ADVERTISEMENT

POLITICAL THREAD

How will they rule ??!

  • YES - Qualified

    Votes: 41 82.0%
  • NO - Disqualified

    Votes: 9 18.0%

  • Total voters
    50
  • Poll closed .
The "greening of the world" is nonsense first off. Some places would be greener, others would be much less green in a hypothetical warmer future. And there are plenty of exceptions to carbon emissions for developing countries. This thread points at China's all the time. If you acknowledge the problem yet want to still proliferate fossil fuels what's your proposal to address the issue? So far you're just being vague.

If the world had not shown greening over the past decade, you may have a point.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 55wildcat
Low energy cucks
You do have to be worried about it though right? Haley's getting around a quarter of Republican support in most of these states and they're only voting for her as a vote for anybody but Trump. Bunch of Haley voters answering no to the "Vote Republican in Nov. regardless of nominee?" question according to exit polling.
 
If the world had not shown greening over the past decade, you may have a point.
There are intentional "greening" projects being undertaken by people in specific places, but vegetation loss continues in the poorest communities with underdeveloped economies that you were referencing. Brazil is not getting greener.
 
Total carbon emissions are completely irrelevant to the discussion though as Earth has a carbon cycle that deals with natural carbon emission levels. Humans are responsible for the current increase in atmospheric CO2 by pumping more into the system than it evolved to pull out, not because they cause all the emissions physically themselves. Atmospheric CO2 levels have remained stable for millennia until we started burning fossil fuels en masse, we know that from ice cores.

Plant some trees and shut up, commie boy.

They convert co2 to oxygen, don't ya know?
 
  • Like
Reactions: Girthang
I do think it would help if the MAGA crowd stopped trolling the Haley followers. I need to heed my advice here.
A large portion of MAGA just wants to be entertained. Maybe they don't realize a portion of the party they're apart of but also hates won't vote for Trump in Nov. Several regulars here have already admitted previously that Trump can't win the general; that he's toxic and women largely can't stand him. But...they can't leave ole Don so here we are. To win you need several groups behind you, not a swath of angry middle aged men. IMO chances are high I'll be here in Nov. saying the choice was right there, it could've been Haley who would crush Biden, but nope. Maybe at some point this thread will understand you're in the minority if you think the election was stolen and only Trump can save not only the country but the world.
 
We've been both a ball of ice and of fire. Neither of which is good for human habitation, wouldn't you agree? You're just being dumb, those conditions were caused by the circumstances of their time, just like ours are by the circumstances of our time. And in our time CO2 levels have been stable for a few million years before we started mucking with them by burning dinosaurs. Saying we have no effect on the environment is insanity, we've changed the Earth in myriad concrete ways you can just step outside your door and look at. I mean how many species have we wiped off the face of the planet? If we continued until there were none left besides us would we still be nothing "but a teeny weeny spec on earths existence"?

You think fossil fuels are dead dinosaurs.

🤣
 
Haley who would crush Biden, but nope.

Personally, I don't believe this is true at all. She's Mitt Romney - with less intelligence and a skirt - and I think you'd have rural voters not show up. Why? Look at her platform: aid to Ukraine. Aid to Israel. Aid to Gaza. Tax cuts for the rich. Endless illegal immigration. She's basically Biden.

I wanted DeSantis to win. I'm not sure how he f'd it all up so bad, but whatever. I'm MAGA all the way now, babay!
 
  • Love
Reactions: cat_chaser
https://www.fox5dc.com/news/free-covid-19-test-program-ends-march-8.amp

d0hHk1c.png



How are jameslee and sambo gonna know they are sick? You two better head down to the cdc protest in dc, but be safe out there.
 
Personally, I don't believe this is true at all. She's Mitt Romney - with less intelligence and a skirt - and I think you'd have rural voters not show up. Why? Look at her platform: aid to Ukraine. Aid to Israel. Aid to Gaza. Tax cuts for the rich. Endless illegal immigration. She's basically Biden.

