Going to be fun to watch. Tennessee @ Ohio State - Indiana @ Notre Dame- Clemson @ Texas- SMU @ Penn State no Alabama or Miami
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Thoughts overall:
Oregon got screwed. Tougher path to semis than the 5 or 6 seed.
Texas and Clemson could be a good game.
Osu vs TN as well.
Penn state will roll SMU.
Actually think ND is the type of team IU can hang with.
I think Georgia has a nice path to the title game if Beck is healthy and plays better.
Other thoughts: glad every ESPN analyst agreed giving the 9th ranked mid major team and 12th ranked team a bye is goofy and that the rules need to change asap to give it to the top 4 teams.
Oregon got screwed. Tougher path to semis than the 5 or 6 seed.
Texas and Clemson could be a good game.
Osu vs TN as well.
Penn state will roll SMU.
Actually think ND is the type of team IU can hang with.
I think Georgia has a nice path to the title game if Beck is healthy and plays better.
Other thoughts: glad every ESPN analyst agreed giving the 9th ranked mid major team and 12th ranked team a bye is goofy and that the rules need to change asap to give it to the top 4 teams.
I don’t personally care about Bama getting in or not but I am not a fan of anything that gives reasons to dumb down ooc schedules. If you don’t have cross conference games it gives you even less information to compare teams at the end of the year for who get in and in what spot.
You can’t really feel that Arizona State deserves the 4 seed and a first round bye?
Or Boise State. It's gonna change so the other poster can get over it.
Can't believe I'm saying this but "Go Buckeyes". (Washes mouth out with Scope)
Texas and Penn State are gonna bitch slap your fake top 4 teams.
The NFL playoffs has division winners get a home playoff game. Under the rules that all of these conferences agreed upon, they did what they were supposed to do. It's not going to be the same every year. Some time a conference will have a really good team. Sometimes it won't. You can't give teams who didn't even win their own conference a 'bye.'
This isn't the NFL.
Look for the bye rules to be changed for next season or 2026 at latest.
I have no clue how the Big Ten gets 4 teams in, ACC gets 3 including an absolutely horrible SMU team comparatively, and the SEC only gets 3 teams. I get Alabama has 3 losses but you throw SMU, Indiana, Notre Dame or most any other team outside of maybe Ohio State and Oregon into that schedule they have at least 3 losses. There is absolutely no coincidence that the chairman is the AD at Michigan so it is what it is. Bama shot themselves in the foot multiple times this year so they put themselves in the position to get overlooked.
Fair point about the NFL, but I compare to other college sports. The best teams get the best seeds. The fact the #5 seed has an easier path than the #1 seed speaks volumes to how it doesn’t make sense.
Why can’t you give teams that didn’t win their conference a bye?
After all the smoke clears, not sure the 12 team playoff is going to end up much different than the CFP, this morning I looked at the odds on Caesar and 8 of the top 9 choices had all played in either the BCS or CFP championship game, and the 9th was Penn State who has been a blue blood for many decades.
Oregon's offense is going to be a problem for whoever they face, really really top end speed, and a great QB and great coaching.
However, don't think they play defense well enough to win it all. Texas and Georgia's defense gonna be a big problem for whoever they play as well.
Dark horse at 30 or 35 to 1, is Tennessee. I probably would bet Texas at about 4-1 or so. Think some of the teams that skipped the conference championship games got a bit of a break, those were very hard hitting intense games, Georgia lost their punter and maybe their QB, while Vols, Irish and Bucks took a week off.
OTOH, the bottom group of SMU, IU, Boise and Arizona State at 40 or 50 to 1, would have to say they have about the same chance, or less, as your typical 50-1 shot in the Breeders Cup Classic, or even less, since they have to win at least three straight games. Miracles do happen but would take a series of miracles, IMO.
Don't see why a top 4 seed could not be a runner up in a conference. What if two SEC teams were undefeated and ranked 1 and 2, the loser of the SECCG should be a 5 or 6 seed???
Finally, Alabama got what they deserved, lose to two 6-6 teams (once by three TDs!!!!) and you have no business in the playoff.
Oregon's offense is going to be a problem for whoever they face, really really top end speed, and a great QB and great coaching.
However, don't think they play defense well enough to win it all. Texas and Georgia's defense gonna be a big problem for whoever they play as well.
Dark horse at 30 or 35 to 1, is Tennessee. I probably would bet Texas at about 4-1 or so. Think some of the teams that skipped the conference championship games got a bit of a break, those were very hard hitting intense games, Georgia lost their punter and maybe their QB, while Vols, Irish and Bucks took a week off.
OTOH, the bottom group of SMU, IU, Boise and Arizona State at 40 or 50 to 1, would have to say they have about the same chance, or less, as your typical 50-1 shot in the Breeders Cup Classic, or even less, since they have to win at least three straight games. Miracles do happen but would take a series of miracles, IMO.
Don't see why a top 4 seed could not be a runner up in a conference. What if two SEC teams were undefeated and ranked 1 and 2, the loser of the SECCG should be a 5 or 6 seed???
Finally, Alabama got what they deserved, lose to two 6-6 teams (once by three TDs!!!!) and you have no business in the playoff.
I wouldn't have as big an issue if they guaranteed the conference champs get a home game if not ranked in top 4. That way you reward Boise and Arizona State but Texas and Penn state get the last 2 byes.
Hoping it goes to 16 teams and it's ranked 1 to 16 on merit and not the politics of winning mid major conferences.
