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How will they rule ??!

  • YES - Qualified

    Votes: 41 82.0%
  • NO - Disqualified

    Votes: 9 18.0%

  • Total voters
    50
  • Poll closed .
Yeah, Merrick you do dumbass.

(I like how the NYPost used a pic of Garland looking dumbfounded).




From the article:

Attorney General Merrick Garland suggested Tuesday that his lengthy legal career makes it unlikely that he illegally appointed Special Counsel Jack Smith to investigate alleged crimes committed by former President Donald Trump.

“For more than 20 years I was a federal judge. Do I look like someone who would make that basic mistake about the law? I don’t think so,” Garland said in an interview with “NBC Nightly News.”

The attorney general noted that his “favorite room” in the Justice Department is its law library to hammer down the point.
 
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This is simply the conflation of illegal iwth legal, not just spurious, but dishonest.


It's the exact opposite of random, but glad you are willing to respect the definition of random unlike illegal.

You could only have been born to your parents; your DNA is unique and could only have come from them. Any deviation in the events that led to the copulation that produced you would have produced someone else, i.e. a sibling.




As explained aboev, it could not be luck, but even if it wase, your conclusion does not follow: it is, of course, spurious. You not having agency in the choice of your birth is not relevant.



It is neither an excuse, nor is the difference between illegal and legal merely a semantic one, but definitional. You judgmentally falsely accuse others of hypocrisy as part of your schtick, never seeing it in yourself... where it's everywhere.
A completely legalist argument that's obviously insufficient on its face. Not everything legal is good and not everything illegal is bad. Half the thread would be posting 'SlaVErY!' if you were a liberal.
 
You explained none of it. You just said it's wrong vut i have 100s of years of proof. Turns out the harder you work, the higher the odds you'll have a good life.

That's not true about working on narcotics. They get drug tested regularly and fired if they're dirty. What little mining jobs the libs left behind are too precious to risk.

They get tested because its mandatory for insurance and other liability reasons. Iirc the shift foreman has to visibly look over each person before they go underground to also verify they aren't intoxicated or visibly unable to perform.

So apparently you don't know as much about mining as you think.

Even so it all goes back to my original point: regardless of race in the free market you can make a nice life if you work hard and have personal accountability. Handouts poison work ethic and ambition but they do produce votes, which is why libs love them.
We're tested occasionally, but most things only stay in your system for a few days. You have no idea what you're talking about lol. You've obviously never had to grab a cleanse from a head shop to beat a test before.

Now, back to the actual substance. As we've been over repeatedly, there're far more factors that determine success than just hard work. Doesn't matter how hard you work when there's no opportunity. Economic interactions are a two-way street between individuals and society. A 100% completely self-sufficient pioneer alone in the wilderness "can make a nice life" absolutely. But that isn't an economy or economic interaction. 'Why doesn't Egypt just grow more food? If only they'd work harder everything would be fine! Spit on that sand enough and corn'll grow! Like America!'
 
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Yup.

"But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States."

But you know, @Lost In FL heard it from rightwing nutbags, so it must be true. 'They love the Constitution so very much and know so very many things about it. The most, some would even say. Our big, beautiful Constitution. In fact, just yesterday one of my supporters came up to me and said I should make Charlie Kirk my VP. And I thought that was a brilliant idea! Someone 30 would make a great VP.'
Another beauty by our leftist friends.

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It is not a clump of cells, but you do not establish your right to murder it just by location or dependency. That is reason against abortion, not for it. Namely, the necessity of law to protect the helpless individual from amoral ignorant outside actors intent on murdering him or her.

This is what you support. One day you will know you were wrong. I pity you that day.





No, this is not a coherent argument either, nor does it answer my objection.
Don't like abortions?? Just ignore them like you do school shootings.
 
I went over to the rafters today (first time in MONTHS), to see if there was a link to the La Familia/TheVille TBT game, and immediately regretted it. I'm not exaggerating when I say that I panicked and left within 30 seconds. It's horrifying in there.
Blows my mind how many threads there are about Cal on there. Some dumbass has a thread on there asking how Cal would do with the Arkansas roster at UK...like who gives a shit? Lol.
 
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We don't ignore school shootings. You ignore all of our solutions because they aren't the one you want.
On school shootings:

For 25 to 30 billion dollars a year (which is pocket change), you could end public school shootings.* Not reduce, eliminate.

I've outlined this plan on here for years.

*(shootings by a student, teacher, administrator, support staff, parent, visitor, in a public school building)

Now, do you want to end them, or do you want to whine about gun control that is never going to happen?

Fund my plan, and they're gone. Period. (provided they follow my plan)

Let me know when you (the politicians) are ready to do this, and we can make it happen.

