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What does the Bible say about jailing parents for life if their trans kid seeks hormone treatment for gender dysphoria?
What's next...public stoning or hanging? The religious right has swerved way too far off course.
As to not turn this into a theological debate, because this has already been addressed before, I’ll keep this short and sweet. Levitical Law was broken into different sections. Ceremonial Law, Moral Law, & Judicial Law. I know you leftist love to take bits and pieces of the Judicial Law, which was written for nomadic people just establishing their society, and pass it off as if it Christians believe it was for todays time, but we don’t. End of that.

However, the bill you’re linking here is definitely preventing abuse. Parents have a right to raise their children. However, they can’t abuse them. I’m guessing you also support children receiving anabolic steroids if they felt they wanted them or maybe surgically adding a tail and floppy ears if they wanted to be a puppy. Would you support underage children making decisions to have relationships with or marry adults because they “feel or believe a certain way.” 65-94% of these children will eventually cease to identify as transgender as studies in the past have shown. Then when they’re of legal age and their brain is nearly fully developed, they can make their own decisions. If you’ve taught special education as you claim, you should know children aren’t cognitively able to make rational choices about sexuality. You’re projecting yourself as being obsessed with child sexuality. It’s not a good look.
 
As to not turn this into a theological debate, because this has already been addressed before, I’ll keep this short and sweet. Levitical Law was broken into different sections. Ceremonial Law, Moral Law, & Judicial Law. I know you leftist love to take bits and pieces of the Judicial Law, which was written for nomadic people just establishing their society, and pass it off as if it Christians believe it was for todays time, but we don’t. End of that.

However, the bill you’re linking here is definitely preventing abuse. Parents have a right to raise their children. However, they can’t abuse them. I’m guessing you also support children receiving anabolic steroids if they felt they wanted them or maybe surgically adding a tail and floppy ears if they wanted to be a puppy. Would you support underage children making decisions to have relationships with or marry adults because they “feel or believe a certain way.” 65-94% of these children will eventually cease to identify as transgender as studies in the past have shown. Then when they’re of legal age and their brain is nearly fully developed, they can make their own decisions. If you’ve taught special education as you claim, you should know children aren’t cognitively able to make rational choices about sexuality. You’re projecting yourself as being obsessed with child sexuality. It’s not a good look.
First off, gender and sexuality are two completely different things. This was a discussion about gender dysphoria/trans laws not sexual relations involving children. Not sure why some on here are so obsessed with pedophilia....It's just bizarre.
Secondly I'm not saying 7 year old kids should have life altering surgery to change their sex. I think they should have to wait until age 18 for that.
But a teenager deciding to take hormones under the care of a doctor and with their parental permission should be an option imo and not punishable by jail for life.
 
First off, gender and sexuality are two completely different things. This was a discussion about gender dysphoria/trans laws not sexual relations involving children. Not sure why some on here are so obsessed with pedophilia....It's just bizarre.
Secondly I'm not saying 7 year old kids should have life altering surgery to change their sex. I think they should have to wait until age 18 for that.
But a teenager deciding to take hormones under the care of a doctor and with their parental permission should be an option imo and not punishable by jail for life.
Your argument is completely detached from the real world. You're delusional and sick.
 
Which party championed in the system of corporate rule? which party spent every waking moment in DC trying to pass laws to expand corporate power? Which party pushed citizens united up to SCOTUS? Which party worships corporations in the name of the "free market"? Which party fought to dismantle every government agency that tries to fight for consumer rights? Which party pushed though the patriot act, gave us the police state, and quintupled the size of government spying with the DHS in the name of "national security"? It was only when those corporations turned into "big tech" that the GoP leadership started pretending like they cared. they don't.
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First off, gender and sexuality are two completely different things.
Then why the rush to change sex to match gender? Especially if it means matching the typical gender roles to society. Developed by the EVIL patriarchy? (Deep down, you all know it is the same. Youve just confused ppl w your word salad.)

Do you even think through anything? You just parrot 🦜 lame talking points.
 
