POLITICAL THREAD

[FirewithFire]

Biden's killshot for ICE cars? I wonder if they banned private jets at the same time?

Biden unveils latest attempt to kill off gas cars before 2032

The White House told automakers they have eight years to squeeze another 16 mpg out of their cars if they want to stay in business - while the fuel efficiency of their trucks will have to double

www.dailymail.co.uk

https://www.spglobal.com/commodityinsights/en/market-insights/latest-news/oil/060724-biden-administration-unveils-new-ev-oriented-fuel-economy-standards

 

[screwduke1]

 

[ukalum1988]

 

[AustinTXCat]

Ya get your info from the Russian plant working in the FBI?? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

 

[Dionysus444]

I’ll go back to what I sent before. You’re struggling with this entire conversation, and I am surprised you continue to make statements that don’t reflect your statement in question, which was a response to a question I asked.

We aren’t talking about what arbitrary number makes someone an adult versus a child. You’re trying to point us in that direction.

Here’s for try number four.

We were talking about what arbitrary number makes someone a fetus versus a baby. And I used examples of other arbitrary ages used for legal purposes. Examples. Supporting evidence. Now it’s your turn.

 

[Dionysus444]

Priority is always placed on the mother because that’s in the best interest of both the mom and the kid. The scenario you’re mentioning is typically stuff from soap operas and not real modern medicine. The whole doctor coming out to the waiting room asking the father which one to save is just not reality today.

Medical teams always have the goal of the best outcome for both mother and baby and the vast majority of risk has already been assessed and planned for way ahead of time before labor comes into play.

It isn't supposed to be a real-life scenario, though those do play out in rare cases. It's a thought experiment. A hypothetical. What it really is is a variant of the Trolley Problem, but that's neither here nor there. If both supposed lives are theoretically equal, why save the mother? The fetus has many more years ahead of it, shouldn't they be prioritized?

wtf are you talking about? Several of us have already addressed that. You are just being a jerk, again.

And still no defn of murder and no successful communist countries ... ever.

No, no one has as of yet.

 

[TheFrontRunner]

 

[trueblujr2]

So the manifesto shows the clear agenda that the trans person's agenda was to murder white Christians.

Change those 2 words to almost any other demo, and this would be a "hate crime".

Even the left should agree w that.

Also, the person was also full of drugs that, maybe, we should re-evaluate the drugs usage. The drugs that are supposed to "help" people are actually making a significant number worse, far worse. Bad enough they are willing to shoot completely innocent children. Sad how down is up and up is down in society these days.

That’s why I like my signature so much. John Prine sang it. Obviously in a bit of a different context, but the statement on its own applies in many contexts. Especially with what’s going on in the world today.

 

[TheFrontRunner]

 

[TheFrontRunner]

 

[Lost In FL]

 

[Lost In FL]

 

[JSgorocks]

We were talking about what arbitrary number makes someone a fetus versus a baby. And I used examples of other arbitrary ages used for legal purposes. Examples. Supporting evidence. Now it’s your turn.

You’re still lost. Re-read that entire paragraph and maybe, just maybe you can come back into the conversation on the 5th try.

 

[Lost In FL]

It isn't supposed to be a real-life scenario, though those do play out in rare cases. It's a thought experiment. A hypothetical. What it really is is a variant of the Trolley Problem, but that's neither here nor there. If both supposed lives are theoretically equal, why save the mother? The fetus has many more years ahead of it, shouldn't they be prioritized?

I know where you are trying to go with this gotcha "thought experiment". But the reality is the fetus is less likely, and may not survive outside the mother. If they could out off the procedure a few weeks or months, then maybe both can be saved. This is personal ... my DIL is going through a similar situation tomorrow AM. I pray they both make it.

No, no one has as of yet.

No successful communist countries? Agree. See that wasnt so hard, you should feel better about yourself. Groomer.

 

[Lost In FL]

You’re still lost. Re-read that entire paragraph and maybe, just maybe you can come back into the conversation on the 5th try.

Dammit!! I am Lost (TM)!! Do not try to give him my title!!

Lol

 

[Lost In FL]

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Preach!!

 

[TheFrontRunner]

Probably still wearing some of their "Patriot Front' clothes

 

[Dionysus444]

I know where you are trying to go with this gotcha "thought experiment". But the reality is the fetus is less likely, and may not survive outside the mother. If they could out off the procedure a few weeks or months, then maybe both can be saved. This is personal ... my DIL is going through a similar situation tomorrow AM. I pray they both make it.

No successful communist countries? Agree. See that wasnt so hard, you should feel better about yourself. Groomer.

I hope nothing but good things for your personal situation. But as for the hypothetical, it isn’t a ‘gotcha’ and you didn’t answer it. I specifically predicated that the fetus was viable in the premise. Both mother and fetus have equal chance to live, but you can only save one. Who and why?

 

[Lost In FL]

I hope nothing but good things for your personal situation. But as for the hypothetical, it isn’t a ‘gotcha’ and you didn’t answer it. I specifically predicated that the fetus was viable in the premise. Both mother and fetus have equal chance to live, but you can only save one. Who and why?

Simple. If i can only save one, i would ask the mother which one. It is her choice.

 

[sefus12]

Biden's killshot for ICE cars? I wonder if they banned private jets at the same time?

Biden unveils latest attempt to kill off gas cars before 2032

The White House told automakers they have eight years to squeeze another 16 mpg out of their cars if they want to stay in business - while the fuel efficiency of their trucks will have to double

www.dailymail.co.uk

https://www.spglobal.com/commodityinsights/en/market-insights/latest-news/oil/060724-biden-administration-unveils-new-ev-oriented-fuel-economy-standards

Hopefully whatever utter BS actions the Biden admin makes can/will be reversed when Trump is back in office.

