POLITICAL THREAD

[azurricat2010]

Gas on my commute to work 30 miles away. Groceries food when you eat out, etc etc etc. Just a matter of time when the stock market will eat me up. Could have had more profit sharing where I work had we hired a lot more people to fill demand. Too many people not having to work. Effects a lot more than you would know. Some of the stuff, could go on but you see what I am talking about.

Fair, just don't throw "losing money from the stock market" in there. I've seen so many people sell in times like this but in reality you're not losing or gaining until you realize your position. Don't hurt your future self from something that will pass.

Also remember with inflation a way to combat it is through raising rates which is what the FOMC is going to do. This will slam the markets in the short to medium term but those upward inflationary pressures we're currently seeing,thanks to printing money in 2020 and supply chain issues, will subside.

Ideally gas prices will decrease during this bear market but with the war in Ukraine I don't know how severely it will impact crude prices around the world. You'd expect a negative result but hopefully this war doesn't last long, see Crimea.

 

[JStaff2187]

Biden in 2019: Imagine What Could Happen to Ukraine If Trump Wins Re-Election

Yeah, imagine.

rumble.com

 

[Blue_2_the_bone]

I agree...but I would say they see more than
just the weakness of Biden. He followed the erratic Trump who basically made Biden an illegitimate President for half the country and mocked NATO. Obama was weak as well. Bush got us into two unwinnable wars.
20 years of chaos, wars, weakness, senility, insurrection and isolationism between the last 4 Presidents.

Bush was a Warhawk. Obama just wanted to be liked by the world. Although I wasn’t a huge fan of Trumps approach at times, he loved America, and his policies led to more peace during his presidency than any surrounding him. His policies were good for our country as a whole. Putin already tested the waters with Crimea when Obama was in office and came out well. Whether it was Trumps boldness or Putins fear of what you called erratic behavior, he didn’t want to try to bluff him and bided his time. In an all out effort to grab an election, democrat and media disinformation led us to what we have today, the weakest President since Jimmy Carter. There’s a reason why Putin, Xi, & most Europe wanted Biden and it isn’t because it benefitted the US.

 

[Lost In FL]

Damn.

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Thank goodness those people who just got vaporized didnt have to deal w mean tweets the past 13 months.

 

[trueblujr2]

You beginning to understand how the Taliban beat our asses now?

Russian military recruitment video.

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USA military recruitment video

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We’re phuched

 

[BigBlueManSouthCentralKY]

Obviously Iran didn't respect him when they fired missiles into our military base in Iraq.

Iran lost one of their Gods because of Trump. Just hard to believe so many Americans side with criminals, criminal activity, illegals and corrupt officials. A LOT more of this stuff should be coming out in the next year or two. Finally get a guy in that fixes more issues in America than any other president ever and half of America does not even care, just know they don't like his personality or something. The job is to make America the best it can be and he did all he could possibly do and more while being piled on by people that cares more for their power over this country and the American people. How could any human being not see this? Three things. Ignorance, not caring or political. These people fall into one of these three things. And none of it has anything to do with making America and its citizens be the best it can be.

 

[Lost In FL]

Yeah, that Afghanistan withdrawal was a real feather in Biden’s cap.

Also, that “growth “ in jobs is the inevitable return of some jobs that were lost due to the Dem restrictions placed on businesses in the name of COVID. Thats not actual growth. In other words, you don’t get to kill 10 jobs with unnecessary mandates and other restrictions on businesses, And then claim credit when 5 of these jobs come back.

Any fool can see that.

Well, clearly not ANY fool...

 

[azurricat2010]

It's the best I got right now.

Sadly, even if you used the bureau of labor statistics, a source Trump amd Fox use, the people here will say "Fake News"

Even if you used financial information from Bloomberg, Google Finance, Yahoo Finance, even Fox Business people here will say "fake news"

You could list 10-Ks from SEC.gov and they'd say "fake news"

Basically any data linked in the articles you listed can be found from a primary source, see some stuff I listed, and they'd call it "fake news"

 

[55wildcat]

 

[LowCountryCat]

Just keep doing like you do....deny and ignoring anything you don't like that isn't aligned with your agenda

He doesn't even know who was President in 1980.

