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How will they rule ??!

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    Votes: 41 82.0%
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    Votes: 9 18.0%

  • Total voters
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thats the whole point of why the oil market is bullshit. When oil futures go up republicans do their song and dance and oil companies use it as cover to immediately jack up gas prices overnight. When oil futures go down republicans are completely quiet and gas prices take months to move back down. Republicans should be on TV right now cheering the oil falling and telling oil companies to quit gouging for their greedy shareholders. But they can't do that because it would help Biden and party is more important than country in Team politics.
 
@AustinTXCat

Your Braves are murdering the Cards, out scored so far like 16-4...one game left in the 4 game series to salvage a win.
I watched tonight's game on ESPN entirely. Braves won 3-0 and are 19-3 vs Cards since 2019.

Dodgers and Mets are Braves major rivals right now for NL Pennant.
 
So you cant name one dam policy. Game, set, match.

Newsflash champ, if you support this admin AND their policies and rhetoric ... then you do not support the miltary and likely not the police. The only thing trump is a danger to is the uniparty. And you support the uniparty. Pathetic.

I don't understand the whole military argument you're conveying.

46 admin actually increased the military budget compared to Trump. Up to 715b for the DoD compared to 633b in 2020 and 636b in 2021

For context just 40b a year would be enough to give every American child 10k at birth which would be around 30-40k by the time they turned 18.**

**10k lump sum invested in an index fund for 18 - 20 years.

Military spending should be cut hard with the money saved going towards helping our citizens rather than build weapons and play "peacekeeper".


As for 45 policies I disagree with

Tariffs - Inflationary, passes the cost of a good to the consumer which is us.

Begging FOMC to lower rates when they should be raised back in 2018-2019.

This is bad because the president shouldn't be talking to the FED nor should they have listened to his demands to lower rates when the market had been booming for a decade. Raising rates curbs inflation, lowering gives it fuel.

Permanent tax cuts for the wealthy while middle and lower class cuts were temporary.

Deficit spending, Trump spent 779b in FY 2018 and 984b in FY2019

FY starts October so 2017 spending would be under 44.

Conpare that to 44s spending by FY

2013 680b
2014 485b
2015 442b
2016 585b
2017 665b

2010 to 2012 and 2020 to 2021 are not counted because of the bailouts and stimulus payments.

Covid battle plan at least in the early stages, golfing and tweeting. Imaging if Obama or Biden did this, y'all would go nuts.

As for Biden, he's the best thing to happen to conservatives in ages. Y'all will sweep in November and have power for at least a decade to come.
 
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Rip guidestones :(
 
I've read the last two days that inventory of all kinds of stuff is piling up such that it could stop price rises. Some Amazon items don't even want to get your returns back. Dollar index is rising like mad such that imports about to get cheaper. Paid $4.49 for gas today vs. $4.99 a month ago.

Guess we'll see.
Are you saying we are going to see price decrease? I would very much like to get a bet on that.


Demand decrease only drops prices for a bit. You still need product. Nobody is producing anything at pre pandemic levels... nobody.
 
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"Today is one of those days when you leave work before 7 AM and don't get back until past midnight"... lol.. that spoiled coont left work at 5 to party.
😂

She literally just had snacks, played on her phone, did a brief online certification, & then went to bars and house parties.

$50K a year to this twit that just graduated. I’m sure her parents are super wealthy and pay all of her bills and she will be the first to post on LinkedIn about female empowerment and being a strong business woman.
 
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She literally just had snacks, played on her phone, did a brief online certification, & then went to bars and house parties.

$50K a year to this twit that just graduated. I’m sure her parents are super wealthy and pay all of her bills and she will be the first to post on LinkedIn about female empowerment and being a strong business woman.
I went to her linkedin page. Of course it starts out with a she/her/hers.
 
I'm not saying they're OK, I'm saying the fraud that is being purported isn't at the level that Trump wants people to believe. He's been shouting fraud for 6 years now and if you can't see that then I don't know what to tell you.

Like I said in the uber-long post, a number of instances of fraud do not result in a complete recount or audit of an election. It never has. We're talking about millions of votes and the fraud in question just happens to be the number of votes Trump lost in contested states, see GA.

For your second point, I have no idea where that's coming from, the R's had power and could've flipped the election if they wanted to and if there was fraud they would've.

If you're saying because they didn't then Trump in 2024 can say people are guilty until proven innocent and everyone should be fine with that because they were fine in 2020 then that's a messed up way of thinking.

