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Personally I think parts of the bible, especially the old testament, are metaphors. I think especially true of Genesis because we know genesis is not the oldest book in the Bible (that would be Job) it's just the first in chronology. I think we were certainly created by a superior being, whether it is called a god or whatever moniker is preferred. The odds of us otherwise springing into existence as the only identifiable life in the universe is just too much.
For the flood - I also think unintentionally some of it also included some Jungian type lore. I use that term although I think most of Jung's theories can be much easier explained by the fact it's more likely that people actually experienced some of the same events, albeit with the time frames differing due to the long periods of time before they were reduced to writing. Oral history is easy to get wrong. So I think there probably was a global flood event that many cultures experienced and either wrote about or passed down. I think the ark itself is metaphor or parable.
I think much of the new testament is factual through their eyes as best it could be given the long oral history before it was reduced to writing. Iirc Luke was the only author that wrote what was an actual first hand account, albeit decades later.
And you refused to concede the comments were taken out of context when presented with the full statement.
Imo steeldrivers was clearly Stapleton's best work. He's still great but it's a shame he didn't make it big as a singer till years later.
You just keep pounding him in the face with facts (hotdogs)... and he/she is completely oblivious.
Dude I still can't believe I forgot you were John and got rolled by your religion troll. You're basically responsible for this whole back and forth the last few days. Probably sitting behind your computer screen cackling. Deservedly lol.
Your personal attacks make you boring, predictable, and tiresome.
Scientists aren't even sure Archaeopteryx had feathers. They are distancing themselves from claims that it's even a bird. But yeah, SCIENCE!
But that's what evolution teaches. You won't find a single evolutionary literary work trying to tackle the quantitative. They keep it qualitative and general, because they are afraid to explain which one came before what. You're just sopping up whatever they say without questioning it.
Short-snouted? You mean like alligators? LOL
Context doesn't matter when speaking to the world about a democracy that is surrounded on three sides by Putin's tanks.
Russian state tv doesn't give a sh** about context. All they play on a loop is the garbage spewing from Trump's mouth calling Putin a genius...and Tucker Carlson apologizing for Putin and comparing Ukraine to Mexico.
Everything you just said is false and there is zero evidence for it. They are just wild assertions that you are regurgitating.
There is no fossil evidence that supports that species became extinct through the competition that Darwin insists is necessary for the emergence of new and improved species. You see, to “create” new species by evolution, the older species must become extinct or at least separated geographically. So evolution is also a concept of extinction of species. But there is no fossil evidence supporting extinction of any species by competition with the new and improved creature.
The beatdown being handed out to the libs on here the last few days is absolutely hilarious.
Who dat? I thought I was duke blu. I’m just me.
that is actually a slightly reasonable idea. but it is not what dogmatic Christians believe. But it also only covers a small part of the Noah story. It also is not backed up by any kind of science. an event like that in such a relatively recent time period would show species all branching out from a small genome set. There would also be mountains of evidence within the same sediment layer across the planet from an event that flooded the entire earth and wiped out all life.
I think this is what probably the majority of Christians believe. That parts of the bible are just to crazy to be taken literally. But when you have to assume that pieces are make believe then why would the whole thing not be make believe? The Noah story is very specific and never stated as a metaphor.
There is nothing ambiguous about these passages.
Bible Gateway passage: Genesis 7 - New International Version
The LORD then said to Noah, “Go into the ark, you and your whole family, because I have found you righteous in this generation. Take with you seven pairs of every kind of clean animal, a male and its mate, and one pair of every kind of unclean animal, a male and its mate, and also seven pairs of...
its in the damn bible how big it is. 450ft long, 45ft tall, 75 ft wide. thats half the size of the titanic.
He can’t help himself. CNN (or slate/salon/vice/young Turks) told him ‘orange man comments bad’, so that’s all he has to go on.
I think this is what probably the majority of Christians believe. That parts of the bible are just to crazy to be taken literally. But when you have to assume that pieces are make believe then why would the whole thing not be make believe? The Noah story is very specific and never stated as a metaphor.
There is nothing ambiguous about these passages.
Bible Gateway passage: Genesis 7 - New International Version
The LORD then said to Noah, “Go into the ark, you and your whole family, because I have found you righteous in this generation. Take with you seven pairs of every kind of clean animal, a male and its mate, and one pair of every kind of unclean animal, a male and its mate, and also seven pairs of...www.biblegateway.com
Modern evolutionists have named over one million different animal species and that is the number that most people think of when considering the number of animals on the ark. However, the Bible does not say “species” it says “kinds” (remember, “species” is a modern concept). The Hebrew word for “kind” is “min” and was a much more broad category than the modern “species.”
The Bible also says that it was only air-breathing land animals that went onto the ark. That means that sea creatures and possibly insects and other invertebrates were not on the ark. There are about 35,000 species (including those in the fossil record) left and of them, we have about 1,000 families! “Families” are a current family level that are much closer to the Biblical word “Kind” (Hebrew: ‘min’).
After calculating what information we have from God’s Word and what information we know from the fossil record and observable science, we can conclude that there were no more than 16,000 land animals and birds on the ark.
The animals were also, most likely, young so they would live longer, have a better chance of survival during and after the flood, reduce space on the ark, reduce waste and reduce food consumption. So the large dinosaurs and other big animals would not have taken nearly as much space as many might imagine.
The Bible tells us that the Ark had three levels. With all of this information we can easily calculate that less than half of the floor space on the ark was used to house all of the creatures on board. The other half of the enormous ark was used for animal and human food, potable water and other living requirements.
