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I don't think there's anything more divisive than identity politics. We see it everywhere including on this board. It's okay to have a set of beliefs but it's not okay to think someone is evil** just because their ideas are the opposite of one's own. That's where I was getting at replying to Gassy.

**unless it's actually evil, such as the calling for killing people.
Which party pushes Identity politics the hardest?
 
Those variations add up over time to become new species. You can clearly see that in the fossil record. Where do new species come from then? God creates an entire population out of thin air and plops them down somewhere? Why has that never been observed then? By your own standard that means it doesn’t happen right?
You missed the point, but today is another day ending in Y.

I said my belief is on faith and supported through observation and study. Same as your side, but you wont call it a religion.

Name one time when that scenario has been observed.
 
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You have no idea what they will look like or even if their DNA will resemble elephants at all a billion years from now. And that's assuming they don't go extinct.
It's all hypothesis and conjecture. Claiming to know it all as a human here for 70-100 years is the epitome of arrogance.
Could not agree more, your position is arrogant. Have to say, im surprised you admitted it.

It is your religious belief, whether you are willing to admit it or not.
 
Make no mistake, it's their ultimate goal. Will it happen by 2030? probably not that quickly. But a lot can change in 8 years. They've made it clear, they are infiltrating federal governments with their people and pushing policies that align with their stated goals. Klaus Schwab is a Totalitairan intent on reshaping the world in his image. The people who think this is going to result in some grand utopia are in for a rude awakening.

I've seen people on here brush things like Covid or The Great Reset off like it's nonsense by saying "yeah, all these countries all got together to form this one big plot against the people of the world". Well the WEF is your evidence of just that happening.

The great reset was some conspiracy theory until that was literally the theme of their meeting last year, including the signage everywhere.
 
Those variations add up over time to become new species. You can clearly see that in the fossil record. Where do new species come from then? God creates an entire population out of thin air and plops them down somewhere? Why has that never been observed then? By your own standard that means it doesn’t happen right?
Nope, I've already demonstrated that the fossil record says THE OPPOSITE.
 
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Those variations add up over time to become new species. You can clearly see that in the fossil record. Where do new species come from then? God creates an entire population out of thin air and plops them down somewhere? Why has that never been observed then? By your own standard that means it doesn’t happen right?
Again, forming a new species of finch or even primate is going to happen. How do you get from say, algae to fish without a never ending string of hypotheses. You don't. There is no real answer for abiogenisis.
 
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Those variations add up over time to become new species.
This sentence alone demonstrates GROSS ignorance of a) what evolution actually teaches and b) what the fossil record actually shows. But I'm not surprised. Someone who just listened in class at a government school didn't get any real schooling on evolution, just assertions they were forced to regurgitate in order to pass into the next grade.
 
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Horseshit. Nothing pisses me off more than people blaming Trump for the divisiveness.

All the while they had NO problem calling him a nazi, white supremacist, Russian puppet, illegitimate president, moron, tax cheat, and on and on and on. Oh, and called any one supporting him the same things.

F*ck off with that.

They hated him because he unapologetically loved and stood up for everything “America” when they had all been brainwashed by Obama to hate it and constantly feel the need to apologize for it.
 
Mean Tweets are the least of the reasons Trump was voted out. He was divisive as hell. He pitted Americans against one another and was only the President of the Red States of America.
Nobody was in love with Biden but saw him as the lesser of two evils. His attempt to overthrow the government and remain in power only solidified that choice.
And Trump calling Putin "saavy" and a "genius" during the worst military crisis in Europe since WW2 is pathetic boot licking. They are using Trump and Tucker Carlson clips on Russian state tv right now as examples of Putin being supported in America. F'ing pathetic.
Hopefully we have better choices in 2024. If it's Biden and Trump again....our country will just sink further toward failing democracy status. Both of them suck azz.
Trump did no such thing. The liberal bought and paid for media, followed every DNC narrative and talking point and pushed vitriol, hatred and divisiveness towards Trump from the moment he came down that escalator. (I've actually gone down that same escalator myself by the way.) Trump was constantly on the defensive. Could he have handled it better? In a lot of ways yes, but the divisiveness you saw was perpetuated by the media and democrat politicians spewing hatred, offensive, and inciteful remarks towards Trump, his supporters and Republicans in general that continues to this day.
Who is calling peaceful Americans who disagree with what's happening Terrorists? who is calling parents who want a say in what their children are being taught or mandated (masks, vaccines) Domestic Terrorists? Who is calling the Truckers Terrorists, White Supremacists, Nazis, Fascists? It's certainly not Republicans.
 