I wanted DeSantis to win. I'm not sure how he f'd it all up so bad, but whatever. I'm MAGA all the way now, babay!
She ain't great but the country wants someone who isn't an old bastard. One guy can't speak and is largely confused and the other sounds like Alex Jones' grandfather who confused one of his ex-wife's with a woman who claimed he raped her and said the British took control of our airports during the Revolutionary War. That's our choices. Polling will remain close but with these two, opinions are already baked in. Millions of previous Trump voters aren't switching and neither are millions of Biden voters. The electoral map and race to 270 likely looks similar to 2020 this year which means another Biden victory. Of course maybe I'm wrong and society says "we were wrong to go against Trump" and he wins. I just don't see it though. R's had an opportunity but MAGA is firmly dug in. MAGA found out in 2020 they weren't a majority and what happened? They cooked up the stolen election story instead of moving away from Trump.

This thread will be kicking it's own ass in Nov. wondering why their party stuck with a guy who couldn't beat Joe Biden the first time.
 
  • Haha
Reactions: DrH. Lecter
She ain't great but the country wants someone who isn't an old bastard. One guy can't speak and is largely confused and the other sounds like Alex Jones' grandfather who confused one of his ex-wife's with a woman who claimed he raped her and said the British took control of our airports during the Revolutionary War. That's our choices. Polling will remain close but with these two, opinions are already baked in. Millions of previous Trump voters aren't switching and neither are millions of Biden voters. The electoral map and race to 270 likely looks similar to 2020 this year which means another Biden victory. Of course maybe I'm wrong and society says "we were wrong to go against Trump" and he wins. I just don't see it though. R's had an opportunity but MAGA is firmly dug in. MAGA found out in 2020 they weren't a majority and what happened? They cooked up the stolen election story instead of moving away from Trump.

This thread will be kicking it's own ass in Nov. wondering why their party stuck with a guy who couldn't beat Joe Biden the first time.
Was all that before or after Obama said he visited all 57 states?
 
A large portion of MAGA just wants to be entertained. Maybe they don't realize a portion of the party they're apart of but also hates won't vote for Trump in Nov. Several regulars here have already admitted previously that Trump can't win the general; that he's toxic and women largely can't stand him. But...they can't leave ole Don so here we are. To win you need several groups behind you, not a swath of angry middle aged men. IMO chances are high I'll be here in Nov. saying the choice was right there, it could've been Haley who would crush Biden, but nope. Maybe at some point this thread will understand you're in the minority if you think the election was stolen and only Trump can save not only the country but the world.
Well I "admitted previously" that he can win. Can one have admitted subsequently? English hard
 
Personally, I don't believe this is true at all. She's Mitt Romney - with less intelligence and a skirt - and I think you'd have rural voters not show up. Why? Look at her platform: aid to Ukraine. Aid to Israel. Aid to Gaza. Tax cuts for the rich. Endless illegal immigration. She's basically Biden.

I wanted DeSantis to win. I'm not sure how he f'd it all up so bad, but whatever. I'm MAGA all the way now, babay!
Trump and DeSantis were competing for the same voters. Haley pitches to a different demographic. Exactly as you point out the defense and business communities. Traditional Republican coalition members who have been pushed out in the Trump era. You don't see many in this thread because it's a den of snakes for them but there's a real faction of the Republican party that is pissed at Trump for taking the reins away from them. The question is whether those voters hold their noses and go Trump for the general or stay home/vote Biden. Haley voters will likely determine this election, as you yourself acknowledged earlier with the "trolling" comment, and Trump doesn't have the best track record of being conciliatory.
 
  • Like
Reactions: sambowieshin
I figured that was yet more sensationalism.



You do but lethal force is restricted to you or your family in danger. Not allowed for property only
How is a stranger on your property, especially a criminal illegal alien from who knows where and/or from who knows which foreign prison, with who knows what sort of criminal background, not a danger or threat to your family?
 
