POLITICAL THREAD
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No. It's the same companies designing the polls. CNN partners with ORC, one of the biggest market research companies in the world, and just puts their name on it. Ipsos partners with Reuters, etc.
Maybe a CNN political analyst doesn't know how to interpret the polls
Ok then. If CNN, other media outlets, and the Clinton campaign were doing anything you would call honest objective polling, then I retract my previous statement and no longer believe in polling.
If you think "most" people believe political polling after this last election, you're nuts.
Political polling is nothing more than pathetic psy-ops by the FAKE News/Demonrat Industrial Complex intended to steer public sentiment and discourage alternative viewpoints.
Are we really gonna have this polling debate again? Most political polls are total bullshit. Just look at how horrible they were this past election. Almost all of them were wrong.
I still can't forget that gem that had Hillary up 14 points. Hilarious. I think it was an NBC poll a week or two before the election.
I still can't forget that gem that had Hillary up 14 points. Hilarious. I think it was an NBC poll a week or two before the election.
Nearly every poll is a national poll and the final numbers were Clinton winning 48-46.
Here are some final poll numbers:
- CBS News 45-41
- Fox News 48-44
- ABS News/Wash Post 49-46
- Economist/Yougov 48-45
- Rasmussen 45-43
- NBC News/Survey Monkey 47-41
- Bloomberg 46-43
- Marist 46-44
You're ignorant or blinded by Trump/Bannon, etc. Do some research and think for yourself. You're wrong and I'm just trying to help some of you fools out. (whom I agree with most of the time)
Sure it is. I've done provided enough evidence proving that Reuters was not only biased, but flat out falsified their polls and cooked the books. It's not debatable, regardless of how bad you want to stick up for your profession.
I really don't get the outrage. You act like someone has to be stupid or a conspiracy theorists to believe polling can be biased. These people have literally infiltrated our damn intelligence agencies, court rooms, college campuses, etc..., yet you don't think they could do the same to a polling agency? Who's really ignorant here?
Oh yah, oversampling liberals by a 2-1 margin is totally on the up and up. Again, it's nothing more than fake news generated to spin a narrative, just like these bussed in town hall commies and Trump's 25% approval rating. In their zest to get Crooked Hillary elected they pushed it too far and now the genie is out of the bottle.
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How were they so far off in the days and weeks leading up?
Going so far as to call out the USC poll that had Trump in the lead. It was extremely accurate, and had pretty much the same numbers the whole time. While others would swing to Hillary being up 10-12 %.
That's why people don't trust political polling.
Yup, they hedged their bets in the final poll, generally, but before that it was an 18 month long psy-op propaganda campaign akin to dumping thousands of pro-democracy flyers over North Vietnam
Isn't debatable? You have no idea what you're talking about. and you haven't provided any evidence at all. The one single source you provided on a Breitbart link doesn't know anything about polling.
I'm done talking about it, but you're the one who sounds like an ignorant crazy person.
If Vandalay believes the polls were ethical and on the up and up then at the same time, he has to acknowledge that the "Russia influenced the election with WikiLeaks" narrative is utter BS.
Those emails were out well before those last polls. Those polls all had Hillary winning.
Those emails were out well before those last polls. Those polls all had Hillary winning.
You know nothing about polling and you sound like an idiot.
Seriously, some of you should really stick to topics you have at least a little bit of knowledge on.
Let's do a poll of this thread concerning the level of trust we have in polls.
Of course the Russian wikileaks had nothing to do with the election. Just like there wasn't this liberal conspiracy for 18 months on 40 different competitive polls to keep Republicans from voting.
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Yet there's another poll that gives him a 56% approval rating. MSM only cites the 25% poll. Totally on the up and up.
This is the second times you've said this. Again, I suggest you look up Pat Caddell, before further showing your ignorance on the matter. He's forgotten more about polling, campaigning and elections than you'll ever even attempt to know. Matter of fact, he was the one person who had the exact pulse of this election down.
And, if he didn't know what he was talking about, then why did Reuters feel the need to release an explanation, making excuses for what they had been caught doing, trying to cover it up?
They weren't correcting bad data either, because before they cooked the books, giving Hillary a 90% win probability, they had it right, and Trump was leading by five in their poll.
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There could be no clearer indictment of their utter corruption and fraud than their literal scrubbing of non-Killary flattering data.
Those polls were right x-NBC - nationally. It's just that nationally means diddly. Net, no reason to give a shat.
Trump lost by 2. Any poll that had Trump winning by 5 was off by 7 points.
Agreed, which is why I have no idea why so many people focus on them and misinterpret them.
trust (faith) results from education. interesting position you have there. no wonder you're the resident poll master / savant.
Let's do a poll of this thread concerning the level of trust we have in polls.
in the interest of random sampling I defer my selection to Willy
there were both ABC and NBC polls as late as october showing Clinton with double digit leads, one was as high as 14 points on one day. those are 1984 Reaganesque going to win 49 states type margins. that was absurd and laughable to even see. even the people doing the polling had to think that? you would think? unless they had an agenda and knew the polling was manipulated for a collective purpose.
Screaming Man Made Bomb Threat Outside Trump Tower, Resident Says
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https://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/20170224/downtown/trump-tower-threat-cpd-bomb-threat
Much better than Hillary by +10, with a 90% win probability.
And Reuters made these "changes" in August, so that doesn't mean Trump would have maintained a five point lead throughout.
Witnesses: Bar gunman shouted 'get out of my country'
OLATHE, Kan. (AP) — Witnesses said a man accused of opening fire in a crowded bar yelled at two Indian men to "get out of my country" before pulling the trigger in an attack that killed one of the men and wounded the other, as well as a third man who tried to help.
Hours later, the suspect reportedly told a bartender in another town that he needed a place to hide because he had just killed two Middle Eastern men.
OLATHE, Kan. (AP) — Witnesses said a man accused of opening fire in a crowded bar yelled at two Indian men to "get out of my country" before pulling the trigger in an attack that killed one of the men and wounded the other, as well as a third man who tried to help.
Hours later, the suspect reportedly told a bartender in another town that he needed a place to hide because he had just killed two Middle Eastern men.
He's an idiot. Catch his ass and throw him in jail. Let me guess, though? This is somehow Trump's fault?
I went out for a run at about 6:15am and there was no line. Worked an event from 7:00-8:00 outside the Gaylord and there was no line. It is a large crowd here, no doubt, but I was in and around the Gaylord all morning and never saw a line.
It's on camera, man. I watched it with my own two eyes this morning. They reported two city blocks, at 7am, after people have already been going in. Not quite six, but much more than your none. So you're doing exactly what you accuse Trump of. Welcome to the club.
I'm assuming when the media reports on that Kansas shooting, "Get out of my county!" automatically correlates to white supremacist Trump supporter driven to kill by Trump's rhetoric. I'm anxiously awaiting.
What's funny is I'd bet almost anything that the guy is a democrat.
How many times over the past several years have there been racial shootings like this, only for the media and left to hope its a Republican, but for the person to actually turn out to be a hardcore democrat? Then suddenly the media stops reporting on the story and it magically disappears. Happens almost every time. I could be wrong, but this is how these events turn out 95% of the time.
Huff Post writer caught handing out Russian Trump flags at CPAC.
