am doing ok. Not rich, but comfortable.
I typed it for you... (Have an idea we be kin in an area of endeavor...)
Another area that we could have saved 11 billion dollars. Think about it, these attention starved youngsters of today would have done it for free. Must be another series of money laundering where they got a fraction of it while the Bidens got their fair share.
Now that is the problem when you have young people entering the workforce. You give them 6.2% more money and they will not save it for the future. Problems is, we can say that they don't come back expecting government to help them later, but you and I both know the bleeding hearts club band will demand that we help these poor people out.
Just create a "real" lock box... if it was done at inception, no issues...
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