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The Right to a Speedy Trial​

If the government doesn't get a defendant to trial within a certain amount of time, the court must toss the charges.​

By Micah Schwartzbach, Attorney

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The Sixth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution and the constitutions of the individual states guarantee the right to a speedy trial. Under the federal constitution, there is no precise measurement of what is and isn't "speedy." But many states and the federal government have laws specifying the time within which prosecutors must bring defendants to trial.


Weird that you have no problem with Americans sitting in jail for over a year without a court date... Almost like you are FOS.
 
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I'm in agreement that things should be investigated if there are signs of rampant voter fraud but that just isn't the case here. I listed 3 examples of which Trump himself tweeted about voter fraud to show the continuity in how he operates.

Lose to Cruz, Fraud! Loser Popular Vote to Hillary, Fraud! Fall 2020 to January 2021, Fraud!

All Trump did, and this was actually smart but nefarious on his part, is shout "Fraud" long enough for people to start believing it. People were shouting fraud before the 2020 election simply because they see D.T. shouting it. Shouting it doesn't mean it's true but if you shout long enough then it's hard to discern fact from fiction especially if you're a follower.

If it were true you'd better believe the judges he nominated as well as the Republican powers would've investigated it. It wouldn't make any sense otherwise, I mean take GA for example, if there was actual voter fraud you'd better believe R's would've handed the state to Trump, and rightfully so. However, there wasn't so they gave it to J.B.

And you also And you also have to point out how many people complained of voter inconsistencies during the Dem primary but didn't have a problem 1 during the general.... 1 during the general....

This was more of the D establishment kicking Sanders to the curb rather than say blatant voter fraud. As for why they didn't say anything during the general election, it's because they won. On the flip side, Trump won in 2016 and still complained saying there was massive voter fraud, or else he'd have won the popular vote as well.

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In your example, you used Nevada, a state where D's have won every year since 2000. Biden won by over 34,000 votes, do you know for certain if those 14,000 votes you mention all went towards Biden? If so that still leaves another 20,000 votes, where do those come from?

Why would vote counters put up sheets over windows where they counted votes? What possible reason would someone have for preventing a legal observer from viewing the counting of an election? Honestly... Why would you stop people from watching you count a national election vote????? If Russia did that to a Ukraine election... would you be OK with the outcome?

For this point, I cannot say anything because I do not know what the normal protocols are as it relates to these issues you mention. Do you have any articles on this? Multiple if you got em.

The only thing I could logically think of would be to hide your vote from other voters. We know how tribal it's been over the past 5 years or so and I'd imagine keeping one's vote secret is better than the alternative. People like to keep their politics out of their daily lives.


In closing, I know none of this will change peoples' minds but it's worth a shot. I just want people to be open-minded rather than have their heads in the sand. You're definitely the former, plus there's a sense of rationality coming from your end. The logic and reasoning behind why things should be investigated in Nevada are sound but when you look at the bigger picture, the stuff I detailed going back to 2016, the argument for fraud falls apart.**

**you better believe if there was fraud I'd want it investigated and the criminals held to account but that doesn't appear to be the case.

😂 12 paragraphs of denial!! You are the guy that everyone should listen to!
 
I'm in agreement that things should be investigated if there are signs of rampant voter fraud but that just isn't the case here. I listed 3 examples of which Trump himself tweeted about voter fraud to show the continuity in how he operates.

Lose to Cruz, Fraud! Loser Popular Vote to Hillary, Fraud! Fall 2020 to January 2021, Fraud!

All Trump did, and this was actually smart but nefarious on his part, is shout "Fraud" long enough for people to start believing it. People were shouting fraud before the 2020 election simply because they see D.T. shouting it. Shouting it doesn't mean it's true but if you shout long enough then it's hard to discern fact from fiction especially if you're a follower.

If it were true you'd better believe the judges he nominated as well as the Republican powers would've investigated it. It wouldn't make any sense otherwise, I mean take GA for example, if there was actual voter fraud you'd better believe R's would've handed the state to Trump, and rightfully so. However, there wasn't so they gave it to J.B.