 

[sambowieshin]

Iran lost one of their Gods because of Trump. Just hard to believe so many Americans side with criminals, criminal activity, illegals and corrupt officials. A LOT more of this stuff should be coming out in the next year or two. Finally get a guy in that fixes more issues in America than any other president ever and half of America does not even care, just know they don't like his personality or something. The job is to make America the best it can be and he did all he could possibly do and more while being piled on by people that cares more for their power over this country and the American people. How could any human being not see this? Three things. Ignorance, not caring or political. These people fall into one of these three things. And none of it has anything to do with making America and its citizens be the best it can be.

If he could have ever learned to STFU for five minutes and to not just be the President of the Red States of America 24/7....we wouldn't have Jelly brain Joe today.

 

[azurricat2010]

He doesn't even know who was President in 1980.

He shares the same initials as the son above.

 

[Blue_2_the_bone]

If he could have ever learned to STFU for five minutes and to not just be the President of the Red States of America 24/7....we wouldn't have Jelly brain Joe today.

That’s the thing. He was President for all the states. He did work for the entire country’s benefit, but our media didn’t want to show it.

 

[sambowieshin]

What happened after that? They fcked around and found out that you don’t do that without retaliation. Biden will continue what Obama taught him. Draw a line… take a step back…. Draw a line… take a step back…. Draw a line…

Sure hope not. Looks like he's doing the right thing right now.

 

[Gassy_Knowls]

Sadly, even if you used the bureau of labor statistics, a source Trump amd Fox use, the people here will say "Fake News"

Even if you used financial information from Bloomberg, Google Finance, Yahoo Finance, even Fox Business people here will say "fake news"

You could list 10-Ks from SEC.gov and they'd say "fake news"

Basically any data linked in the articles you listed can be found from a primary source, see some stuff I listed, and they'd call it "fake news"

lol, you hate America. This is a America First thread. FYI.

 

[sambowieshin]

He doesn't even know who was President in 1980.

Leave JC out of this. He's got a brain tumor and is building houses! 😉

 

[trueblujr2]

He killed your hero Soleimani tho

And they all thought WW3 was going to erupt from that.

 

[Lost In FL]

If he could have ever learned to STFU for five minutes and to not just be the President of the Red States of America 24/7....we wouldn't have Jelly brain Joe today.

A sliver of truth here. Most of us wish he would not have picked stupid fights with stupid people. However, as the adults in the room, we were willing to set that aside for the good of the country.

I was not a trump supporter in the primary. I voted for Carson. However, i grew to like trump because of how he GOVERNED. Our country was better off everywhere. Shoot, things were so good even CNN could succeed.

 

[Blue_2_the_bone]

A sliver of truth here. Most of us wish he would not have picked stupid fights with stupid people. However, as the adults in the room, we were willing to set that aside for the good of the country.

I was not a trump supporter in the primary. I voted for Carson. However, i grew to like trump because of how he GOVERNED. Our country was better off everywhere. Shoot, things were so good even CNN could succeed.

Same here. Once he was in, things ran great. I could set aside the things that irked me because I saw the whole picture.

 

[sambowieshin]

That’s the thing. He was President for all the states. He did work for the entire countries benefit, but our media didn’t want to show it.

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Not really.

Trump suggests U.S. shouldn’t bail out Democratic-run states

President Donald Trump suggested on Monday that federal money shouldn’t be used to aid states and cities run by Democrats, as he met with governors seeking...

www.marketwatch.com

 

[Blue_2_the_bone]

Not really.

Trump suggests U.S. shouldn’t bail out Democratic-run states

President Donald Trump suggested on Monday that federal money shouldn’t be used to aid states and cities run by Democrats, as he met with governors seeking...

www.marketwatch.com

I wonder why democrat states were so quick to crash their own economy and look to the federal government for a handout while some states did not? Other states started reopening while they remained shut down. It’s not like there was an election looming or anything.

 

[azurricat2010]

I wonder why democrat states were so quick to crash their own economy and look to the federal government for a handout while some states did not? It’s not like there was an election looming.

CA has the 5th largest economy in the world.

 

[BlueRunner11]

CNN is an embarrassment

 

[SDC888]

Sadly, even if you used the bureau of labor statistics, a source Trump amd Fox use, the people here will say "Fake News"

Even if you used financial information from Bloomberg, Google Finance, Yahoo Finance, even Fox Business people here will say "fake news"

You could list 10-Ks from SEC.gov and they'd say "fake news"

Basically any data linked in the articles you listed can be found from a primary source, see some stuff I listed, and they'd call it "fake news"

It's not the links themselves per se, or the data itself, nor where it's sourced from...

