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POLITICAL THREAD

How will they rule ??!

  • YES - Qualified

    Votes: 41 82.0%
  • NO - Disqualified

    Votes: 9 18.0%

  • Total voters
    50
  • Poll closed .
Cut off every single form of public assistance and they’ll deport themselves.

It’s unbelievable that we even have to talk about this….the taxpayer is supporting millions of invaders and there’s even a debate about what to do about it? Insane.
Not all illegals....but still....

 
Not all illegals....but still....

Yeah, I'm sure the homeless will get a lot of use out of the gym and art studio. You want to help these poor souls then get them a GD job!
 
Anybody else seeing all these Galvanize USA commercials? 99% of my TV watching is streaming and they're on constantly. Guess it's a lib/far left women's organization. Every commercial is free this/that..."more not less" reproductive rights for our daughters...free child care.....and so on. Amazing in this country today how many people want everything for free. Country is broke.....but free, free, free.
 
Also, I'm pretty sure our Village Idiot Sambo has parroted almost every single one as gospel.

Shameful, the level of stupidity of some.
Speaking of sam's stupidity ... was thinking about this as I was mowing the lawn during another God-given beautiful day...

You know how he continually dogs pro-lifers by demanding we pay for the saved child their entire life?

I wonder if the left that supports trans-ing the kids that survive will pay for the lifetime of medical procedures and mental assistance for the kids that they mutilate? I'm going to guess no ... unless you count our money...
 
And once again, you're trying to obfuscate because you have wrapped YOURSELF in a triple pretzel and cannot get out. Your hypothetical doesn't make ANY sense.
- If the human baby was viable, and the mother's life was not in jeopardy, then there is no procedure. - If the human baby is viable, and the mother is dying, then you'd have to try to save the child ... no choice necessary.
- If the mother is okay and the baby is not viable, then there is no choice either, but that isn't in your rule set.
-- The best example of your rule set is an ectopic pregnancy, except the child is not viable yet.
SOOOO, your attempt at "gotcha" is really stupid. Because you're in a bind and have no other way out.

I never said the mother's decision carries more weight. I said it is her decision, not mine. As far as the baby choosing ... the thing about unborn babies, they don't communicate real well. They do not have a fully functioning brain. In most people that comes later, unlike you.

NOW that is settled, you still haven't defined "murder".
You're projecting, no one is obfuscating but you. It's a very simple hypothetical. So stop trying to modify it and just answer.
 
So who gets to live? The fetus or the mother?

Both! Zero reason from a medical standpoint to terminate either one. Again, this hypothetical scenario is fictitious for 99.9 percent of mothers under the care of a reputable OBGYN. Scare tactics from the pro choice left and the tic tok generation creating scenarios that again, don’t happen in real life everyday obstetrics.

The physicians saying they are scared of legal consequences for medically terminating a baby would be doing so according to the mothers wishes for whatever reason…possible risk, deformity, potential low viability.
 
Both! Zero reason from a medical standpoint to terminate either one. Again, this hypothetical scenario is fictitious for 99.9 percent of mothers under the care of a reputable OBGYN. Scare tactics from the pro choice left and the tic tok generation creating scenarios that again, don’t happen in real life everyday obstetrics.

The physicians saying they are scared of legal consequences for medically terminating a baby would be doing so according to the mothers wishes for whatever reason…possible risk, deformity, potential low viability.
I don't care whether it's .1% as you say here or has literally never happened once. It's a hypothetical. You just pick at the question and don't answer it.
 
You're projecting, no one is obfuscating but you. It's a very simple hypothetical. So stop trying to modify it and just answer.
I did answer it. Several times TBH. You go back and try reading comprehension. Your hypothetical is just stupid. How would the baby communicate its choice? But you are in a bind, so you're going to continue to obfuscate.

Let's roll with the logic ONE more time ... if the baby was viable, then the mother is either dying or okay. If the mother is dying, then we have to get the baby, because if we don't, they will both die. If the mother is okay, then there is no reason to choose, because there is no need for a procedure.

You are asking the wrong question. The real question you're trying to play gotcha with is "which one is more 'valuable' and how do you decide value"? Well, that is another simple answer ... in God's eyes, they are of equal value. Why don't you ask Him which one He would choose?
 
Dion, how do you define a "human individual" without using the words, or synonyms of "human" and "individual".
Also, define murder.
 
I did answer it. Several times TBH. You go back and try reading comprehension. Your hypothetical is just stupid. How would the baby communicate its choice? But you are in a bind, so you're going to continue to obfuscate.

Let's roll with the logic ONE more time ... if the baby was viable, then the mother is either dying or okay. If the mother is dying, then we have to get the baby, because if we don't, they will both die. If the mother is okay, then there is no reason to choose, because there is no need for a procedure.

You are asking the wrong question. The real question you're trying to play gotcha with is "which one is more 'valuable' and how do you decide value"? Well, that is another simple answer ... in God's eyes, they are of equal value. Why don't you ask Him which one He would choose?
I've repeatedly engaged in good faith. Since you refuse to answer there's no point in continuing.
 
I always tip well because our terrible system is dependent on it. You know how much servers in KY make? 2.13 an hour. It's absurd. Inexcusable.
Yes, and at an upscale restaurant in Lexington like Ruby's, that 2.13 an hour becomes a six figure yearly income. It doesn't bother me a bit, because I would just as soon tip the server directly instead of absorbing the cost on the bill. It works better for them in the long run. You think they're better off getting 20 per hour, without tips? No way in Hell.
 
Yes, and at an upscale restaurant in Lexington like Ruby's, that 2.13 an hour becomes a six figure yearly income. It doesn't bother me a bit, because I would just as soon tip the server directly instead of absorbing the cost on the bill. It works better for them in the long run. You think they're better off getting 20 per hour, without tips? No way in Hell.
And how many restaurants across the state aren't Ruby's in Lexington? Like I said, if people want to leave gratuity, more power to 'em. But the base rate should be higher and more consistent.
 
Also, I know some sorry pieces of shit that refuse to tip regardless of whether the service is good or bad.
Theoretically that should be their right to be pieces of crap. But when the server's hourly wage literally depends on it no one should be working for free.
 
And how many restaurants across the state aren't Ruby's in Lexington? Like I said, if people want to leave gratuity, more power to 'em. But the base rate should be higher and more consistent.
Fine, then restaurants, the majority of which operate under very thin profit margins in the best of times, will simply pass the increased expense to patrons, who in turn often have their own struggles to consider, especially among those who eat at non-Ruby level restaurants. So, the patrons will either stop tipping altogether or leave nominal tips, since the servers are now being "paid", and the servers will find themselves with less disposable income. And thus they'll work in new professions, and your new server at Ruby's will be on the competence level of a bad fast food employee. Great plan, ace.
 
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