And you also And you also have to point out how many people complained of voter inconsistencies during the Dem primary but didn't have a problem 1 during the general.... 1 during the general....

This was more of the D establishment kicking Sanders to the curb rather than say blatant voter fraud. As for why they didn't say anything during the general election, it's because they won. On the flip side, Trump won in 2016 and still complained saying there was massive voter fraud, or else he'd have won the popular vote as well.

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In your example, you used Nevada, a state where D's have won every year since 2000. Biden won by over 34,000 votes, do you know for certain if those 14,000 votes you mention all went towards Biden? If so that still leaves another 20,000 votes, where do those come from?

Why would vote counters put up sheets over windows where they counted votes? What possible reason would someone have for preventing a legal observer from viewing the counting of an election? Honestly... Why would you stop people from watching you count a national election vote????? If Russia did that to a Ukraine election... would you be OK with the outcome?

For this point, I cannot say anything because I do not know what the normal protocols are as it relates to these issues you mention. Do you have any articles on this? Multiple if you got em.

The only thing I could logically think of would be to hide your vote from other voters. We know how tribal it's been over the past 5 years or so and I'd imagine keeping one's vote secret is better than the alternative. People like to keep their politics out of their daily lives.


In closing, I know none of this will change peoples' minds but it's worth a shot. I just want people to be open-minded rather than have their heads in the sand. You're definitely the former, plus there's a sense of rationality coming from your end. The logic and reasoning behind why things should be investigated in Nevada are sound but when you look at the bigger picture, the stuff I detailed going back to 2016, the argument for fraud falls apart.**

**you better believe if there was fraud I'd want it investigated and the criminals held to account but that doesn't appear to be the case.
So people voting from fictious addresses in Nev and Mich are OK because we just can't be bothered to look at it? OK. I just want you to know that if Trump wins we will investigate you and you will be guilty unless you can prove you are innocent. That is how it works. It will be totally legal though. The president and his DOJ will agree that you are guilty sooo....
 
So people voting from fictious addresses in Nev and Mich are OK because we just can't be bothered to look at it? OK. I just want you to know that if Trump wins we will investigate you and you will be guilty unless you can prove you are innocent. That is how it works. It will be totally legal though. The president and his DOJ will agree that you are guilty sooo....
Remember, Arrizuzzacat slightly is left. Just slightly, tilts to the left. Kind of a lesser version of the tower of Pisa but not as much tilt. Kind of like putting a bit more pressure on his left foot to avoid an ant on the sidewalk. No big deal for that close to the center thinking guy
 
So people voting from fictious addresses in Nev and Mich are OK because we just can't be bothered to look at it? OK. I just want you to know that if Trump wins we will investigate you and you will be guilty unless you can prove you are innocent. That is how it works. It will be totally legal though. The president and his DOJ will agree that you are guilty sooo....
I'm not saying they're OK, I'm saying the fraud that is being purported isn't at the level that Trump wants people to believe. He's been shouting fraud for 6 years now and if you can't see that then I don't know what to tell you.

Like I said in the uber-long post, a number of instances of fraud do not result in a complete recount or audit of an election. It never has. We're talking about millions of votes and the fraud in question just happens to be the number of votes Trump lost in contested states, see GA.

For your second point, I have no idea where that's coming from, the R's had power and could've flipped the election if they wanted to and if there was fraud they would've.

If you're saying because they didn't then Trump in 2024 can say people are guilty until proven innocent and everyone should be fine with that because they were fine in 2020 then that's a messed up way of thinking.

I know you're being facetious but it's not funny joking around about something fascists would do.
 
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😂 12 paragraphs of denial!! You are the guy that everyone should listen to!
That's you looking in the mirror chief. There's no denial from my end. In both long posts, I've made I used mostly conservative sources to explain my reasoning. If I wanted to be uber biased like people of your ilk are I would.

You just come across as a troll or someone so down the rabbit hole that you call conservatives on this board lefties (looking at @vhcat70 ) If you wanted to have a discussion type away but I don't see that happening.
 
