That’s a tough loss. Although the backup looked good, teams can now put together their game plan on him.
College Football Playoff
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By college football playoff committee rules, they can’t possibly win so they should be excluded from the playoffs.
That’s what was said a year ago.
I guess UGA didn't make any adjustments and shut OSU down the 2nd have. Do you realize tech's QB missed 3 games and they were 7-2 with him? UGA isn't word beaters and have played to their opposition all year other than OM. But they did it 10 times this season. As for the OSU game you proudly point to, UGA made adjustments and shut them down 2nd half, is that what coaches are suppose to do? Or keep doing the same thing that isn't working.
“Impossible. Can’t possibly win with a backup QB so Georgia should be excluded from the playoffs.” - If ESPN wasn’t a propaganda mouthpiece
The point was a rebuttal to the “no one could possibly compete with anyone from the SEC” crowd.
They covered all the necessary markets and demographics, which was the whole point of the expansion.
First year, they're kind of experimenting and I think the ratings will let them know how to seed next year.
IU v ND is curious. Two teams from the same state. Not sure that's the match up everyone envisioned or wanted for Notre Dame. Probably nit picking here but that game may get the lowest ratings. Again, first year hic-ups, so I'm sure the committee will use all the ratings/information/washout from this season to adjust going forwar.
As for Bama, Ole Miss and SEC boo hooers...What do you all want 5 f8cking SEC teams in there? Nobody wants to watch that.
Tide lost 3, two were very lack luster opponents.
Rebs, ya lost to UK. If you can't score more than Mark Stoops, you ain't going to hang with the track meet, basketball score, offensive masterminds that are in the play offs...
First year, they're kind of experimenting and I think the ratings will let them know how to seed next year.
IU v ND is curious. Two teams from the same state. Not sure that's the match up everyone envisioned or wanted for Notre Dame. Probably nit picking here but that game may get the lowest ratings. Again, first year hic-ups, so I'm sure the committee will use all the ratings/information/washout from this season to adjust going forwar.
As for Bama, Ole Miss and SEC boo hooers...What do you all want 5 f8cking SEC teams in there? Nobody wants to watch that.
Tide lost 3, two were very lack luster opponents.
Rebs, ya lost to UK. If you can't score more than Mark Stoops, you ain't going to hang with the track meet, basketball score, offensive masterminds that are in the play offs...
Win your conference and you get in. The teams that are in, then get seeded based on their rankings. Arizona State deserves to be in but certainly not seeded higher than Texas, TN. Both would take Arizona State to he woodshed. Texas, 5th seed has a much easier path to get to championship game than #1 seed Oregon. Just a screwed up mess. Bama got left out as did South Carolina and they are much better than several teams in the playoff. Bosie State could not come close to beating Bama or South Carolina but they and Arizona State got seeded like they are the 3rd & 4 best team in the country. I think we could beat Bosie State.
I’ll use the pro game as an example as well. the NFC South has sucked for the last few years. A second or third place team in the other division may have a better record than them yet the division champ gets the home game. The reality is, you want byes for your SEC teams based on nothing other than “deez are da best” cause I say so.
“Boise State could not come close to beating Bama.” Dude, Bama lost to freaking Vanderbilt. The truth is none of you have a crystal ball and simply believe no one could ever win against any SEC team. It’s all speculative nonsense based on bias and nothing more.
When one of these teams inevitably beats a big boy in the playoff then I’m sure there will be an excuse as there always is. When Utah beat Saban’s Bama team; the excuse was “Well they didn’t care.”
Well idk about the last sentence but agree with a lot of what you said.
If we seeded based on the 12 best you would have the below rankings I'd say. I'm also eliminating byes for cupcake conference champs and just seeding how it would have been.
1. Oregon
2. Georgia
3. Texas
4. Penn state
5. Notre Dame
6. Osu
7. UT
8. Indiana
9. Boise st
10. Smu
11. Alabama
12. Arizona state.
And the 1 seed would have an easier path ranking them by the best teams. Imagine that. Indiana or Boise and then Penn state or ND. Oregon would avoid all sec teams and OSU until title game.
There’s no one who should be upset about being excluded. This is the result of the regular season and conference championships mattering. Miami is the closest one to having a case with barely losing two games.
No one should weep for any team not good enough to reach their own conference title game. That means you weren’t even one of the two best teams in your conference yet you get to compete for the best team in the nation? Ridiculous to me.
Also want to say- with a playoff, please for the love of God, get rid of the pointless games like playing Mercer and Eastern Michigan.