There was likely extra room on the ark, as a matter of fact. That extra space would have been for any one, who decided to repent of their wickedness and get on board, to be saved.
WKYT reported today that residential rental rates are exploding. They interviewed a women that had to move into a boyfriend's apartment. I doubt that will end well for her. Also, seeing reports of elderly folks on fixed income who can no longer afford their basic grocery needs because of rising prices.
But I thought the walls were closing in.
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I find it interesting that immediately after I answered a commenter's question about what to make of the world circling the drain right now with a Biblical answer, suddenly all the trolls show up scoffing and barking.
Satan doesn't like the gospel being spread, does he?
Satan doesn't like the gospel being spread, does he?
No. You're misunderstanding or intentionally playing semantics with word definitions. Archaeopteryx's feathers weren't as advanced as modern bird feathers but they were definitely a rudimentary version. Most dinosaurs had them, as birds are dinosaurs. Just the ones that lived.
No it isn't. Individual populations change due to environmental selective pressures interacting with local mutations. Breakaway species form, live, and go extinct all while their larger progenitor species continues on in many cases.
Yes. Crocodiles and alligators are the two main branches of crocodilians, more closely related to each other than anything else. They're both variations that share a common ancestor that was similar to them. That's why I used the example.
Also, as requested, can someone start a religious theology and evolution thread so these guys can take their novel writing arguments elsewhere?
This clutter is ridiculous.
This is the 'political thread'.
This clutter is ridiculous.
This is the 'political thread'.
That simply doesn't explain abiogenesis and no one seems to have an explanation yet. However, you're kinda getting back to your tremendous faith that I don't have.
With Russia and China trying to rearrange the new world order and the complete dysfunction of our government/political parties in the U.S.......I would guess we are in for a long bumpy ride until we get our sh** together.
Continuing to vilify one another and refuse to work together for the common welfare of our country will not end well for any of us.
When you have the de facto leader of one of the two major parties of the US being played on Russian state tv as an example of US support for the Russian invasion of a democratic country.....not looking too hot for democracy around the globe.
Guess Republicans have forgotten the phrase...."The enemy of my enemy is my friend".......or they just made the choice that Russia is now more of an American ally than Democrats. Good luck with that useful idiots.
No idea where you go this but it isn't true. The current theory of the extinction of Megalodon was being outcompeted by its smaller, more agile, and warmer blooded newly evolved competitor, the White Shark(Great White). Besides I don't even know what you're really saying. The vast majority of species throughout all of history are extinct. Animal populations are pushed out of their current ranges by newly introduced competitors all the time. Look at invasive species issues throughout the world.
YOU'RE misunderstanding the FACT that NOBODY can say that Arch was "DEFINITELY" ANYTHING. Were you there? Nope. It's a proven FACT that Jesus Christ existed, but not that Arch had feathers.
This still fails to address the quantitative requirement evolution must meet in order to substantiate its claims of mutation and DNA advancement in order to qualify as 'science.'
AGAIN, nothing you are saying has any scientific merit. It's all guesswork and has nothing to do with actual science.
yea, your fitting 16,000 animals/dinosaurs in 30,000 sq ft on the main level. and then storing enough food for them for half a year on the next level. LMAO! you couldn't store enough food for a 10th of those animals to live for 2 weeks on a boat that size. oh and you have uhhhm, 8 people taking care of those 16,000 animals as they shit all over each other in their allotted 2 sq ft.? get real buddy. you are probably the only person on this thread not laughing at what you just posted.
None of what you just said has anything to do with ACTUAL mutation or genetic evolution, which is what you claim happened for your molecules-to-man 'theory.' You're so spastic with your "spaghetti-against-the-wall" strategy that you can't even stay on topic, most likely because you instinctively know you're outclassed.
Frankly, I'm surprised you can even claim anything definitively, since you are nothing more than a random collection of molecules. Is that "YOU" that made that claim, or is it just a random collection of electrical impulses formed by the random bashing together of neurons in your randomly formed skull?
This should certainly help the gay community who go through partners like Wilt Chamberlain. But who cares if they get HIV. Moderna has a HIV vaccine coming out anyway.
Fine. I'm bored with them anyway. They go to some rando website and spew a cloud of intellectual puzzles hoping to trip me up, and they get nowhere so they start calling names. They are probably 55 years old with the emotional maturity of a gnat.
Cult 45 thinks Russia is closer to a democracy than Ukraine and that Putin is a savvy genius deserving of praise for attacking its neighbor!!!
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"The Ukrainian president, elected by direct popular vote for a five-year term, is the head of state. The president acts as the commander in chief of the armed forces, oversees executive ministries, and has the power to initiate and to veto legislation, though vetoes may be overturned."
Oral traditions blend myth and history so they're malleable by nature which allows people to forge bonds over similarities. Whether it was a natural ice damn breaking or a flash flood from rain miles away in the mountains you never saw, floods had a dramatic and devastating impact on early man and their legends have endured and merged. But specifically the ancient historical Jewish stories of the Flood I link to the Garden of Eden and their specific cultural history. That area of the ME was humanity's fertile home. Mesopotamia, the fertile Crescent, the Tigris and Euphrates. Or as the bible calls them, Hiddekel(Tigris), Phrath(Euphrates), Pishon, and Gihon. They all feed into an area that's now flooded by the Persian Gulf due to higher sea levels. That was the birthplace of agriculture, writing, and large scale human permanent habitation. The loss of that would be culturally devastating and resonate for millennia. It was a local event though, not global as you point out. Sure would've seemed like the whole world was drowning from their perspective though.
But their DNA was different, not homo sapiens sapiens. So how are they fully human if humans are h-s-s & God created Man?
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