Show me a country that doesn't have warts. EVERY country has it's own list of atrocities or bad historical moments. Does that stop them from espousing loyalty and honor to their Country? Do they demonize their flags? We are the only country still trying to punish our people for the sins of their forefathers and events that happened hundreds of years ago.

When people visit the Coliseum in Rome, they go there, take their selfies and admire it for this piece of amazing Roman architecture. They don't go there to sit in silence and honor those who were fed to the lions in front of roaring crowds in that building. Do Italians demonize their flag and tell kids they shouldn't be proud of their country over those historical atrocities?

When people visit the Aztec ruins, they take their smiling selfies on the the steps. Do they realize heads use to roll down those steps? We could go on for days about all the atrocities the world has experienced, but that is history and countries build from it. They don't use it as a deterrent to building loyalty, pride and honor to their country.
Liberals HATE that America is the greatest country in the history of this planet
 
Evolution is a scientific theory that is research based and just makes more sense to me than creationism.
But if you split the difference you could say God created the environment for evolution to take place.
At the end of the day nobody truly knows. Hopefully, someday we will.
Youre almost there. It is almost encouraging to see. Truth.

There are 6 kinds of evolution, the 6th is microevolution and creates variances within a species. That is true and is the ONLY one of the 6 that has been observed. The rest is faith, i.e. religion. In other words, religion is taught in schools and is called evolution.
 
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The great reset was some conspiracy theory until that was literally the theme of their meeting last year, including the signage everywhere.
Trump was a speed bump. Hillary was supposed to foster it all along. Covid was the catalyst they needed to expedite the process and make up for lost time. They've openly stated as much.
 
Trump was a speed bump. Hillary was supposed to foster it all along. Covid was the catalyst they needed to expedite the process and make up for lost time. They've openly stated as much.

He absolutely was. That's why they legit lost their minds when he won. It's why they hate him because he can win again and throw it all into question once more.
 
Trump did no such thing. The liberal bought and paid for media, followed every DNC narrative and talking point and pushed vitriol, hatred and divisiveness towards Trump from the moment he came down that escalator. (I've actually gone down that same escalator myself by the way.) Trump was constantly on the defensive. Could he have handled it better? In a lot of ways yes, but the divisiveness you saw was perpetuated by the media and democrat politicians spewing hatred, offensive, and inciteful remarks towards Trump, his supporters and Republicans in general that continues to this day.
Who is calling peaceful Americans who disagree with what's happening Terrorists? who is calling parents who want a say in what their children are being taught or mandated (masks, vaccines) Domestic Terrorists? Who is calling the Truckers Terrorists, White Supremacists, Nazis, Fascists? It's certainly not Republicans.
Anybody who doesn't see it this way cannot be taken seriously as an adult. IMO
 
When people visit the Aztec ruins, they take their smiling selfies on the the steps. Do they realize heads use to roll down those steps? We could go on for days about all the atrocities the world has experienced, but that is history and countries build from it. They don't use it as a deterrent to building loyalty, pride and honor to their country.

Toured the arena at Chichen Itza where they used heads to play a form of field hockey. Really cool.

Did you see that massive pyramid of skulls they just found in Mexico. It's pretty wild.


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Nope, I've already demonstrated that the fossil record says THE OPPOSITE.
It doesn’t. We have many clear examples of transitional fossils, from Archaeopteryx to cetacean evolution to Tiktaalik and the tetrapods. The tree of life is obvious. Go to any natural history museum and compare the fossils of dinosaurs to extant birds. Hell, the opening scene of Jurassic Park shows you.
 
