Nice story but a mediocre team with the gift of an easy schedule. No business getting in. An sec school deserved that spot.
Playoff Indiana @ Notre Dame
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And SMUs spot. Also, 16th ranked Clemson got in over teams ranked ahead of them n rankings. It's a BS rules system at present.
I think a lot of folks sold out to get this playoff off the ground. Teams should be seeded by their ranking.
Alright Georgia,, now go and kick ND's azz.
Beck's being out gives me some concern though. Hopefully their back up can lead them to a W.
Beck's being out gives me some concern though. Hopefully their back up can lead them to a W.
Then get rid of the conference championship game. The ones who run these conferences don’t want to do that because of the money involved so they’re not going to make them less important by just giving teams who couldn’t even finish top two in their conference a bye. You have to incentivize conference champ and reward it.
Get rid of the byes entirely and just make it 16 and be done with it. Problem solved.
100% agree with moving to 16. Take the best 16 teams. If there are 6 conference champs n the 16, cool. If only 4 one season, cool.
I don't care if Bama didnt' get in over these teams. Maybe they shouldn't have lost to Vandy or played like dog water against Oklahoma. They only knocked themselves out. If they went 10-2 they would've gotten in.
He caught Michigan in a down year. Penn State, OSU, Michigan and Oregon will not forget how he ran his mouth.
So u are ok with teams with 0 quality wins getting in over a 3 loss SC, Alabama or Ole Miss? Because that's what happened with smu and Indiana.
They are frauds so 1 down 1 to go tomorrow. I'll tell u who was happiest about IU and smu getting n. Notre Dame and Penn state.
Their program is dog crap. Making this 1 playoff bid is gonna be their high point until they die.
Unpopular opinion, but yes. If you can’t do any better than 5th or 6th place in your conference during a 12 game regular season, you don’t deserve a shot at a national championship just because you had a good win at some point. Put the best 2 or at most 3 teams from each conference in and let the chips fall where they may. There’s no point in having a conference season and then a playoff if you want all of the playoff teams to come from the same conference.
Yep, they're already saying just that. PRINT THE POPCORN BOXES BABY! They have "The Shot" and now this. Man, so elite.
Those teams beat who was on their schedule. I know some people here just want to turn everything into the SEC invitational but it's not going to be like that. But the other issue is SMU and Indiana had zero margin for error with those schedules and they got through them. So its a double edged sword. If IU had dropped one of their games or SMU had dropped an ACC conference game they are sitting at home and out of the playoff (and they shouldn't have been punished for playing an extra game for a conference title while Bama sat at home).
If Bama hadn't gotten blown out by a terrible Oklahoma team they'd be in this playoff and probably playing tomorrow. If Ole Miss hadn't lost to us when we had a god awful team this year they'd be in too.
People that are like "Well you have to look beyond record and evaluate talent for the best teams" miss the big picture. If that's the case, then why even play the regular season at all? But If Bama was supposed to be so good this year they wouldn't have lost two highly questionable games that took them out of the running. Again, zero sympathy. When your argument is "We were the 13th team left out of the playoff" that's just laughable.
Respect the opinion. I just don't care for these dog crap matchups. When you let in 4 frauds (Indiana, smu, Boise and Arizona state), no one can whine when the games are boring.
Indiana isnt to blame. Its the committee. You just cant put such a weak schedule in especially after they were clearly outclassed by osu in the only meaningful competition they faced.
I get the argument about playing the games in front of them but thats moot if they win their conference. Conference champs getting in is how you weed out that argument and why i have no issue with that rule, although I don't think they should get an auto bye.
The sos is so important because it takes into account the total grind of the season which is insanely brutal in the sec. In the sec there are no easy wins and every road game is all out war. There is an attrition factor noone else has to deal with.
Imo it should've been ole miss. Ya they lost to uk but that was a different uk team (back to the attrition). Plus the eye test and h2h says they are better than sc.
I didnt read all the comments here but I was thoroughly unimpressed by ND's QB , I started watching in 2nd Q .. kid had happy feet thru the 4th Q . Passing game looked very routine ... hope Ga smashes them bad .