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I'm not saying they're OK, I'm saying the fraud that is being purported isn't at the level that Trump wants people to believe. He's been shouting fraud for 6 years now and if you can't see that then I don't know what to tell you.

Like I said in the uber-long post, a number of instances of fraud do not result in a complete recount or audit of an election. It never has. We're talking about millions of votes and the fraud in question just happens to be the number of votes Trump lost in contested states, see GA.

For your second point, I have no idea where that's coming from, the R's had power and could've flipped the election if they wanted to and if there was fraud they would've.

If you're saying because they didn't then Trump in 2024 can say people are guilty until proven innocent and everyone should be fine with that because they were fine in 2020 then that's a messed up way of thinking.

I know you're being facetious but it's not funny joking around about something fascists would do.
lmao you just got 30 liberal internet points for calling people fascist!!!

Please post more words! You mean business!





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That's you looking in the mirror chief. There's no denial from my end. In both long posts, I've made I used mostly conservative sources to explain my reasoning. If I wanted to be uber biased like people of your ilk are I would.

You just come across as a troll or someone so down the rabbit hole that you call conservatives on this board lefties (looking at @vhcat70 ) If you wanted to have a discussion type away but I don't see that happening.

Lmao! You sound sane!
 
Awww you got your fweelings hurt? Yea lets destroy the country because you got your little fweelings hurt.

You disgust me, you pathetic pos.
It's a Political Discussion Board. No need to rage over a difference of opinion about Trump.
Just because my "Trump riding a velociraptor" flag is at half mast is no reason to hurl insults.
 
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LMAO 🤣 take off your white hood
Has zero to do with race. Just sick of dumb ass politicians shooting off AR 15s at watermelons, faux opponents or anything else.
I'm old enough to remember when politicians used to actually discuss ideas instead of use fear and anger to motivate the mindless among us.
 
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It's a Political Discussion Board. No need to rage over a difference of opinion about Trump.
Just because my "Trump riding a velociraptor" flag is at half mast is no reason to hurl insults.
You miss it entirely. Not surprised. My anger at you and your types has very little to do w cheetoh (fact ... i get along just fine w vhcat even though trump lives in his head - you know that is true too). IDC about one person, except Jesus. (Now idiots will attack me ... gee youre not acting like Jesus. I say ... no shit sherlock. I am not Him and that is exactly why i need Him.)

What i have had enough of is ppl like you actively destroying this country. And it blows me away that you cannot or will not see what your actions lead to. There are SO MANY examples throughout history.

What are all the POLICIES that you didnt like about trumpie? (I can name several ... but i cannot name one thing i LIKE about china joes policies.) All you go back to is "muh fweelings!" Pathetic.

Have you started learning chinese? Are you going to rat us out?
 
Some of us recognized the fix was in on nov 4th. It did not take months or even minutes of cheeto saying it b4 we saw it. But 100 paragraphs of denying and then denying the denial. (Insert charlie brown teacher...)
The most telling thing of all is all the statistical “outliers” Biden overcame to win from his basement. Bellwether counties, how few counties he actually won overall while still getting the most votes in history, losing Ohio and Florida. Just from looking at these things it was obvious the election stunk of fraud. I’m not gonna defend Trump on the Cruz thing. I don’t remember the details and I will readily admit Trump is a bad loser. But the 2020 presidential election was a joke.
 
You miss it entirely. Not surprised. My anger at you and your types has very little to do w cheetoh (fact ... i get along just fine w vhcat even though trump lives in his head - you know that is true too). IDC about one person, except Jesus. (Now idiots will attack me ... gee youre not acting like Jesus. I say ... no shit sherlock. I am not Him and that is exactly why i need Him.)

What i have had enough of is ppl like you actively destroying this country. And it blows me away that you cannot or will not see what your actions lead to. There are SO MANY examples throughout history.

What are all the POLICIES that you didnt like about trumpie? (I can name several ... but i cannot name one thing i LIKE about china joes policies.) All you go back to is "muh fweelings!" Pathetic.