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First look, I love the underdogs, already down on SMU (+8.5) and Indiana (+7.5), holding off on Tennessee at the moment, they are +7.5 but vig has moved to 120, not betting 60 to win 50, hoping the line will move
Do not like Clemson, can't see them winning in Austin and try never to bet on underdogs that I don't think can win the game straight up
Also bet Army -5 over Navy [EDIT: Line has now moved to -7]
Do not like Clemson, can't see them winning in Austin and try never to bet on underdogs that I don't think can win the game straight up
Also bet Army -5 over Navy [EDIT: Line has now moved to -7]
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Boise State has a generational talent at RB, they have played giant killers before and are more then capable of pulling an upset
Boise State lost on a last second field goal to Oregon this year. They are a top 12 team IMO. They would spank UK.
The only thing I would tweak is that the 4 top ranked conference champions do not get a bye. I've got no issues with the 5 automatic bids, but it shouldn't award you a bye. No other college sport does that in the tournament/playoffs. This is what it should have looked like:
Round 1
12 seed Clemson at 5 seed Notre Dame
11 seed Arizona State at 6 seed Ohio State
10 seed SMU at 7 seed Tennessee
9 seed Boise State at 8 seed Indiana
Quarterfinals
1 seed Oregon vs Boise State/Indiana winner
2 seed Georgia vs SMU/Tennessee winner
3 seed Texas vs Arizona State/Ohio State winner
4 seed Penn State vs Clemson/Notre Dame winner
Round 1
12 seed Clemson at 5 seed Notre Dame
11 seed Arizona State at 6 seed Ohio State
10 seed SMU at 7 seed Tennessee
9 seed Boise State at 8 seed Indiana
Quarterfinals
1 seed Oregon vs Boise State/Indiana winner
2 seed Georgia vs SMU/Tennessee winner
3 seed Texas vs Arizona State/Ohio State winner
4 seed Penn State vs Clemson/Notre Dame winner
I agree with this. It also rewards Oregon with an easier path. Oregon got screwed in the current format.
Do not know if In agree with your "Oregon defense may not be good enough" thinking. Defensive ranks for Texas, Oregon, and Georgia :
Texas - Rushing 106.7 per game (15th) / Passing 143.1 (1st) / Overall 3rd
Oregon - Rushing 126.2 (35th) / Passing 175.7 (12th) / Overall 11th
Georgia - Rushing 128.3 (36th) / Passing 208.7 (50th) / Overall 36th
Or Oklahoma. But they did beat Georgia, SC, @ Wisconsin 42-10, Mizzou 34-0, @ LSU 42-13. Lost @ Vandy by 5 and @ UT by a TD. What good wins did Indiana and SMU have ? SMU lost at home to BYU. Best win is probably @ Louisville LOL. Indiana played 1 (ONE) ranked team and got smoke, OSU. Best win is Michigan by 5.
Indiana wins :
FIU 4-8
W. IL 4-8
UCLA 5-7
Charlotte 5-7
Maryland 4-8
Nebraska 6-6
Washington 6-6
Mich State 5-7
Purdue 1-11
Michigan 7-5 - only team they beat with a winning record. LOL and people talk about Alabama losing to Vandy and Oklahoma ? Ask yourself, IF Indiana or SMU played Alabama's schedule, would they be 9-3 like Alabama, or worse ???? Same for SMU. We all know the answer, they did not get the best 12 teams in the playoffs, just the best 12 based off simply wins / losses, not who to or who they beat to get them. If you punish Bama for losing to 2 6-6 teams ON THE ROAD, punish them 2 by NOT playing anybody good. It is hard to get up for big games every week, when you finally get a lesser team (Vandy / Oklahoma), it is human nature to ease up a bit. Just like us in basketball though, Bama is everyone's super bowl. Playing ONE ranked team and losing, is not as good as playing 8 ranked teams week in and week out. It takes a toll thru the year. IF Alabama played Indiana's or SMU's schedule and they played Alabama's, we wouldn't be having these discussions.
Everyone knows what you said is correct.
It was all politics in the first 12 team playoff.
The field will expand to 14 or even 16 soon, and look for conference champs to be seed by playoff ranking once that happens.
16 let's Alabama, Miami, sc and ole miss in and you eliminate the byes that is of such debate in this thread and nationally. Big 12 probably bitches but who cares. They are a glorified mid major conference now anyways.
Should have been 16 with no byes this round. But Bama has gotten the benefit more than once, it's time they got the short end of the stick, don't put yourself in the position to need the committee to put you in.