I know you're being facetious but it's not funny joking around about something fascists would do.
so why did they "stop" counting on election night at 10pm? in the well known swing states when Trump was winning by a large margin and 94% reported in the 3 eastern time zone states? an unprecedented measure never before seen in modern elections in our country. just stopped counting and told you to go to bed. said the count wouldn't resume until the morning yet everyone started counting without proper representation at 1am and Trump lost a 2 million vote lead in 6 states between 1am and 6am, when they said they weren't gong to be counting? can you explain this? can anyone to this day explain this?

can you explain how nearly every single 18 yr old and over 90 yr old in the cities in Wisconsin managed to vote in this election. a state that had never seen over 65% voter participation all of sudden saw over 94% in urban districts. meaning every single person from every nursing home to every kid just turning 18 voted in those districts. another unprecedented outcome. can you explain the math, the data that had never before been seen before this election?
 
Turning away from nuclear is a clear sign that climate extremists do not believe that there is an imminent threat. If they did, the “risks” of nuclear would not be put aside for the slow roll of “renewables.” They seem determined to kill farming, but won’t invest in nuclear or hydrogen or even low emissions natural gas. It’s a freak show. And, we knew this from the beginning when they attempted to scare people into economic redistribution plans as a guise for a climate plan. The alarmists of the 90s had us doomed by now. But the time frame has conveniently shifted and we remain triggered and fearful, while disposed to manipulation.
 
I watched some of the video, namely what you said to watch.

A breakdown of your quote

They go to addresses of absentee voters. That is proof of fraud.

Let's say this is true

The question is if it's enough to make a difference.

If there are instances of fraud then you're right in asking if these occurrences are enough to make a difference.

The problem is they claim there is no proof so they won't look.

The issue with this is there are can be instances of fraud but said fraud does not constitute as proof of a larger conspiracy. So when they say there is no proof they're not saying there were zero instances of fraud, they're saying it's not at such a scale that warrants a recount.

I.e. If you committed fraud in your local election the committee wouldn't do a total recount of the whole election as it wouldn't make any sense unless there were a sizable number of fraudulent ballots.


Below is a thorough breakdown of instances of voting fraud.

Now, back away from thinking about 2020 and look at the numbers below as if it's 2014 or 2106.

For example, in a study back in 2014 there were only 31 instances of fraud from 2000-2014

https://www.brennancenter.org/sites.../Briefing_Memo_Debunking_Voter_Fraud_Myth.pdf


If you've gotten this far, good on you.

From reading the many examples above we can see voter fraud does not happen at the level it's purported by Trump or some RW media.

Taking this into account you'd ask yourself what then happened in 2020?

How did Biden win but Dem's didn't conquer the House or Senate races? This alone gives reason to think the election conspiracy is just that, a conspiracy.

This leads me to an answer below:

The simplest answer is typically the right one and that's Trump likely made it up b/c he was raised to hate losing. He was raised to view that anything below "winning" meant you're a loser.**

**it's fine to dislike losing but it's unhealthy to do it in the manner D.T. does. The whole "If you ain't first, you're last" is comedic but there are people in real life who view everything as winning and losing.

So when he lost to Ted Cruz in the Iowa Caucus you had this






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Prior to the 2016 election, you had this

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After winning in 2016 but losing the popular vote he tweeted this


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You have 3 different periods, early 2016, election 2016, and 2020 all of which Trump spouts voter fraud.



Searching his Twitter archive you can see 607 instances of him tweeting about Fraud most of which lead up to the 2020 election.


So there's either massive voter fraud and D.T. is correct or he just shouts fraud with most of those shouts happening even before the event itself.

I.E. he's covering his bases. If he wins, there's still fraud b/c he didn't win by more BUT if he loses there's such a wide-scale fraud that's the end of democracy.

If there was fraud in 2016 he had an entire 4 years to make sure it didn't happen again. He would've been looked at as being a savior of democracy for "cracking the case" on voter fraud in the race against Cruz and subsequently Hillary.

In reality, there's no massive fraud and for a thought experiment, you should picture Biden tweeting all of this rather than Trump. What would your opinion be then?

Mine would still be that the person making those tweets is a whiny person who cannot stand losing, not because it's bad (it's not) but because his dad told him it was.

@Bill Derington wanted to tag you so you could see Trump's Tweets

@Lost In FL @warrior-cat adding ya'll because I've had convos with the two of you in the past, respect the both of ya'll but I just sit towards the left.


Those that are tagged and those that are not I want you to look at those tweets.