Speaking of Build Back Better. With all the Russia, Russia, Russia going on (for like the millionth time in 5 years)....no coverage at all of the D.C. trucker convoy AND a 1.5 TRILLION bill passed!! WTH did that come from? I read a couple of articles of 15Billion for Ukraine or some such nonsense, but don't remember it in the context of a much, much larger bill.
Between the child sexual abuse sam is talking about (deviant sexual behavior across the board), election fraud, open borders, and printing money faster than they can process the paper....somebody try to explain to me that the Dems/libs aren't purposefully trying to destroy this country.
 
The Dem powers pulling the strings are ecstatic about this war. Beyond obvious they wanted the war to use it as their crutch to convince their minions in this country to believe all of Biden’s failures are because of Puten and also helps them usher in their Green BS. Solar is almost 20% higher which I am sure pleases their solar industry donors. Now they are slipping ridiculous spending bills through without any media coverage and Republicans are advocating getting more involved to please their military complex donors and doing nothing to stop the madness. Business is really good for Washington while they completely dismantle our country.
 
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Then why the rush to change sex to match gender? Especially if it means matching the typical gender roles to society. Developed by the EVIL patriarchy? (Deep down, you all know it is the same. Youve just confused ppl w your word salad.)

Do you even think through anything? You just parrot 🦜 lame talking points.
I don't know exactly how a trans person feels and obviously you don't either.
Assuming you are male....If someone told you at age 14 that you will be spending the rest of your life wearing lipstick💄, dresses 💃, high heels 👠 and marry a dude with a full beard.....would you have been cool with that? Just imagine for a second that your brain was wired like it is now but most of
society was the exact opposite.
Could you make yourself to start lovin' dudes and living life as a woman? Could you live like that knowing you could actually change yourself to match how you really feel sexually about women?
How would you feel about a law that says you must let your shlong shrivel to the size of a pea because the lawmakers don't believe you really like women and you're just imagining you do?
Try to put yourself in someone else's shoes for a minute and consider the fact that just maybe you don't know everything about what everyone is experiencing in life.
 
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Then why the rush to change sex to match gender? Especially if it means matching the typical gender roles to society. Developed by the EVIL patriarchy? (Deep down, you all know it is the same. Youve just confused ppl w your word salad.)

Do you even think through anything? You just parrot 🦜 lame talking points.
Spot on. It’s all BS to validate a mental illness.

If you look into who came up with the gender theory and really made it a main stream thing, you’ll see just how fvcked up it is. The type of person who pushed for this BS is that of a deranged deviant. John Money. I won’t go into detail, but post a link. Long story short, Money treated one twin like you would a girl at the time and had these brothers engage in sexual acts. Both brothers wound up killings themselves.


This is one of the fathers of gender theory. This is the guy that is a foundation block for this lunacy.
 
Spot on. It’s all BS to validate a mental illness.

If you look into who came up with the gender theory and really made it a main stream thing, you’ll see just how fvcked up it is. The type of person who pushed for this BS is that of a deranged deviant. John Money. I won’t go into detail, but post a link. Long story short, Money treated one twin like you would a girl at the time and had these brothers engage in sexual acts. Both brothers wound up killings themselves.


This is one of the fathers of gender theory. This is the guy that is a foundation block for this lunacy.

sam likes John Money
 
I don't know exactly how a trans person feels and obviously you don't either.
Assuming you are male....If someone told you at age 14 that you will be spending the rest of your life wearing lipstick💄, dresses 💃, high heels 👠 and marry a dude with a full beard.....would you have been cool with that? Just imagine for a second that your brain was wired like it is now but most of
society was the exact opposite.
Could you make yourself to start lovin' dudes and living life as a woman? Could you live like that knowing you could actually change yourself to match how you really feel sexually about women?
How would you feel about a law that says you must let your shlong shrivel to the size of a pea because the lawmakers don't believe you really like women and you're just imagining you do?
Try to put yourself in someone else's shoes for a minute and consider the fact that just maybe you don't know everything about what everyone is experiencing in life.
Dude, no one knows how anyone feels. The problem is we’re pushing the idea of people being whatever they want… we have parents raising their kids as non-binary because feelings and such. What isn’t normal (and it’s not) doesn’t make someone a bad or evil person… but it’s okay to admit they have a mental problem.