 

[Dionysus444]

Simple. If i can only save one, i would ask the mother which one. It is her choice.

Why?

 

[Lost In FL]

So i answered that.

We agree there is zero successful attempts at communism, and waiting on a defn of murder.

 

[Lost In FL]

Why?

Why is it her choice? Are you daft? It is her AND her childs lives.

This may be anethema to your worldview, but not all of us want to control everyone.

Who would you pick? The mother or the child and why?

 

[sambowieshin]

No respect for the people that protect you and your loved ones. Sad. Typical modern American. Thinks disrespecting the police and teachers is cool. And people wonder why crime and schools are so bad now.

https://www.8newsnow.com/investigators/las-vegas-police-fbi-foil-reported-terror-plot/

FBI arrests Idaho man who planned to ‘die while killing others on behalf of ISIS’ in church attacks

The FBI arrested the 18-year-old after he made a social media statement about “respond(ing) to the call to the caliphate by killing Jews and Christians"

www.police1.com

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/02/13/fbi-surveillance-terrorist-attack-00141200

The Russian 'spy', the NSA mole and the FBI sting that got him

A former NSA employee admitted last year to sharing classified docs with a purported Russian agent.

www.bbc.com

 

[Dionysus444]

Why is it her choice? Are you daft? It is her AND her childs lives.

This may be anethema to your worldview, but not all of us want to control everyone.

Who would you pick? The mother or the child and why?

It is her OR her 'child's' life. Why should only she get to choose? The fetus doesn't get a voice.

I would pick the mother, because the fetus isn't a person yet.

 

[Lost In FL]

It is her OR her 'child's' life. Why should only she get to choose? The fetus doesn't get a voice.

I would pick the mother, because the fetus isn't a person yet.

What is the fetus? Is it human? Or a horse?

So you define a person how?

EDIT: glad you chose one. Since we're dealing with hypo's ... would you still pick the mother if she was a diehard capitalist, MAGA, vocally anti-LGBT+-/&? Or would you choose the child?

 

[OHIO COLONEL]

Biden Admin Quietly Injecting Radical Policies Into Housing Market — And It Might Bring The Whole System Down​

Biden Admin Quietly Injecting Radical Policies Into Housing Market — And It Might Bring The Whole System Down

The Biden administration has pushed for easier home financing for Americans amid higher surging housing costs, increasing the risk of a wave of defaults.

dailycaller.com

 

[JumperJack]

Our capital, once symbolic of the virtues of the settlers of this country, now more akin to Babylon, Sodom, or Gomorrah.

 

[screwduke1]

And Now, the Associated Press Has Shattered Hamas' Lies About the Gaza Death Toll

townhall.com

 

[JumperJack]

Has Europe awakened?

 

[screwduke1]

Our capital, once symbolic of the virtues of the settlers of this country, now more akin to Babylon, Sodom, or Gomorrah.

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But thank God none of them left tire marks anywhere

 

[BlueRunner11]

It isn't supposed to be a real-life scenario, though those do play out in rare cases. It's a thought experiment. A hypothetical. What it really is is a variant of the Trolley Problem, but that's neither here nor there. If both supposed lives are theoretically equal, why save the mother? The fetus has many more years ahead of it, shouldn't they be prioritized?

No, no one has as of yet.

This site is garbage. I wrote a response but the site glitched and it’s gone.

Anyway, the baby’s health is dependent on the mother. The mother makes this whole thing go round and a healthy mother always provides the best outcome for the child plus she may have a household of dependent kids at home already.
Also, she’s the paying patient and has likely signed a living will and a personalized care plan before it even gets to this scenario.

 

[Caveman Catfan]

😂
😍

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I wonder how he feels about being a Sicilian coach in the NBA finals.

 

[Caveman Catfan]

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This is the BS the cult cannot explain without a tortured tap dance. Another reason D-Sus has no credibility. The Cult wants to pick the winners and losers and pretend it’s justice. The idea of the scales of justice being blind is a foreign concept to these fools.

 

[screwduke1]

 

[Caveman Catfan]

When was the last time a pregnant woman said, “Oh my fetus is kicking? Do you want to feel the fetus kick?”

These cucks pretending that it is not a baby and denying it a human life should be laughed to the curb.

 

[TheFrontRunner]

 

[Caveman Catfan]

This site is garbage. I wrote a response but the site glitched and it’s gone.

Anyway, the baby’s health is dependent on the mother. The mother makes this whole thing go round and a healthy mother always provides the best outcome for the child plus she may have a household of dependent kids at home already.
Also, she’s the paying patient and has likely signed a living will and a personalized care plan before it even gets to this scenario.

What is cool is that the baby provides health for the mother, even years after birth, because the baby is not a part of the mother, but offers a distinct DNA that benefits the mother.

 

[JumperJack]

I don't think it or abortion are murder. What it is is a deflection from the conundrum you've found yourself in. If a medical emergency means someone has to choose which to kill, mother or fetus, who do they pick? And who gets to choose for them?

There’s no conundrum for anybody with a brain, Karl. I can’t believe you think there is.

Maybe in your world, a woman’s husband and her doctors can’t decide between saving her life or the life of an unborn child.

One thing is clear: you are the Don Quixote of this board and Shinbone is your Sancho Panza.
Tilting at fake monsters.

99% of abortions are birth control and you and he want to focus on the 1%.

 

[TheFrontRunner]

All of a sudden the rule of law is on the ballot again...