I want you to go through these as well as just navigate through the above archive of tweets just to see what kind of person D.T. is. Look at his 2017 to 2020 tweets and tell me if those were made by Obama or Biden if ya'll would think it's no big deal. If you end up coming to a conclusion that it would be a big deal if those two made any of those tweets then ya'll are in a land of hypocrisy.

Don't turn this into whataboutism either, the issue at hand is voter fraud not the crap that Biden is doing now or what Obama did in 2009-2016.
Get back to me when this comes out in hard copy. ;)
 
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so why did they "stop" counting on election night at 10pm? in the well known swing states when Trump was winning by a large margin and 94% reported in the 3 eastern time zone states? an unprecedented measure never before seen in modern elections in our country. just stopped counting and told you to go to bed. said the count wouldn't resume until the morning yet everyone started counting without proper representation at 1am and Trump lost a 2 million vote lead in 6 states between 1am and 6am, when they said they weren't gong to be counting? can you explain this? can anyone to this day explain this?

can you explain how nearly every single 18 yr old and over 90 yr old in the cities in Wisconsin managed to vote in this election. a state that had never seen over 65% voter participation all of sudden saw over 94% in urban districts. meaning every single person from every nursing home to every kid just turning 18 voted in those districts. another unprecedented outcome. can you explain the math, the data that had never before been seen before this election?

 
Are you saying we are going to see price decrease? I would very much like to get a bet on that.


Demand decrease only drops prices for a bit. You still need product. Nobody is producing anything at pre pandemic levels... nobody.49
And throw in the skyrocketing payroll costs to a business, when your minimum wage has gone from $8-9 an hour to $15, 16, 20.
 
I don't understand the whole military argument you're conveying.

46 admin actually increased the military budget compared to Trump. Up to 715b for the DoD compared to 633b in 2020 and 636b in 2021

For context just 40b a year would be enough to give every American child 10k at birth which would be around 30-40k by the time they turned 18.**

**10k lump sum invested in an index fund for 18 - 20 years.

Military spending should be cut hard with the money saved going towards helping our citizens rather than build weapons and play "peacekeeper".


As for 45 policies I disagree with

Tariffs - Inflationary, passes the cost of a good to the consumer which is us.

Begging FOMC to lower rates when they should be raised back in 2018-2019.

This is bad because the president shouldn't be talking to the FED nor should they have listened to his demands to lower rates when the market had been booming for a decade. Raising rates curbs inflation, lowering gives it fuel.

Permanent tax cuts for the wealthy while middle and lower class cuts were temporary.

Deficit spending, Trump spent 779b in FY 2018 and 984b in FY2019

FY starts October so 2017 spending would be under 44.

Conpare that to 44s spending by FY

2013 680b
2014 485b
2015 442b
2016 585b
2017 665b

2010 to 2012 and 2020 to 2021 are not counted because of the bailouts and stimulus payments.

Covid battle plan at least in the early stages, golfing and tweeting. Imaging if Obama or Biden did this, y'all would go nuts.

As for Biden, he's the best thing to happen to conservatives in ages. Y'all will sweep in November and have power for at least a decade to come.
Are you a vegetarian? Or just buffet at word salad?

What you know of the military is "throw money at it". Well, to the people that live it day to day this admin has demoralized the military to almost non existence, which is part of the plan. Afghanistan ... wtf. Border ... wtf. Forcing ppl to sit through indoctrination sessions about how unfair things are. Trannies. No reason mentally instable (fact) ppl should be in the military. Not a good place for mentally unstable ppl. The whole covid experiment disaster. Wow, could not have implemented that any worse. Then programs get cut by critical millions while we gift 40B (so far) to ukraine to fight joe's war. We gift 80B in tech and guns to afghans. Overall, why do you think recruitment is so low? That is just off the top of my head. They have also created an enemies list within the dod. But youre right ... fix it with money. Did you know Beau died in the military? Am surprised this clown hasnt given him a MOH already.

Then, your "objective" analysis is pure clown world. Tax cut analysis ... straight from the view. To have any significant income tax cut, you have to cut the taxes of thos who pay taxes. That understanding is beyond your bias.

I understand 45s tweeting, and didnt like 95% of them. He played less golf than King Barak.
 
I too wish conservatives in this country had the moral and ethical fortitude to stand up to an unethical leader like the British conservatives did. Maybe we could get a decent president instead of being forced to hold our nose and vote D.
Show us how it is done and stand up to the current unethical and morally bankrupt administration.
 
