Incomparable. MTG is a QAnon nutbag who posts about Jewish space lasers starting forest fires. AOC is a boring European centrist.
Incomparable. MTG is a QAnon nutbag who posts about Jewish space lasers starting forest fires. AOC is a boring European centrist.
Save the drivel for mindless liberal morons. Human life begins upon conception. The fetus/baby cannot become anything other than human. You're just trying to justify your lust for eliminating those you don't want like babies, jews, and Trump.
I said it before and will say it again, you are an evil person.
I almost never do it but I looked at CNN’s account of it and their headline is that Gaza is saying 200 people were killed to save four. Liberals are rotten to the core.In normal times, the President of the USA would’ve gone public with congratulations and support 5 minutes after Israel announced the raid and its success.
Known for years and fully prepared. I know who the enemy is.You want to understand who these people are.
If you can't see through their rigamarole and specious argumentation, you are going to have a much tougher go at it in this life and you will not be prepared to protect those you care about.
Who am I to determine when a fully human person begins? Production of sperm and egg, act of deliverance of sperm to egg, fertilization of egg by sperm, initial now-joined zygote cell reproduction, implantation of zygote into uterine wall, cell type differentiation, internal organ formation, circulatory system initiation, response to stimuli, viability outside womb, birth, separation of umbilical cord, crawling, walking, talking, weaning, cooking, personal independence, financial independence, parental death. All are just some of the steps involved in the ongoing process of life.
We, as a society based on laws, have to define when an individual person is conveyed individual legal rights. We have to draw an arbitrary line somewhere in that ongoing process, just like we do with other phases of life for legal reasons. Such as drinking age at 21 or military service without parental consent at 18. Currently in America that line is birth. That seems the cleanest, as it is generally the moment of physical separation. But I understand other people having different opinions. My personal opinion on the matter isn't a strong one, like I said at the start I 'm just one voice in the crowd. As you need to realize you are as well, and it isn't just as simple as 'Baby murderer!!!1!!'
@Stan the caddy is the biggest fvcking pussy on this board. I staunchly disagree with 90+% of what Sam, Dion, Nightwish etc have to say but at least they get in the ring and state their case for they believe in,
I would assume self-defense?Why isn't it still murder in that one case?
There is not one serious person who considers that a legitimate prosecution or verdict. The entire exercise was designed for one purpose: to get sheep like yourself to use the words felon and Trump in the same sentence.Maybe the 34 felony counts he was just convicted of? Or any of the numerous other pending charges?
It is really quite simple. And this is going to end bad for your position. How do you define a person?Who am I to determine when a fully human person begins?
Or knowing what a shitpost is?How many nights a week does Biden wake up now knowing where he is?
Actually it is quite simple. Consider this for the scenario in which the mother's life is in jeopardy ... if a doctor COULD save both, would they? That answer is YES. Also, if the doctor does NOTHING, then both patients would die. Therefore, it is technically a procedure to save the mother and unfortunately, the child often doesn't or is unable to survive.I honestly hadn’t thought of this before. Tough situation and good question.
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No. C'mon Hyman. You're smarter than that. You're being unusually mentally lazy on this one. See my previous post.I would assume self-defense?
Because that’s when actual medical issues cause there to be a distinction and a prioritization.I honestly hadn’t thought of this before. Tough situation and good question.
She is YOU. I see no difference other than you are more evil.AOC is a boring European centrist.
Yes Dion. You said ... "There aren’t hard-and-fast scientific demarcations on these [baby, child, adult] things."You have the burden of proof my man
Here's the statement you're referring to that you bolded in its appropriate context:Uh oh. About to get bad for you. I advise to back out. Up to you if you don’t want to continue and get embarrassed. I’ll leave you with this (I understand if I don’t get a response):
I highlighted your statement and said it was inaccurate. That statement, which has continued the conversation based on your quote response, is on you. It’s not on me. I can’t prove a negative and it’s illogical to think I should.
I gave other examples of similar concepts in that very post. And in this one on the same page I lay out specific other legal examples of the same thing:Good point, even though you were trying to make the opposite one. All of those things, a “man”, “woman”, or “baby” are all societally defined. When does a child cease being a ‘baby’ and become a ‘child’? Or when a ‘child’ becomes an ‘adult’? There aren’t hard-and-fast scientific demarcations on these things. Just societally determined, vaguely agreed upon arbitrary lines.
Are you arguing that 21 should always be the legal drinking age in all circumstances? Of course not, many societies have different drinking ages. Some idiots shouldn't be drinking no matter how old they are. It isn't a hard-and-fast scientific law like the Second Law of Thermodynamics. That's readily apparent, but I can continue providing examples if you'd like. Now where's your support for your assertion that the opposite is true and these things are concrete? Because that's the only way my assertion could possibly be "inaccurate".We, as a society based on laws, have to define when an individual person is conveyed individual legal rights. We have to draw an arbitrary line somewhere in that ongoing process, just like we do with other phases of life for legal reasons. Such as drinking age at 21 or military service without parental consent at 18.