Where do we draw a line and say “yeah…. That’s not normal.” Boys being girls clearly isn’t the line. What about people being dogs? Nope. Can a person be a car if they feel like a car? Do we start injecting oil into them so they feel like a car? How do you argue against pedophilia if it’s all about feelings all the time? We don’t know how that pedo feels… love is love.

Feelings are a terrible spot to start to try and build a case or argument.
 
Spot on. It’s all BS to validate a mental illness.

If you look into who came up with the gender theory and really made it a main stream thing, you’ll see just how fvcked up it is. The type of person who pushed for this BS is that of a deranged deviant. John Money. I won’t go into detail, but post a link. Long story short, Money treated one twin like you would a girl at the time and had these brothers engage in sexual acts. Both brothers wound up killings themselves.


This is one of the fathers of gender theory. This is the guy that is a foundation block for this lunacy.
The case study you are citing as evidence of the fallacy of trans issues is exactly the opposite of what you are intending. This case study is the exact reason for allowing gender change and promoting it's mental health benefits. The person you cited as an example was NEVER given a choice in the matter like many of these laws are attempting to do.
Despite the fact that child was changed genitally, given hormones and raised as a girl.....they NEVER felt comfortable in their own body. They NEVER identified as the sex they were supposed to be....which eventually caused so much mental discomfort they chose suicide over living as the sex they were not comfortable with.
This is exactly how many trans people feel.
Even though they have the hormones, genitalia and societal pressures to conform to their identified sex.....they do not identify with that sex mentally. Because of that gender dysphoria they feel extreme psychological discomfort. This is exactly why trans kids are at such a high risk for suicide. All of these dumb ass laws being passed across the country in Christian Taliban states don't help.
 
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Dude, no one knows how anyone feels. The problem is we’re pushing the idea of people being whatever they want… we have parents raising their kids as non-binary because feelings and such. What isn’t normal (and it’s not) doesn’t make someone a bad or evil person… but it’s okay to admit they have a mental problem.

Where do we draw a line and say “yeah…. That’s not normal.” Boys being girls clearly isn’t the line. What about people being dogs? Nope. Can a person be a car if they feel like a car? Do we start injecting oil into them so they feel like a car? How do you argue against pedophilia if it’s all about feelings all the time? We don’t know how that pedo feels… love is love.

Feelings are a terrible spot to start to try and build a case or argument.

I identify as a car that runs on water!
 
Spot on. It’s all BS to validate a mental illness.

If you look into who came up with the gender theory and really made it a main stream thing, you’ll see just how fvcked up it is. The type of person who pushed for this BS is that of a deranged deviant. John Money. I won’t go into detail, but post a link. Long story short, Money treated one twin like you would a girl at the time and had these brothers engage in sexual acts. Both brothers wound up killings themselves.


This is one of the fathers of gender theory. This is the guy that is a foundation block for this lunacy.
That’s vile.
 
Dude, no one knows how anyone feels. The problem is we’re pushing the idea of people being whatever they want… we have parents raising their kids as non-binary because feelings and such. What isn’t normal (and it’s not) doesn’t make someone a bad or evil person… but it’s okay to admit they have a mental problem.

Where do we draw a line and say “yeah…. That’s not normal.” Boys being girls clearly isn’t the line. What about people being dogs? Nope. Can a person be a car if they feel like a car? Do we start injecting oil into them so they feel like a car? How do you argue against pedophilia if it’s all about feelings all the time? We don’t know how that pedo feels… love is love.