Until then, STFU about it.



On abortion:

As far as abortion, with respect to Roe v Wade and the Federal Government.

They're out of it, as they should be. It's up to the states. If you have a problem with abortion laws, take it up with your state.

SCOTUS has made it clear, that the Federal government can't endorse or ban abortions. Constitutionally, it is not a matter for the Federal government to decide. So the candidates, Federal politicians, and those that feel one way or the other about it on here; need to STFU about it.


To summarize: none of us should have to endure any further discussions on here (with respect to the Federal Government) about those two topics.
 
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SCOTUS has made it clear, that the Federal government can't endorse or ban abortions. Constitutionally, it is not a matter for the Federal government to decide. So the candidates, Federal politicians, and those that feel one way or the other about it on here; need to STFU about it.
Ok so I don't know where you got this, but that's not what Dobbs said at all. There absolutely can be federal laws either banning or allowing abortions. The states only have control where federal law doesn't cover. Both sides have offered federal legislation on it. This will be a major political point for the foreseeable future.
 
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Ok so I don't know where you got this, but that's not what Dobbs said at all. There absolutely can be federal laws either banning or allowing abortions. The states only have control where federal law doesn't cover. Both sides have offered federal legislation on it. This will be a major political point for the foreseeable future.
There can be any MANNER of Federal bills passed by Congress and signed into law. That's always been the case, for anything. But, as far as SCOTUS is concerned, they'll be unconstitutional, and so, when challenged, will get the old heave ho, so your point is a stupid one.

What the f*** part of "It shall be left up to the states" did you not understand? Stupid question. It answers itself. And the answer is, no part of it.

That is your allotment of responses from me. So, before you invariably start prattling on about some tangent, save yourself the effort. You've lost your debate privileges, for two reasons. I said, those two topics are closed, and of course, you're the first one to chime in, and even worse, you're a pedantic BORE.

And if you think I'm being authoritarian about it, tough s**t, because you love nothing MORE than arbitrary decisions, based on your fascist political views, so eat a big slice of irony. My treat.
 
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We're tested occasionally, but most things only stay in your system for a few days. You have no idea what you're talking about lol. You've obviously never had to grab a cleanse from a head shop to beat a test before.

Now, back to the actual substance. As we've been over repeatedly, there're far more factors that determine success than just hard work. Doesn't matter how hard you work when there's no opportunity. Economic interactions are a two-way street between individuals and society. A 100% completely self-sufficient pioneer alone in the wilderness "can make a nice life" absolutely. But that isn't an economy or economic interaction. 'Why doesn't Egypt just grow more food? If only they'd work harder everything would be fine! Spit on that sand enough and corn'll grow! Like America!'

Yes which means they cannot show up to work under the influence or even having used narcotics the previous 24/48 hours. Glad we cleared that up, given you said they worked on pain pills all the time.

Of course there are more factors in play but that was never the argument. The factors that are almost always present in successful individuals, either interrace or intrarace, are hard work, impulse control, family (more specifically both parents involved amd having children), and accountability by either themselves or their friends/family.

Handouts go directly to impulse control and self accountability. If you don't have the impulse control to get off and stay off the teet, you will never rise above your monthly stipend. Thats exactly where poor blacks and poor whites are now. Latinos are above both groups because of work ethic, but a portion of their group is drug down because they get drunk on handouts. Indians are above all those groups because they work hard but take no handouts.

It really isnt complicated. The same factors dictated general success in America for hundreds of years. The only variance really is how one defined success.
 
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That isnt even remotely the same as white privilege.

Do you remind those incredibly hard working coal miners of their white privilege? Im sure theyd love to hear about it.

Btw since you implied you are involved in running a mine - i hope you employ an equal amount of blacks and women. Hopefully you havent discriminated and hired only white men. Surely you practice what you preach.

Ill hang up and listen.

(For some reason it isnt quoting the post so I have to to tag @Dionysus444 )
 
I remember when Charlotte Courts were demolished in Lexington, around 2000, and the news interviewed this elderly woman. She was distraught because she'd watched 3 generations get born, grow up, and start a new generation, and so on, all right there in the projects.

If you don't see the very obvious problem with that, then you're not paying attention. Government programs, starting with the New Deal are tools of oppression (as operated and funded by the Federal government) You can disagree of course, because it's everyone's right to be willfully stupid. (there are some on here that are living proof of that)

Constructive, useful, genuine help MUST come with some degree of accountability and visible progress towards improving your lot. Otherwise, it's just warehousing. To keep them contained/a new form of slavery. Only in THIS case, the government is the master/plantation owner.
 