It's what you conclude from them, your shockingly poor ability to reason them through - what they're telling you. Never in my life have I seen a group of people so unjustifiably over confident in themselves as you complete fools. It's genuinely shocking and pathetic.

If only you were half as smart as you think you are, you'd actually be able to figure out just how dumb you are.

But here we are, and it ain't gonna get no betta.

 

[azurricat2010]

lol, you hate America. This is a America First thread. FYI.

You're just a troll. Saying people hate America just because they don't share the same ideals is about as un-American as you can get.

 

[SDC888]

You're just a troll. Saying people hate America just because they don't share the same ideals is about as un-American as you can get.

They're bunk, anti-American ideals.

Maybe try your luck in the metaverse, and leave the rest of us who value this country and her values for what she is, alone.

 

[BigBlueManSouthCentralKY]

If he could have ever learned to STFU for five minutes and to not just be the President of the Red States of America 24/7....we wouldn't have Jelly brain Joe today.

Agree about talking too much sometimes and I think a lot of his people tried telling him unsuccessfully. If he could have just stayed away like Biden does they would have nothing to say about him because all he ever did was fix things and make things better. If you are referring to his bashing blue state governors and the like, have to admit, those are some of the crappiest states and a lot of good people in those states deserve better. Wanting to get better leaders in the crappiest states is what any decent person would want for the people. I don't think he treated any state different when trying to help them beat covid. He attacked the bad leaders in those states. Not the innocent people that just want to live a good life.

 

[BigBlueManSouthCentralKY]

Not really.

Trump suggests U.S. shouldn’t bail out Democratic-run states

President Donald Trump suggested on Monday that federal money shouldn’t be used to aid states and cities run by Democrats, as he met with governors seeking...

www.marketwatch.com

Give them money to give to people too lazy to work? Give them money to mismanage again? Give them money for political gain? And on and on and on. Good reason for it, easy to see.

 

[Blue_2_the_bone]

CA has the 5th largest economy in the world.

And?

 

[BlueRunner11]

CA has the 5th largest economy in the world.

Outside the national and state parks, CA is now a shithole. I live there. People are leaving in droves.

 

[tommyg4uk]

 

[azurricat2010]

It's not the links themselves per se, or the data itself, nor where it's sourced from...

It's what you conclude from them, your shockingly poor ability to reason them through - what they're telling you. Never in my life have I seen a group of people so unjustifiably over confident in themselves as you complete fools. It's genuinely shocking and pathetic.

If only you were half as smart as you think you are, you'd actually be able to figure out just how dumb you are.

But here we are, and it ain't gonna get no betta.

Like this?

Trump touts 'historic' June jobs report: 'Our economy is roaring back'

President Trump, during a pre-holiday press briefing at the White House, touted the June jobs report that indicated the economy is beginning to rebound from the depths of its crash during the coronavirus pandemic.

www.foxnews.com

Sure it's dumb to say Biden "created" these jobs as they were jobs that were already lost but when the right used the same argument in 2020 it was fine. In the article above Trump is touting the "largest monthly jobs gain in the history of our country."

It's fair for him to do that but not the other side?

You say "shockingly poor ability to reason them through" and if you really mean this that means you're critiquing Trump as well.

Why?

Notice: Data not available: U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics

data.bls.gov

Civilian unemployment rate

www.bls.gov

Prior to the Covid crash Trumps administration created around 6,900,000 jobs

22 million jobs were lost between March and April 2020. 22 million minus 7 million (rounded up 6.9m) is a deficit of 15 million jobs

By the time Trump touted those June numbers around 7.1m jobs had returned meaning there was still a deficit of 7.9 million jobs, meaning those jobs he was taking credit for weren't actual jobs created during his administration.

Again using your logic that would mean Trump has a "shockingly poor ability to reason them through"


Worst of all Trump touted those June 2020 numbers and yet the unemployment rate at the time was 10.2%, a number higher than the first year peak under Obama. Unemployment levels didn't reach first-year Trump levels until Fall 2021.



Now we know these job losses in 2020 are attributed to the mini-recession we had due to Covid and the lockdowns but if Trump can tout and tout and tout then the same rationale has to apply to the other side.