Feelings are a terrible spot to start to try and build a case or argument.
Those are all crazy extreme examples you gave that no real doctor or psychologist is going to go along with.
Gender fluidity is part of the human condition across all societies throughout history. Gender and sexuality are part of a broad spectrum.
Your example of pedophilia is the most asinine of all. Trans people are hurting NOBODY. They aren't inflicting any damage on anyone. It is only their lives that are affected by their decision.
I just don't get the insane desire to force others to live life how you decide when it has exactly ZERO impact on you whatsoever. The control freaks are the people that need therapy and/or a new religion.
 
I don't know exactly how a trans person feels and obviously you don't either.
Assuming you are male....If someone told you at age 14 that you will be spending the rest of your life wearing lipstick💄, dresses 💃, high heels 👠 and marry a dude with a full beard.....would you have been cool with that? Just imagine for a second that your brain was wired like it is now but most of
society was the exact opposite.
Could you make yourself to start lovin' dudes and living life as a woman? Could you live like that knowing you could actually change yourself to match how you really feel sexually about women?
How would you feel about a law that says you must let your shlong shrivel to the size of a pea because the lawmakers don't believe you really like women and you're just imagining you do?
Try to put yourself in someone else's shoes for a minute and consider the fact that just maybe you don't know everything about what everyone is experiencing in life.
I can guaran-fing-tee I've thought more deeply through this issue than you could understand. But muh feelings ... muh feelings hurt ... you fell for the setup.

Simple illustration that you "may" understand ... I "feel" like a millionaire ... I'm a rock star ... I go to the bank and say, "give me da money homes". Bank says no. Lesson: just because you feel like something, doesn't mean you are.

Where does this stop? I feel like a woolly mammoth. Does that me entitlements under some species act? No, it is ridiculous. AND ... here is the money maker ... you don't know what it "feels" like ... you know what ... A WOMAN does not know what it truly feels like to be a man and vice versa. But ... you know society says so and all that garbage.

Please, don't come back until you have an original thought.
 
Those are all crazy extreme examples you gave that no real doctor or psychologist is going to go along with.
Gender fluidity is part of the human condition across all societies throughout history. Gender and sexuality are part of a broad spectrum.
Your example of pedophilia is the most asinine of all. Trans people are hurting NOBODY. They aren't inflicting any damage on anyone. It is only their lives that are affected by their decision.
I just don't get the insane desire to force others to live life how you decide when it has exactly ZERO impact on you whatsoever. The control freaks are the people that need therapy and/or a new religion.
No real doctor or psychologist (lol) would have went along with it 40 years ago, but I’m sure they were all just bigots.

Define woman without using female. This has been asked for years without a logical answer.

How is it asinine? Your entire BS argument revolves around feelings and not knowing how people feel. If everything is about feelings, it’s a completely valid point. But you deflect.

And it does have an impact. Look at society now vs 10, 15 or 20 years ago. You don’t have to live in a box, but FFS, stop with validating mental illness. You want to live in a fantasy land, detached from reality. But please continue your mental gymnastics to justify anything and everything you feel.


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I can guaran-fing-tee I've thought more deeply through this issue than you could understand. But muh feelings ... muh feelings hurt ... you fell for the setup.

Simple illustration that you "may" understand ... I "feel" like a millionaire ... I'm a rock star ... I go to the bank and say, "give me da money homes". Bank says no. Lesson: just because you feel like something, doesn't mean you are.

Where does this stop? I feel like a woolly mammoth. Does that me entitlements under some species act? No, it is ridiculous. AND ... here is the money maker ... you don't know what it "feels" like ... you know what ... A WOMAN does not know what it truly feels like to be a man and vice versa. But ... you know society says so and all that garbage.

Please, don't come back until you have an original thought.
Hey! Those are asinine points because it’s not exactly how Sam feels.
 
Those are all crazy extreme examples you gave that no real doctor or psychologist is going to go along with.
Gender fluidity is part of the human condition across all societies throughout history. Gender and sexuality are part of a broad spectrum.
The human body doesn't doesn't "flow" from one sex to another. Mutilating someone is offensive & cruel.
 
"The 2020 census undercounted the country’s population by 18.8 million people, the Census Bureau said on Thursday, acknowledging that the count had underrepresented Black, Latino and Indigenous residents.