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There can be any MANNER of Federal bills passed by Congress and signed into law. That's always been the case, for anything. But, as far as SCOTUS is concerned, they'll be unconstitutional, and so, when challenged, will get the old heave ho, so your point is a stupid one.

What the f*** part of "It shall be left up to the states" did you not understand? Stupid question. It answers itself. And the answer is, no part of it.

That is your allotment of responses from me. So, before you invariably start prattling on about some tangent, save yourself the effort. You've lost your debate privileges, for two reasons. I said, those two topics are closed, and of course, you're the first one to chime in, and even worse, you're a pedantic BORE.

And if you think I'm being authoritarian about it, tough s**t, because you love nothing MORE than arbitrary decisions, based on your fascist political views, so eat a big slice of irony. My treat.
No, you’re fundamentally misunderstanding somehow. Dobbs did not limit what the federal government could do in regards to abortion at all. Congress is free to pass any law they want, what Dobbs did was remove the constitutional protections derived from Roe. So now the constitution doesn’t speak on abortion at all and Congress can do as they please on the issue, instead of having a constitutional right to abortion from the 14th. Federal abortion laws are all now fair game.
 
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Oh, I heard you the first time, and it doesn't change the fact that you are wrong. No matter how many times you repeat it. Now STFU about it. Or argue with someone else.
 
Yes which means they cannot show up to work under the influence or even having used narcotics the previous 24/48 hours. Glad we cleared that up, given you said they worked on pain pills all the time.
If you get popped for a random test you’re got if you’ve used recently whether it was on the clock or not. Duh. I’ve been tested three times in the last two years though now that you have me thinking about it. You think that’s a real deterrent? Whatever, you’re obviously talking about this from a theoretical perspective and not a practical one, so keep thinking whatever you like. Yes, there are many regulations in place to make sure everyone is sober all the time. You are safe.
That isnt even remotely the same as white privilege.

Do you remind those incredibly hard working coal miners of their white privilege? Im sure theyd love to hear about it.

Btw since you implied you are involved in running a mine - i hope you employ an equal amount of blacks and women. Hopefully you havent discriminated and hired only white men. Surely you practice what you preach.

Ill hang up and listen.

(For some reason it isnt quoting the post so I have to to tag @Dionysus444 )
? I don’t run anything. Other than machines. Ovens, crushers, pulverizers, calorimeters, scales. What gave you that idea?
 
Oh, I heard you the first time, and it doesn't change the fact that you are wrong. No matter how many times you repeat it. Now STFU about it. Or argue with someone else.
How? Just explain. You don’t have to be all dramatic.

For instance what are you even quoting with your "It shall be left up to the states”? That isn’t in the decision. Or the direct wording of the 10th if you were claiming that.
 
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From the Federalist Society (a group that advocates for originalist (which you've admitted to being) interpretation of the Constitution)

"There are weighty legal, moral, medical, and political or policy arguments both for and against abortion, at different points during the gestation period and under varying maternal and fetal circumstances. But those are not the stuff of constitutional adjudication. The point of Dobbs, as the Court repeatedly said, was to return those arguments to the political process, meaning “to the people and their elected representatives.” Moreover, the Court repeatedly made clear its assumption that those elected representatives would be state legislators."

Now, please STFU about it.
 
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The only thing that stays in your system (urine, mouth swab) longer than 3 to 4 days is weed. I'm not positive about Psilocybin (I've never even heard of someone testing for that)

A hair test will f*** you for months though. DOT testing (which is what most people go by) tests for these in their drug panel:

  • Marijuana (THC)
  • Cocaine.
  • Amphetamines.
  • Opioids.
  • Phencyclidine (PCP)


    Just out of curiosity. A quick show of hands for those that have tapped all 5 of those at some point in your lifetime

    The real travesty is, that the one that's most likely to get you popped is the least harmful. And the one that is probably the most abused, most likely to contribute workplace safety issues, even after it's out of your system (due to contributing factors like being dead tired after a late night using it) isn't even ON the f****** list. (Alcohol)
 
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Don't like abortions?? Just ignore them like you do school shootings.

I don't ignore school shootings, but even if I did, it would have no bearing whatsoever with respect to me not "lking" abortions.

It really is incredible what passes for "thinking" between people like you and dion.

You people have no idea what your "arguments" reveal about you, and even less the magnitude of your error. As I said, if I was still amenable to voting left, your postings alone would convince me otherwise. Never mind dion's revolutionary communist takes.
 
sam's idea of ignoring what you don't like, brought this scene to mind. LOL (not saying it's point for point, but it reminded me of this, and also, I just really like this scene) LOL

 
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