 

[Cawood86]

Know someone whose spouse is deployed in Guam right now. I guess Guam has an Air Force base as well as a Naval base. Guess they are 'ramping up' (their words not mine) for a possible Chinese invasion of Taiwan. Not sure what 'ramping up' means....probably just heightened awareness.

Just hope the Island doesn't tip over first....j/k.....hope she is safe and all others

 

[Cawood86]

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Complete clowns....just complete idiocy

 

[azurricat2010]

They're bunk, anti-American ideals.

Maybe try your luck in the metaverse, and leave the rest of us who value this country and her values for what she is, alone.

Dude, @Gassy_Knowls was saying I hate America just because I listed out finance references, some of which Trump used. Just because a liberal posts something (me) doesn't mean they hate America.

 

[Cawood86]

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Don't you just feel safer with this useless perv in charge

 

[Platinumdrgn]

What new war are we in? Oh that's right, none.

 

[hmt5000]

You need to be doing this too if you live somewhere affected by leftist policy.

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And if you look at the Newsom recall... the people leaving aren't even close to being mostly liberal.

 

[BigBlueFanGA]

Saw an article about Ukraine not being admitted to NATO in 2008. The article stated that Germany black-balled them due to 'corruption' and mentioned Burisma by name (among others). Who was working for Burisma in 2008? Oh yeah, Hunter Biden! Speculating that Ukraine wouldn't be in this position if allowed to join NATO in '08, but as long as Hunter got to keep lining his (and 'the big guy's') pockets, I guess it's OK that they're getting overrun.

China rattling sabers in the wake of Ukraine stating this morning that China 'considers Taiwan a part of China'. Well, look out below! More sanctions coming! That'll show those dastardly Chinese!

Erasing US' energy independence the moment he stepped into office, Biden managed to not only decrease the US' security but NATO's, also. Well done, sir.

The only person in America who's happy about these developments is Jimmy Carter who no longer has the stigma of being the US' worst president. And, it only took Biden 14 months to claim that crown. Quite the overachiever.

Carter also has the benefit of being a good man. A horrible president but a really good man. Biden is the absolute worst president and a steaming, corrupt POS.

 

[Cawood86]

We export more oil/petroleum products than we import under Biden.

The U.S. exported slightly more petroleum than it imported in the first half of 2021 - U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA)

www.eia.gov

The stock market is setting records under Biden.

The S&P 500 rang up 68 records in Biden's 1st year? Here's how stock-market returns stack up for the 46th president against others.

Democratic President Joseph R. Biden can boast the best annual performance for the S&P 500 index since the first term of President Barack Obama,

www.marketwatch.com

Record job growth in his first year.

Biden sets first-year record with 6.6 million jobs added

Employers added a record 6.6 million jobs during Joe Biden's first 12 months in office, by far the strongest record of any president's first year in office.

www.cnn.com

Best GDP growth since 1984.

Biden sets first-year record with 6.6 million jobs added

Employers added a record 6.6 million jobs during Joe Biden's first 12 months in office, by far the strongest record of any president's first year in office.

www.cnn.com

Congress passed the bipartisan Infrastructure Bill.

Senate Passes $1 Trillion Infrastructure Bill, Handing Biden a Bipartisan Win (Published 2021)

The approval came after months of negotiations and despite deficit concerns, reflecting an appetite in both parties for the long-awaited spending package.

www.nytimes.com

Biden increased the military budget by 5 percent.

Biden authorizes $768.2 billion in defense spending, a 5 percent increase

President Joe Biden has signed the National Defense Authorization Act into law, authorizing $768.2 billion in military spending, including a 2.7% pay raise for service members, for 2022.

www.pbs.org

Biden actually did what Trump promised to do.....Bring home our troops from Afghanistan.

The last US military planes have left Afghanistan, marking the end of the United States' longest war

The last US military planes have left Afghanistan, Gen. Frank McKenzie, the commander of US Central Command, announced Monday at the Pentagon. The US departure marks the end of a fraught, chaotic and bloody exit from the United States' longest war.

www.cnn.com

Biden recommitted the US allegiance to NATO after Trump mocked it for 4 years and cut spending. Damn good thing he did.

In NATO debut, Biden's Pentagon aims to rebuild trust damaged by Trump

President Joe Biden's administration will use a NATO defense gathering this week to begin what is expected to be a years-long effort to rebuild trust with European allies shaken by Donald Trump's "America First" foreign policy.

www.reuters.com

NT times, CNN, PBS....what a joke just like Biden