At the same time, the census overcounted the number of white and Asian residents, the bureau said.

Robert L. Santos, the bureau’s director, said that despite the omissions, the results were consistent with recent censuses." LMAO.

1. If they know they undercounted some, why didn't they just count them to begin with vs. crying about it? Not much logic there.

2. How do you overcount some? Must have took lessons from elections ballot counters.

3. They admit they're bad at the same job every 10 years. Ground Hog Day, where are you?

Did anyone mention this is your government at work at it's typical best? jHc.

No idea where the NYT got their numbers, but the WSJ today says this:

"The 2020 census on net missed about 0.24% of the U.S. population, or about three-quarters of a million people, the Census Bureau said Thursday in releasing a key report card on the accuracy of the count."

Huge difference between missing 18M & 0.75M.

As much as I bashed government above, I believe the WSJ over NYT any day.

 
I don't know exactly how a trans person feels and obviously you don't either.
Assuming you are male....If someone told you at age 14 that you will be spending the rest of your life wearing lipstick💄, dresses 💃, high heels 👠 and marry a dude with a full beard.....would you have been cool with that? Just imagine for a second that your brain was wired like it is now but most of
society was the exact opposite.
Could you make yourself to start lovin' dudes and living life as a woman? Could you live like that knowing you could actually change yourself to match how you really feel sexually about women?
How would you feel about a law that says you must let your shlong shrivel to the size of a pea because the lawmakers don't believe you really like women and you're just imagining you do?
Try to put yourself in someone else's shoes for a minute and consider the fact that just maybe you don't know everything about what everyone is experiencing in life.
You just described a mentally ill person. Society once offered help for these people.

Why do you dwell on this issue so much? It consumes you. With all of the issues in the world you want people to accept and promote a person with a mental illness? Why not call it what it is and seek help for these people. Some things on this earth are unnatural. This issue is one of them.
 
What does the Bible say about jailing parents for life if their trans kid seeks hormone treatment for gender dysphoria?
What's next...public stoning or hanging? The religious right has swerved way too far off course.
The religious right has gone too far off course!!! ARGGGHHHHH!! Derp derp

Now excuse me while I go take a shit next to a 5 year old girl before I go break a record in a woman’s sport

/Sam.
 
I can guaran-fing-tee I've thought more deeply through this issue than you could understand. But muh feelings ... muh feelings hurt ... you fell for the setup.

Simple illustration that you "may" understand ... I "feel" like a millionaire ... I'm a rock star ... I go to the bank and say, "give me da money homes". Bank says no. Lesson: just because you feel like something, doesn't mean you are.

Where does this stop? I feel like a woolly mammoth. Does that me entitlements under some species act? No, it is ridiculous. AND ... here is the money maker ... you don't know what it "feels" like ... you know what ... A WOMAN does not know what it truly feels like to be a man and vice versa. But ... you know society says so and all that garbage.

Please, don't come back until you have an original thought.
You guys are misunderstanding sam. He's not a drone. He's one of the advocates. Just so you understand who you're dealing with. He's a groomer DEFENDER.
 
I don't know exactly how a trans person feels and obviously you don't either.
Assuming you are male....If someone told you at age 14 that you will be spending the rest of your life wearing lipstick💄, dresses 💃, high heels 👠 and marry a dude with a full beard.....would you have been cool with that? Just imagine for a second that your brain was wired like it is now but most of
society was the exact opposite.
Could you make yourself to start lovin' dudes and living life as a woman? Could you live like that knowing you could actually change yourself to match how you really feel sexually about women?
How would you feel about a law that says you must let your shlong shrivel to the size of a pea because the lawmakers don't believe you really like women and you're just imagining you do?
Try to put yourself in someone else's shoes for a minute and consider the fact that just maybe you don't know everything about what everyone is experiencing in life.
Sambo my biggest fear for the trans freaks isn’t their mental health, its climate change 😂🍺
 
As if we didn't already know this:


It has to be pretty bad for The NY Times to admit it...
 
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