My biggest fear is that overturning Roe is going to carry the election for the dems. I don't agree with abortion, but it's not an issue I care about. I'd be willing to give the left that issue all day to get the GOP in. Navigating this will be tricky.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 55wildcat and blubo
At the end of the day it doesnt really matter who he picks as VP because Trump will be Trump regardless. However my guess is it will be either Ben Carson or Kristi Noem. I think Vivek has a good shot at it too.
I like any of those, but I don’t think Ben Carson moves the needle in terms of name recognition and appeal as much as the others. Vivek is out there front and center making daily posts and stumping for Trump. I can’t recall the last comment on anything I’ve heard from Carson. I’d be ecstatic if the fence was mended with Desantis and he was named. But I doubt that happens. Though it would cement him as the 2028 favorite.

All this is assuming we even have an election.
 
Nightwish said: The electoral map and race to 270 likely looks similar to 2020 this year which means another Biden victory.


Hmmm... I don't actually agree. But I'd very much like to see your state by state analysis of Nevada, Arizona, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Georgia, and Wisconsin,.
Well I suppose as long as we don't shut down voting in the only 7 states that ultimately mattered at 10 pm cause Trump is winning huge and send all republican watchers home so they can start running all their boxes of "ballots" in secret we should be fine, right?
 
Rampant Mail in ballots harvested etc.... weeks long voting....all rules changes that affected the election when we STUPIDLY played by the rules and voted on election Tuesday.
If the damn GOP would just play the same games, they would expose the farce because the damn voter participation numbers would be absolutely stupid and unprecedented.
 
My biggest fear is that overturning Roe is going to carry the election for the dems. I don't agree with abortion, but it's not an issue I care about. I'd be willing to give the left that issue all day to get the GOP in. Navigating this will be tricky.

It IS tricky. Because SCOTUS actually got it right, but it doesn't READ that way to idiots. And well, you know, most voters are idiots. And, they're too lazy to fight where their voices make the most difference; in their own states and communities. If you want abortion rights, take an active part in the election of your state legislature. Hold their feet to the GD fire. That is the entire reason for more state rights and a limited Federal government. It's damn near impossible for grass roots political movements to make a difference on the Federal level. It's much more efficient to force change at a local and state level.

Even though I agree with SCOTUS' decision, I'd gladly participate in political efforts to guarantee abortion rights in Kentucky. (and HAVE)
 
  • Like
Reactions: 55wildcat
We've been both a ball of ice and of fire. Neither of which is good for human habitation, wouldn't you agree? You're just being dumb, those conditions were caused by the circumstances of their time, just like ours are by the circumstances of our time. And in our time CO2 levels have been stable for a few million years before we started mucking with them by burning dinosaurs. Saying we have no effect on the environment is insanity, we've changed the Earth in myriad concrete ways you can just step outside your door and look at. I mean how many species have we wiped off the face of the planet? If we continued until there were none left besides us would we still be nothing "but a teeny weeny spec on earths existence"?
The fact you think we can get the planet into some sort of stabilized condition is what’s patently absurd. Those “circumstances of their time” were not human related or impacted by humans. They were happening regardless because of the forces of nature. We can’t prevent an asteroid from causing mass extinction or a volcano eruption or earthquakes, Or the Sun getting progressively hotter. Can we make rain machines? Yeah, can we pollute the hell out of things, yeah, but again it’s barely a blip. It affects you and us here today and maybe a generation or two beyond. Again teensy blips. You aren’t changing the course of human existence for millions of years to come.
 
All most likely true, but the fact that fossil fuels are a limited resource remains, so it DOES make sense to actively promote research into alternative resources. The most pracitcal, at this point, are nuclear energy plants, and then ongoing improvements in battery technology. Those two things (along with efficient solar gathering), will ultimately be the answers.

But, like I said; sooner or later it's getting blown out like a GD match. LOL

The best scenario (for my sense of humor anyway), is that mankind finally hits on the sweet spot, ie finds perfectly clean and renewable energy, and during the huge celebration, a big rock blows up the earth, just as the ribbon cutting commences. LOL
 
ADVERTISEMENT
ADVERTISEMENT