The playoff will never be perfect but for all those in favor of the SEC and Big Ten splitting off this is why they won’t. Every time zone has teams. The SEC and Big Ten will have 3-4 spots each year. The matchups are great. I still think you reward conference champs. The only tweak I would make is 2 rounds should be at home. Oregon as a 1 seed may end up in TX playing TX.
To avoid the bias give each Power 4 conference the same number of AQ. The reality the NC probably coming from the top 1-2 teams in the power 4. This whole our conference needs more participation than others is silly. That is what will water down the regular season. It also protects the SEC from eating themselves. The best teams are going to have to scratch and claw to not lose 2-3 games each year.
Let’s say they expand to 16. Let’s say the AQ for each power 4 conference is 4 teams. There is no more arguing. Alabama, South Carolina or Ole Miss get in based of conference tie breakers. Send your best 4 teams to the playoff. Then seed. You can throw in Power 5 or Notre Dame to still a spot or have a play in game. Does the SEC or Big Ten really need 1 more team? No because their top 2 teams will probably make the finals every year.
It is equitable which will ultimately lead to the ACC and Big 12 conferences improving. Which is really good for the sport as a whole. Not sure it will impact who wins the title but the sport as a whole is better.
To avoid the bias give each Power 4 conference the same number of AQ. The reality the NC probably coming from the top 1-2 teams in the power 4. This whole our conference needs more participation than others is silly. That is what will water down the regular season. It also protects the SEC from eating themselves. The best teams are going to have to scratch and claw to not lose 2-3 games each year.
Let’s say they expand to 16. Let’s say the AQ for each power 4 conference is 4 teams. There is no more arguing. Alabama, South Carolina or Ole Miss get in based of conference tie breakers. Send your best 4 teams to the playoff. Then seed. You can throw in Power 5 or Notre Dame to still a spot or have a play in game. Does the SEC or Big Ten really need 1 more team? No because their top 2 teams will probably make the finals every year.
It is equitable which will ultimately lead to the ACC and Big 12 conferences improving. Which is really good for the sport as a whole. Not sure it will impact who wins the title but the sport as a whole is better.
Fair points, but speaking of points, here is what I am looking at specifically:
Oregon 37, Boise State 34
Oregon 32, Ohio State 31
Oregon 45, Penn State 37
That is three playoff teams and Ducks have given up 34 PPG, I don't think that trend will keep working all through the playoffs
It will until someone can score more than them or stop them. All 3 teams you listed had solid defenses and they couldn't do it. Georgia has given up some big point games also. Texas is not that great of an offense, so that is a little deceiving.
Georgia gave up 41 to Alabama, 31 to a horrible Miss. State team, it was the most points State scored all year other than 56 v/s EKU and 45 v/s UMASS. They also gave 42 to Georgia Tech and was VERY lucky to win.
Texas is legit, but somewhat of a SOFT schedule.
It’s easy to just say that to make a point about last year but here’s the nuance. The UGA backup played the second half of a tight 50/50 game vs the no 2 team and the team won. He was 12/16 for 71 yards for the half. And wasn’t prepped during the week to be the starter. Showing that they can at least still compete at the highest level. FSU played a UL team that just lost to a mediocre UK team and gave up 38 …while fsu struggled to move the ball at all. The qb prepped to start and went 8/21 for 55 yards for an entire game.
Not all conferences are the same. The B12 is a shell of its former self since Texas and Oklahoma left. ASU beat BYU and ISU, both of which have their "best" win against K St. Arguably Iowa (for ISU). Not exactly murders row in terms of competition.
If you look at the latest AP poll top 12:
1 Oregon
2 GA
3 ND
4 TX
5 Penn St
6 Ohio St
7 Tenn
8 Boise St
9 IU
10 Arizona St
11 Bama
12 SMU
Using these we'd have SMU at Penn St, Bama at Ohio St, Arizona St at Tenn and IU at Boise St.
If higher seeds all win then we'd have :
Oregon vs Boise, GA vs Tenn, ND vs Ohio St and TX vs Penn St.
I just don't like conference champions getting automatic bye. What if it's a lousy or weaker conference.
1 Oregon
2 GA
3 ND
4 TX
5 Penn St
6 Ohio St
7 Tenn
8 Boise St
9 IU
10 Arizona St
11 Bama
12 SMU
Using these we'd have SMU at Penn St, Bama at Ohio St, Arizona St at Tenn and IU at Boise St.
If higher seeds all win then we'd have :
Oregon vs Boise, GA vs Tenn, ND vs Ohio St and TX vs Penn St.
I just don't like conference champions getting automatic bye. What if it's a lousy or weaker conference.
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