Why should a team be rewarded for a bye when they couldn’t even win their own division or conference? That’s crazy to me. If you wanna get rid of conference title games (which I 100% support) then go for that but this is the most fair thing.
It’s not “Hey let’s give three SEC teams a bye cause we think they’re the best.”
The entire top part of the bracket is loaded while the bottom half is Georgia’s for the taking. But then again, this team needed a miracle to beat Georgia Tech.
It would be 2 big 10 and 2 sec teams that deserved the bye. You seem to hate the sec a lot for a guy that's team plays n it.
By the way, bowl games other than playoffs will be a total joke, will even half the starters for teams like Alabama elect to play?
It's like that because of the system you are defending. If they seeded teams based on merit it would be more spread out.
If I can beat the crap out of every 5 year old in the world and never take on anyone older it doesn't make me heavyweight champion of the world.
As long as college football retains its current structure with 134 teams in the FBS division playing 12 game schedules, there’s always going to be enough schedule imbalances that there’s a subjective/political element to ranking teams “on merit”. If anything, winning a conference championship is one of the few fairly objective criteria you can use. I know some conferences are going to be tougher to win than others in a given year, but I actually don’t mind rewarding conference champions with better seeding. I like the season results to actually still mean a little something instead of basically picking the playoff field purely on paper.
In vs nd was an absolute gift to each team. Same with psu and smu.
Bama or sc should've been in over smu. No way the acc deserves two teams in. No way. It was anti sec bias.
I consider the Oklahoma loss worse that Vandy.
FCS football has had playoffs since the late 70’s. When byes came into play, it was the top ranked teams, regardless if they won their conference or not…I think that’s the way to go.
The title game themself are an opportunity for a team like Arizona State and Clemson to play themselves into the CFP, so they served their purpose in that regard.
And I’m not an SEC guy..I’m a UK guy. I do not care how many teams make it from each conference. IMO, if you want to see who the best team is, you also are consistent with how you set up the bracket. Don’t give the 5th seed an advantage over the 1 seed because they get an easier hand based on a rule about conference champions.
I may be wrong, but I believe ASU was picked to finish last in their conference.
An amazing season for them …
An amazing season for them …
You always think you can play games on paper when time and time again that’s proven incorrectly. “I’m awesome cause I’m in the SEC” is faulty logic.
You never would’ve thought Bama would lose to Vanderbilt or Oklahoma yet you automatically think they’d blow everyone else out?
“I’m the fastest kid in the world cause I beat everyone on my block and no one else could possibly be faster than the kids I race on my block.”
Yep…they were picked 16th out of 16 teams. Amazing season!
They had 4 teams finish 7-2. Here they are with their preseason prediction:
Arizona State - 16
BYU - 13
Colorado - 11
Iowa State - 6
They had 4 teams finish 2-7 or worse. Here they are with their preseason prediction:
Utah - 1
Arizona - 5
UCF - 8
Okie State - 3
That is the transfer portal effect at its finest
How exactly can one fairly assess someone who didn’t play the same teams or conference? It’s all bias. All of it.
“This team is good cause they beat this team.” Okay so what makes that team good? It’s all circular crap.
College football is about the only one who wants to have an entire postseason based on the bias of a committee. Even in baseball, you could be the second best team in baseball but the best team is in your division so you’re going to be a wildcard team on the road. Same with wildcard teams in the NFL.
And that’s what this is- a wildcard.
College football, college baseball, college lacrosse, college soccer, college basketball and on and on.….all of it is based on the bias of a committee. I’m not sure there is a college team sport where the bias of a committee doesn’t affect the postseason. I don’t know why you keep bringing up pro sports in your argument when you just need to look across the landscape of college team sports to realize FBS football is an outlier with this approach.
I’ve got no problems with conference champions getting an automatic bid, just like in every other team sport in college. But, I believe FBS football is the only one of those sports that rewards a teams seed based on them winning a conference championship.
Is there another college team sport that does it that way? What am I missing in our debate that college football is all alone in using committees and having bias?
I follow the three big sports in college and have no idea about lacrosse or hockey. But baseball and basketball don’t have byes.
Football is the only sport where it wants to shut everyone out except for a select few. That’s what makes it unique to me. The big boys want to get every single advantage imaginable.
And if these teams are terrible then it should be an easy win for the better team. You have to incentivize conference champs as a priority or do away with the conferences entirely which they won’t do.
Truth is, I’d like to see the SEC go on the road in bad weather. I also have no issue seeing three loss Bama teams not make the playoff after their BS inclusion last year.
Football is the only sport where it wants to shut everyone out except for a select few. That’s what makes it unique to me. The big boys want to get every single advantage imaginable.
And if these teams are terrible then it should be an easy win for the better team. You have to incentivize conference champs as a priority or do away with the conferences entirely which they won’t do.
Truth is, I’d like to see the SEC go on the road in bad weather. I also have no issue seeing three loss Bama teams not make the playoff after their BS inclusion last year.
TCU beat Michigan the game before- the team that beat Ohio State handedly which blew the game against Georgia in the semis.
Truth is, no one knows for sure and it’s all about matchups sometime. We just saw Georgia needed a comeback to get to OT to beat Ga Tech.
Literally anything can happen in this playoff.
Haven't read all post but Beck is out, torn UCL.
I agree Bama didn't deserve to be there, UT was a "quality loss" but the other 2 were to 6 loss teams and 1 was a blow out.
Right now seeing OR & Uga at 7-2 & OSU at 4-1 & TX at 9-2. Pretty dang tight for those. TN is 25-1.
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