I too wish conservatives in this country had the moral and ethical fortitude to stand up to an unethical leader like the British conservatives did. Maybe we could get a decent president instead of being forced to hold our nose and vote D.
I suspect you'd have to hold your nose if you were anywhere near biden, after all, his butt probably needs wiping again.
 
So ... the laptop is REAL. That is the takeaway here. (We knew that in 2020.)

To everyone else ... 1) are you good with corporations deciding who is in ofc? If it went the other way would you still be ok w it? 2) if half of the allegations are true, then why in the hell has hunter not been arrested and joe as well????

Bc you lefties will not stand for morality, truth and justice, you are actively destroying this country. Rip your blinders off and stop being groomers.
 
I too wish conservatives in this country had the moral and ethical fortitude to stand up to an unethical leader like the British conservatives did. Maybe we could get a decent president instead of being forced to hold our nose and vote D.
Do you think we are just going to let Biden get away with this? We don’t have a parliamentary system, so we will await the elections to see this unethical mess disposed of.
 
The most telling thing of all is all the statistical “outliers” Biden overcame to win from his basement. Bellwether counties, how few counties he actually won overall while still getting the most votes in history, losing Ohio and Florida. Just from looking at these things it was obvious the election stunk of fraud. I’m not gonna defend Trump on the Cruz thing. I don’t remember the details and I will readily admit Trump is a bad loser. But the 2020 presidential election was a joke.

Voting machines connected to the internet using proprietary software only the manufacturer has access to, little/no signature checks on mail-in ballots, and the exceedingly ignorant arguments coming from the left about the election are proof-positive when you have all those other statistical anomalies.

If you have a voting system that is not verifiable, and the stakes are high, you can guarantee that cheating happened. That's just how humans are. And you didn't need but some 40k votes in the right states to swing the election, but surely there where millions of illegal ballots.

There's no way the election was on the up and up. Unfortunately, there's no way (yet) to demonstrate the steal definitively since there's no way to verify system integrity.
 


 
I don't understand the whole military argument you're conveying.

46 admin actually increased the military budget compared to Trump. Up to 715b for the DoD compared to 633b in 2020 and 636b in 2021

For context just 40b a year would be enough to give every American child 10k at birth which would be around 30-40k by the time they turned 18.**

**10k lump sum invested in an index fund for 18 - 20 years.

Military spending should be cut hard with the money saved going towards helping our citizens rather than build weapons and play "peacekeeper".


As for 45 policies I disagree with

Tariffs - Inflationary, passes the cost of a good to the consumer which is us.

Begging FOMC to lower rates when they should be raised back in 2018-2019.

This is bad because the president shouldn't be talking to the FED nor should they have listened to his demands to lower rates when the market had been booming for a decade. Raising rates curbs inflation, lowering gives it fuel.

Permanent tax cuts for the wealthy while middle and lower class cuts were temporary.

Deficit spending, Trump spent 779b in FY 2018 and 984b in FY2019

FY starts October so 2017 spending would be under 44.

Conpare that to 44s spending by FY

2013 680b
2014 485b
2015 442b
2016 585b
2017 665b

2010 to 2012 and 2020 to 2021 are not counted because of the bailouts and stimulus payments.

Covid battle plan at least in the early stages, golfing and tweeting. Imaging if Obama or Biden did this, y'all would go nuts.

As for Biden, he's the best thing to happen to conservatives in ages. Y'all will sweep in November and have power for at least a decade to come.

Increase in defense spending is probably mostly due to inflation. Either way that spending could and should be lowered.

On inflation - raising interest only temporarily slows down inflation. The currency and market then gets adjusted and inflation continues upward.

The only true way to stop inflation is to stop the printing presses to control the volume of currency. It's that simple. Unfortunately it's tough to live with those consequences because it will almost surely result in a recession/contraction (or in our case a depression) and increased taxes and unemployment.

However the alternative is to keep the presses running full speed....which gives us all those problems but much worse. The printing of money absolutely must slow down or the currency itself will just fold. Maybe that's what they want? That's much more likely than the notion that a massive amount of shrewd politicians are just all making the same simultaneous error.
 
This whole mandate has nothing to do with health and everthing to do with control. "We have to inject it to see what happens." The person that said that AND the entire panel that "approved" it should be drawn and quartered.

Oh, and the 97th food processing plant has been destroyed. Lefties will get on here and make excuses.
 


But, but, but the military policies experts on this board JUST TOLD ME that this admin spent more on the military!! So it has to be better, right?!?!

Are you implying they are fos?
 
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