This could be something to keep an eye on.

Former Ky. state rep. says daughter was killed in shooting. Investigation ongoing.

Evidently she was heavily involved with prosecuting human traffickers and was speaking out against the condemnation of conservative women's viewpoint in the media. Looks like more than a smash and grab too. The house she was in was a 6.5 million dollar home with a built in nuclear fallout shelter.

 
He said wolves, dogs, and coyotes. There are three different extant species of wolves. Coyotes are their own species.
Recombining genes doesn't add any genetic information, it simply exchanges it. That's NOT what evolution teaches; it teaches that we came from single celled amoebas. That's genetically IMPOSSIBLE, and MATHEMATICALLY impossible.
 
Again, forming a new species of finch or even primate is going to happen. How do you get from say, algae to fish without a never ending string of hypotheses. You don't. There is no real answer for abiogenisis.
You said it, a very slow, incremental process of change. Look at eyeballs. They’re complicated as heck, perform one very specific task, and it doesn’t work if just one small piece is removed. Such a complicated, interconnected system could never have just spontaneously arisen by chance! Because it didn’t. Eyeballs started out as nothing more than light sensitive molecules. Living things used the cells to gather information about their environment. Gathering that information allowed them to gather food faster than their competitors without those cells. It was an obvious advantage. So creatures with those cells reproduced more. More and more creatures had the cells and used them more frequently. The ones whose cells happened to be clustered in particular areas were able to get more information about their environment by gauging the difference between the sensitive and nonsensitive areas. This led to eyespots, clumps of light sensitive cells. As the animals moved these eyespots flexed. As they did they got different angles of light which gave them incrementally more information than flat eyespots. This was an advantage. Over time that led to curvature and lens. Which eventually led to orbs. Which led to muscles to rotate those orbs and sockets to hold them. Each step built on the previous one and was shaped naturally by circumstances of the environment. This evolutionary history is laid out crystal clear in the fossil record. And it’s just one example of MANY.
 
I don't think there's anything more divisive than identity politics. We see it everywhere including on this board. It's okay to have a set of beliefs but it's not okay to think someone is evil** just because their ideas are the opposite of one's own. That's where I was getting at replying to Gassy.

**unless it's actually evil, such as the calling for killing people.
Such as killing babies in the womb, old people at nursing homes, people who protect their businesses, releasing on bail people who attacked people with the intent or harming or killing them, having sex with children, taking Christianity out of schools but allowing Islam and Satan worship to continue, etc...there is a lot of evil in the world and not just one sided but, the left allows much more than the right.
 
Mean Tweets are the least of the reasons Trump was voted out. He was divisive as hell. He pitted Americans against one another and was only the President of the Red States of America.
Nobody was in love with Biden but saw him as the lesser of two evils. His attempt to overthrow the government and remain in power only solidified that choice.
And Trump calling Putin "saavy" and a "genius" during the worst military crisis in Europe since WW2 is pathetic boot licking. They are using Trump and Tucker Carlson clips on Russian state tv right now as examples of Putin being supported in America. F'ing pathetic.
Hopefully we have better choices in 2024. If it's Biden and Trump again....our country will just sink further toward failing democracy status. Both of them suck azz.
False. You and the lefts TDS blinded you to actual facts and the issues that really mean something.
 
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Recombining genes doesn't add any genetic information, it simply exchanges it. That's NOT what evolution teaches; it teaches that we came from single celled amoebas. That's genetically IMPOSSIBLE, and MATHEMATICALLY impossible.
You keep talking about this adding information. Random mutation is “information”. There’s a pond of turtles and one is born with a longer neck that can better reach hidden food. He mates and passes on the long neck to a few offspring. Now there’s a drought and only a handful of the many turtles survive. The few with the longer necks were better adapated so a higher percentage of them survive, meaning when the drought ends and the turtles repopulate many more will have longer necks than previously. “Information” was added. You can do the experiments yourself with fruit flies since they reproduce so quickly.
 