I don’t care out of fairness or anything per se but I do want these games to be worth of the playoff. I mean Alabama or ole Miss or SC might have lost but they darn sure would’ve had a chance to win it. IU did not. And I say that with respect for the coaching job they did this year and how they compete. They were maxed out but just don’t have enough bullets to challenge in a game like this…the best they can do is ‘keep the score respectable’
Can always tell the intelligence of a person when they use”woke”. What does that even mean in this context?
For the way people have been talking about IU on here, 10 points seems pretty competitive.
ND had been blowing teams out.
Well Clemson played 2 SEC teams, got boat raced v/s Georgia 34-3, lost at home to SC. Bama beat Georgia and SC. So,,,, I stated 4 teams, Clemson, SMU, Indiana, and Boise State was NOT one of the 12 best teams. Yes Bama lost @ Oklahoma and @ Vandy, but playing solid teams EVERY week takes a toll on teams. it is hard to get up every week in conference. When you get what looks like a easier game (Vandy / Oklahoma), teams tend to let up a bit. Where as Indiana and the other teams had easier games every other week. The main question you have to ask yourself "IF those teams played Bama's schedule, would they be 9-3 ?" The answer is NO. It is not as much about who Bama lost to, but who those other 4 teams beat.
Bama beat Georgia (11-2, SEC champs), SC (9-3), Missouri (9-3), and a very dangerous LSU (8-4) at LSU. Those other 4 teams does NOT have ONE win equal to those, much less 4.
Herbie said IU was outclassed. Which is a nice way of saying that they had no business being in the CFP.
10 points was not at all competitive. Notre Dame was up by 24 with about two minutes left and gave up two garbage scores after the game was well decided.
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They compete and are well coached. But it was also the same feel of the osu game where even if they play their best they just don’t have enough. Some of the score is them scratching and clawing the whole game and a bit is ND playing smart with the lead the second. My point is that while ole miss or Bama may not be as consistent as other teams we do know that they can go out there and win against these teams.
First thing they should do is go back to divisions so that it’s typically going to be 2 teams that haven’t played in the season playing for conference championships and results will have some additional info to add for seeding or making playoffs.
I get all of the arguments against. At the same time I want to see playoff games with teams that have a chance to win. I don’t have interest in seeing Penn state play someone that can’t muster enough even if they do their best. If they play ole Miss today I’m not thinking ‘ole Miss lost to Uk’
Everything has been chalk. This isn’t some BCS title game where a team got smoked and that’s that. The higher ranked seed has won each game like they were supposed to. So 9-12 has been inconsequential as it usually will be.
You will have to play a good team to win it all so first round means jack.
Folks I get it. There are a lot of good teams out there who had tough roads.
However we can’t be arguing points don’t count in specific games and overall that all the points IU scored and games they won don’t matter as much.
That’s faulty logic. Points and wins are literally the only two things that count. Sports are score boards and win columns.
Our points and wins against OOC, a down UL, a down east throughout CMS’ tenure have counted.
If the powers to be wanted a true tournament of strictly the best teams they’d have kept it 4 games, maybe expanded to 6 or 8.
Heck, go back further to just 2 teams. Let an unbiased algorithm calculate who the best two teams are. If you want something that is truly for only the deserving and best. Essentially whoever is ranked 1 and 2 at the end of the season fight it out.
The issue of the old way wasn’t whether or not the best teams were getting in. Only the very best teams got in. The issue was whether or not enough teams were getting in.
More broader in terms of interest/ratings/marketing, was the sport becoming too regional? It was.
The ratings and money made this year will bare that out.
I honestly don't get the IU hate. You play the games on your schedule.
I'm over Antoine Randel El
I'm over Antoine Randel El
IU lost by less than any other visitor.
This round shows the ridiculousness of anything more than an 8 teams playoff. The 9th team can whine about not getting in but they have no chance. Last two days was evidence of the waste of those games. Good way to kill future ratings.
Iu was effectively shut out until the last 90-120 seconds when they scored a meaningless td then scored another after an onside kick. They were dominated from jump by a mediocre nd team.
Smu was way more competitive on the whole. Smu, like ut, basically had a qb meltdown which made it impossible to win. Smu pitched practically a shut out for most of the game. Of course psu is very mediocre too especially from a speed and talent standpoint.
From a speed and talent standpoint, osu was the best team that played yesterday besides texas. One can even argue they are comparable to texas with ewers behind center. With Manning at qb, texas is the best team in the nation.
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