Have you started learning chinese? Are you going to rat us out?
I've done nothing in my entire life to damage this country.
I've never taken a dime of welfare.
Paid all my taxes on time.
Raised a family and kids that are now fully employed and asking nothing of their government.
Support my police and military.
Never been arrested.
I'm a model US citizen that just so happens to see Trump as much more of a danger to our democracy than you. It has zero to do with previous policies and everything to do with Jan 6.
 
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I'm not saying they're OK, I'm saying the fraud that is being purported isn't at the level that Trump wants people to believe. He's been shouting fraud for 6 years now and if you can't see that then I don't know what to tell you.

Like I said in the uber-long post, a number of instances of fraud do not result in a complete recount or audit of an election. It never has. We're talking about millions of votes and the fraud in question just happens to be the number of votes Trump lost in contested states, see GA.

For your second point, I have no idea where that's coming from, the R's had power and could've flipped the election if they wanted to and if there was fraud they would've.

If you're saying because they didn't then Trump in 2024 can say people are guilty until proven innocent and everyone should be fine with that because they were fine in 2020 then that's a messed up way of thinking.

I know you're being facetious but it's not funny joking around about something fascists would do.
So if I rape the dog shit out of you but I get 3 people to say I didn't then you can't take me to court.... ? Is that your thinking? After all... one random act isn't a sign of illegal activity.

You actually said "if fraud occurred.... pubs of cheated too so it didn't happen or they probably cheated"... LOL...


Do you honestly not see the leaps you have to make to justify not even looking into this ? Holy hell. LOL.

And you clearly don't get humor on my last point.
 

The Right to a Speedy Trial​

If the government doesn't get a defendant to trial within a certain amount of time, the court must toss the charges.​

By Micah Schwartzbach, Attorney

Defend your rights. We've helped 95 clients find attorneys today.​

Please answer a few questions to help us match you with attorneys in your area.
Do you have current criminal charges?
--Select an answer-- Yes No


The Sixth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution and the constitutions of the individual states guarantee the right to a speedy trial. Under the federal constitution, there is no precise measurement of what is and isn't "speedy." But many states and the federal government have laws specifying the time within which prosecutors must bring defendants to trial.


Weird that you have no problem with Americans sitting in jail for over a year without a court date... Almost like you are FOS.
Off topic, but this should be the f'ing process for these mass shooters. Take that c-sucker in CO who shot up the movie theatre. He was caught gun in hand. His court date should have been a week later and the hanging should have occured the morning after that. Libs always say the death sentence isn't a deterrent. Yeah - that's cause it usually happens about 30 years after the crime.

Prosecution: "Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, the defendant murdered 15 people and we have another 45 who saw him do it. Plus the cops caught him in the parking lot with a gun. I rest my case."

Defense: "Uh, our boy admits doing it but he's crazy"

A judge from a rational legal system: "Who cares if he's crazy?"

Jury: "Guilty, punishment death"

Hangman: "Sayonara, bitch"

Defendant's Neck: "Snap"
 
Has zero to do with race. Just sick of dumb ass politicians shooting off AR 15s at watermelons, faux opponents or anything else.
I'm old enough to remember when politicians used to actually discuss ideas instead of use fear and anger to motivate the mindless among us.
You mean like when they light themselves on fire bc they don't want to legislate and do their job and blame, say, the Court? Yes...that seemed to motivate the mindless on here
 
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Off topic, but this should be the f'ing process for these mass shooters. Take that c-sucker in CO who shot up the movie theatre. He was caught gun in hand. His court date should have been a week later and the hanging should have occured the morning after that. Libs always say the death sentence isn't a deterrent. Yeah - that's cause it usually happens about 30 years after the crime.
agreed. It makes you wonder why the J6 guys are still in jail over a year later without a trial. Over 10000 hours of video to look at.... You'd thing they kinda know what happened and can just lay out their case....
 
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Remember yesterday or say before when I posted that inflation was about to get much worse because there will have to stimulus and bailouts to put short term bandaids on long term ills?
I've read the last two days that inventory of all kinds of stuff is piling up such that it could stop price rises. Some Amazon items don't even want to get your returns back. Dollar index is rising like mad such that imports about to get cheaper. Paid $4.49 for gas today vs. $4.99 a month ago.