He said wolves, dogs, and coyotes. There are three different extant species of wolves. Coyotes are their own species.
False
It doesn’t. We have many clear examples of transitional fossils, from Archaeopteryx to cetacean evolution to Tiktaalik and the tetrapods. The tree of life is obvious. Go to any natural history museum and compare the fossils of dinosaurs to extant birds. Hell, the opening scene of Jurassic Park shows you.
Jurassic park?!?

Dinosaurs still exist bc they were on the TV screen ... lol.
 
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It doesn’t. We have many clear examples of transitional fossils, from Archaeopteryx to cetacean evolution to Tiktaalik and the tetrapods. The tree of life is obvious. Go to any natural history museum and compare the fossils of dinosaurs to extant birds. Hell, the opening scene of Jurassic Park shows you.
Wait wait wait...you're joking right? You actually believe that a sci fi MOVIE counts as evidence for evolution?

LOL

By the way...

Your precious Archaeopteryx has been debunked. You're relying on old information. I'm rather disappointed in you, I thought you were equipped to discuss this subject from a knowledgeable perspective.

A new find is forcing evolutionists to sideline Archaeopteryx and change their story. Chinese scientists recently discovered another creature with “feathers,” named Xiaotingia zhengi, which evolutionists view as older than Archaeopteryx, based on their old-age dating assumptions.

After comparing both of these creatures with modern birds and dinosaurs, the researchers concluded that neither is directly related to modern birds. In fact, they propose classifying both Archaeopteryx and Xiaotingia zhengi in the dinosaur group of Velociraptor (Deinonychosauria).
 
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There is ZERO EVIDENCE that a single species evolved into another. There is NO evolutionist that can show where this happened - they are all guessing. Even YOU admit you are guessing.

Actually, the fossil records DISPROVE evolution.

The gaps in the fossil record are huge and systematic. This is evidence against incremental evolution via mutation and natural selection - just as you claim absence of evidence is proof there is no God, so your own logic is used against you to show that lack of evidence in THIS case actually DOES disprove evolution, as scientific evidence is REQUIRED to validate a theory. There is no postulated mechanism for creatures to evolve over these chasms. Really, truly — there is no scientific theory at all to account for the hopeless gaps of a naturalistic worldview.

An honest assessment of evolution would lead one to the conclusion that fossils should show a near-infinite series of creatures from simple to complex. If fossils are abundant in nature, then there should be no problem in finding a multitude of transitional forms for all of the animal and plant life on the earth today. In fact, many evolutionists admit the abundance – the enormous wealth – of fossils of creatures that once lived.

So WHERE ARE THE TRANSITIONAL FORMS?


What is embarrassing is that the rule – not the exception – is that between the various classes of animals, both living and dead, are huge gaps. The transitional forms are absent. We regularly see the latest news story describing the latest potential “missing link” in the enigma of human evolution. But nothing ever gets settled. The advocates of human evolution can’t agree among themselves, not to mention present a case that would be compelling at all to a dispassionate observer.

The famous evolutionary paleontologist, Niles Eldridge, has admitted, “We paleontologists have said that the history of life supports (the idea of gradual evolutionary change), all the while knowing it does not.” Eldridge observes that those paleontologists who report that the data are inconsistent with the “theory” are relegated to the lunatic fringe of the community.

Why are evolutionists so tenacious in the face of an unsupportable “theory”? Because they are committed to naturalistic materialism. They won’t accept the possibility that God exists or that anything cannot be explained by natural physical processes.