Merriam-Webster has it as: a human individual. Seems reasonable to me. What's your definition?It is really quite simple. And this is going to end bad for your position. How do you define a person?
What about if the fetus is viable and can be saved OR the mother can, but not both?Actually it is quite simple. Consider this for the scenario in which the mother's life is in jeopardy ... if a doctor COULD save both, would they? That answer is YES. Also, if the doctor does NOTHING, then both patients would die. Therefore, it is technically a procedure to save the mother and unfortunately, the child often doesn't or is unable to survive.
So, it is not really a good question. It is a tough situation because sane, moral people want to save BOTH lives, but unfortunately are unable to.
Yeah people demanding their equal rights and recognition in society is so mean…
You mean murder? You baby murderer.a distinction and a prioritization.
On my watch, lol.
Good point, even though you were trying to make the opposite one. All of those things, a “man”, “woman”, or “baby” are all societally defined. When does a child cease being a ‘baby’ and become a ‘child’? Or when a ‘child’ becomes an ‘adult’? There aren’t hard-and-fast scientific demarcations on these things. Just societally determined, vaguely agreed upon arbitrary lines.
Typically lazy of you. You once again demonstrate zero ability to think on your own. You need someone else to tell you what to think. Good thing I'm here.Merriam-Webster has it as: a human individual. Seems reasonable to me. What's your definition?
Who am I to determine when a fully human person begins? Production of sperm and egg, act of deliverance of sperm to egg, fertilization of egg by sperm, initial now-joined zygote cell reproduction, implantation of zygote into uterine wall, cell type differentiation, internal organ formation, circulatory system initiation, response to stimuli, viability outside womb, birth, separation of umbilical cord, crawling, walking, talking, weaning, cooking, personal independence, financial independence, parental death. All are just some of the steps involved in the ongoing process of life.
We, as a society based on laws, have to define when an individual person is conveyed individual legal rights. We have to draw an arbitrary line somewhere in that ongoing process, just like we do with other phases of life for legal reasons. Such as drinking age at 21 or military service without parental consent at 18. Currently in America that line is birth. That seems the cleanest, as it is generally the moment of physical separation. But I understand other people having different opinions. My personal opinion on the matter isn't a strong one, like I said at the start I 'm just one voice in the crowd. As you need to realize you are as well, and it isn't just as simple as 'Baby murderer!!!1!!'
My man, we know what statement is being referenced. I just told you that in my previous response, you don’t need to reiterate it back to me. You just gave all that bluster to completely avoid what you’re saddled with.Here's the statement you're referring to that you bolded in its appropriate context:
I gave other examples of similar concepts in that very post. And in this one on the same page I lay out specific other legal examples of the same thing:
Are you arguing that 21 should always be the legal drinking age in all circumstances? Of course not, many societies have different drinking ages. Some idiots shouldn't be drinking no matter how old they are. It isn't a hard-and-fast scientific law like the Second Law of Thermodynamics. That's readily apparent, but I can continue providing examples if you'd like. Now where's your support for your assertion that the opposite is true and these things are concrete? Because that's the only way my assertion could possibly be "inaccurate".
Let me clarify/simplify this ... intentions.Actually it is quite simple. Consider this for the scenario in which the mother's life is in jeopardy ... if a doctor COULD save both, would they? That answer is YES. Also, if the doctor does NOTHING, then both patients would die. Therefore, it is technically a procedure to save the mother and unfortunately, the child often doesn't or is unable to survive.
So, it is not really a good question. It is a tough situation because sane, moral people want to save BOTH lives, but unfortunately are unable to.
This pathetic attempt belies the shoddy, sophomoric moral underpinnings that the pro-abortion crowd relies upon.You mean murder? You baby murderer.
Yep. People act like they don't have to take the baby out regardless of whether it's alive or dead. If you can take it out and keep it alive then why not do that.... If you could save both but choose to kill the baby.... It really is simple once you realize the reality.Let me clarify/simplify this ... intentions.
With respect to the doctor's actions ... is it intentional to kill the person/patient/baby (all 3 are synonymous in this scenario)? If intentional, then yes, that is murder. If a heart transplant goes bad and the patient dies, is that murder? No! It is an unfortunate reality. Similarly, when the mother's life is in jeopardy ... if the mother's life WASNT in jeopardy, then the procedure would not be taking place in the first place, so the doctor is not going into the procedure with the intention to kill the baby.
Every other case of abortion, it is by definition, the intentional ending of an innocent human being, and that is murder. Period.
And if Elon had not bought Twitter, the info may still not have been out there the way it is now.The biggest case of election interference in the world, all reduced to a byline by an admitted fraud of a pandemic and afterward by a staged and also false "insurrection."
Never forget that the corrupt will lie incessantly and wherever possible, knowing full well it will take years for the truth to come out. In the meantime they will grind to dust absolutely everything anyone has built and not care one bit. They don't operate with any honor, as there is no honor among thieves.