Guess we'll see.
 
I've done nothing in my entire life to damage this country.
I've never taken a dime of welfare.
Paid all my taxes on time.
Raised a family and kids that are now fully employed and asking nothing of their government.
Support my police and military.
Never been arrested.
I'm a model US citizen that just so happens to see Trump as much more of a danger to our democracy than you. It has zero to do with previous policies and everything to do with Jan 6.
So you cant name one dam policy. Game, set, match.

Newsflash champ, if you support this admin AND their policies and rhetoric ... then you do not support the miltary and likely not the police. The only thing trump is a danger to is the uniparty. And you support the uniparty. Pathetic.
 
I've read the last two days that inventory of all kinds of stuff is piling up such that it could stop price rises. Some Amazon items don't even want to get your returns back. Dollar index is rising like mad such that imports about to get cheaper. Paid $4.49 for gas today vs. $4.99 a month ago.

Guess we'll see.

I'm thinking we see a price stability or drops on lots of cheap manufactured stuff, like tvs, and even cars once the chips and supply stuff gets a bit more sorted.

However, I think food and energy are going to rise exponentially, basically.
 
I've read the last two days that inventory of all kinds of stuff is piling up such that it could stop price rises. Some Amazon items don't even want to get your returns back. Dollar index is rising like mad such that imports about to get cheaper. Paid $4.49 for gas today vs. $4.99 a month ago.

Guess we'll see.

This is a years old practice for Amazon. However yes.... we're entering the hangover phase of inflation. Milton Friedman used an analogy of getting drunk. The stimulus or alcohol is the fun part. Everyone is riding high and feeling great.

Then comes the hangover. In inflation timeline, that's when consumers realize things are headed down hill. Now spending will decrease because they're holding on to money. That means all these merchants who just restocked their goods paying much higher prices. So they'll be stuck with those and start to sink.

Next up there will be massive liquidations and bankruptcies, or there will be more bailouts or stimulus to stimulate more spending. That will make the eventual crash all that much worse. They'll do it though because it's an embattled president and party and they can't afford the economy crashing on their watch
 
So if I rape the dog shit out of you but I get 3 people to say I didn't then you can't take me to court.... ? Is that your thinking? After all... one random act isn't a sign of illegal activity.

You actually said "if fraud occurred.... pubs of cheated too so it didn't happen or they probably cheated"... LOL...


Do you honestly not see the leaps you have to make to justify not even looking into this ? Holy hell. LOL.

And you clearly don't get humor on my last point.
I got your humor, look up the word facetious.

So if I rape the dog shit out of you but I get 3 people to say I didn't then you can't take me to court.... ? Is that your thinking? After all... one random act isn't a sign of illegal activity.

Jesus man, those are two different things.

If one committed rape they should be prosecuted.

If you committed voter fraud in your local election then you should be prosecuted but the election itself would go on. They wouldn't do a complete recount because of your act of voter fraud.

When you have millions of votes, 150m overall, you're talking about rounding errors even if we're talking about 20k votes.

You mention Nevada a state where Biden won by more than the number of votes you said were fraudulent and then I asked what would make up the missing votes. You didn't answer, you're starting to sound more conspiratorial rather than rational.

You keep replying and I keep asking for sources to read but you don't share them


You actually said "if fraud occurred.... pubs of cheated too so it didn't happen or they probably cheated"... LOL...


Reread what I said because I didn't say that.

"If it were true you'd better believe the judges he nominated as well as the Republican powers would've investigated it. It wouldn't make any sense otherwise, I mean take GA for example, if there was actual voter fraud you'd better believe R's would've handed the state to Trump, and rightfully so. However, there wasn't so they gave it to J.B"

And

"For your second point, I have no idea where that's coming from, the R's had power and could've flipped the election if they wanted to and if there was fraud they would've."

In both quotes I said if there was indeed fraud then R's could've flipped the election and rightfully so.

I did not say Republicans cheated.

You need to read slower and not let your preconceived notions and biases affect your judgement.

You did the same thing awhile ago when I was talking about racism and only once you reread what I wrote you backtracked.

So read again.
 
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