Some evolutionists have given up on the idea of the random mutation / natural selection neo-Darwinian “theory” and suggested the idea of “punctuated equilibrium” in a desperate attempt to explain the fossil gaps. The idea is that when evolution occurred, lots of genes mutated very quickly and within a very few generations a new creature was “born.” The mathematics of this approach are so frightening, however, that some traditional evolutionists suspect that “punctuated equilibrium” was actually a joke when it was first introduced.
fossils are not abundant in nature. It is very rare for a species to be preserved as a fossil. it is even more rare for someone to find that preserved fossil. hundreds of billions of creatures have died over earths history, a tiny tiny tiny fraction of a percent are preserved. We have gathered a small handful of these. Their are plenty of examples of transitional fossils, you are just to close minded to research them. Google Archaeopteryx, pakicetus, pezosiren. Thanks to modern genome mapping it is much easier now to link fossils. We have sequenceable DNA from a 45,000 year old Neanderthal, modern humans still carry a small amount of that DNA.
Are you trying to claim that God just inserts new species throughout earths history? They just magically poof into existence when he gets bored of the old ones? Its pretty obvious you went to a hardcore religious indoctrination school and fully bought in.
You can call it something other than evolution if you like. But it is an undisputable fact that species change over time. Some do it more rapidly and some do it more drastically.
 
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There is ZERO EVIDENCE that a single species evolved into another. There is NO evolutionist that can show where this happened - they are all guessing. Even YOU admit you are guessing.

Actually, the fossil records DISPROVE evolution.

The gaps in the fossil record are huge and systematic. This is evidence against incremental evolution via mutation and natural selection - just as you claim absence of evidence is proof there is no God, so your own logic is used against you to show that lack of evidence in THIS case actually DOES disprove evolution, as scientific evidence is REQUIRED to validate a theory. There is no postulated mechanism for creatures to evolve over these chasms. Really, truly — there is no scientific theory at all to account for the hopeless gaps of a naturalistic worldview.

An honest assessment of evolution would lead one to the conclusion that fossils should show a near-infinite series of creatures from simple to complex. If fossils are abundant in nature, then there should be no problem in finding a multitude of transitional forms for all of the animal and plant life on the earth today. In fact, many evolutionists admit the abundance – the enormous wealth – of fossils of creatures that once lived.

So WHERE ARE THE TRANSITIONAL FORMS?


What is embarrassing is that the rule – not the exception – is that between the various classes of animals, both living and dead, are huge gaps. The transitional forms are absent. We regularly see the latest news story describing the latest potential “missing link” in the enigma of human evolution. But nothing ever gets settled. The advocates of human evolution can’t agree among themselves, not to mention present a case that would be compelling at all to a dispassionate observer.

The famous evolutionary paleontologist, Niles Eldridge, has admitted, “We paleontologists have said that the history of life supports (the idea of gradual evolutionary change), all the while knowing it does not.” Eldridge observes that those paleontologists who report that the data are inconsistent with the “theory” are relegated to the lunatic fringe of the community.

Why are evolutionists so tenacious in the face of an unsupportable “theory”? Because they are committed to naturalistic materialism. They won’t accept the possibility that God exists or that anything cannot be explained by natural physical processes.

Some evolutionists have given up on the idea of the random mutation / natural selection neo-Darwinian “theory” and suggested the idea of “punctuated equilibrium” in a desperate attempt to explain the fossil gaps. The idea is that when evolution occurred, lots of genes mutated very quickly and within a very few generations a new creature was “born.” The mathematics of this approach are so frightening, however, that some traditional evolutionists suspect that “punctuated equilibrium” was actually a joke when it was first introduced.
Are you kidding? The far left came from asses. Think the science is settled on that.
 
You keep talking about this adding information. Random mutation is “information”. There’s a pond of turtles and one is born with a longer neck that can better reach hidden food. He mates and passes on the long neck to a few offspring. Now there’s a drought and only a handful of the many turtles survive. The few with the longer necks were better adapated so a higher percentage of them survive, meaning when the drought ends and the turtles repopulate many more will have longer necks than previously. “Information” was added. You can do the experiments yourself with fruit flies since they reproduce so quickly.
The longer neck is not new information. Your examples dont prove what you think they do. Also, suppose your religion is true, why do we lose function and not gain function?

If humans used to have tails, wby do we still not have tails? Because that would be darn useful.
 
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