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Quite an honor for Phil Mickelson. Sports jerk of the year by Tank McNamara.
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Quite an honor for Phil Mickelson. Sports jerk of the year by Tank McNamara.
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I really don't understand Mickelson at all with LIV. He had just won the PGA, oldest major champion ever. Could have spent the rest of his life as an elder statesman of the game, would be a natural pick as the Masters starter some day, probable Ryder Cup Captain, the whole nine yards.
Instead, he chose to become the face of LIV golf??? And for what, money?? He already had more money than Jeff Bezos, and could have made plenty more in endorsements. Just a real head scratcher to me.
Pertaining to the Netflix series, about what I expected from Spieth and Thomas. Poulter is rather “meh” as a player but good for him for carving out a hefty financial lifestyle for mainly his Ryder Cup performances. Scotty really does seem like a down to Earth kind of guy. Rickie and others in their limited appearances haven’t shown anything we did not already know about them. Then you have Brooks. So easy to see why he lost his edge. Dude married whatever that wife of his is, lives a very comfortable lifestyle (too comfortable for a guy like him) and has more negative thoughts than a hack like me has about his game.
Will say this though. Having a few friends who played on tour that were mainly journeymen who scraped up a decent living before having to face reality and join the rest of us in working world, playing professional golf seems like it would be fun but the pressure to perform especially for the guys who are not top money players is unbelievably high. The stories these guys have about the tour is a different world than even this series portrays it to be. Am sure is by design by the players and PGA making sure they had creative control on the content in it.
Will say this though. Having a few friends who played on tour that were mainly journeymen who scraped up a decent living before having to face reality and join the rest of us in working world, playing professional golf seems like it would be fun but the pressure to perform especially for the guys who are not top money players is unbelievably high. The stories these guys have about the tour is a different world than even this series portrays it to be. Am sure is by design by the players and PGA making sure they had creative control on the content in it.
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I stumbled into that Netflix series and binged the whole thing last night. Couldn't stop watching. I love golf and I could watch 100 hours of this.
it confirmed exactly what I thought about Brooks. When he burst onto the scene he seemed so laid back and cool then a couple years later he started his little feuding and you started thinking something was wrong with the guy. There is, he is a complete jerk. The players call him "The Masters Whisperer" and laugh at him as he's such an assclown. Then he's got that crackho he married sitting around feeding him donuts and he's wondering why he lost his edge?
The episode about Finau was good. That garage door with the ball dings was really something. Talk about wanting it. That was good stuff.
I'm probably in the minority but I thought the PGA came off as arrogant and I disagree completely with them on Liv. Golf can build bridges into Saudi culture not necessarily endorse it. It is better for the players. The guys that took the money would have been fools not to. Golf being more popular more places benefits the game. The PGA should have responded to work with Liv as there is enough for everybody to go around Play year round. Work it out. It is going to happen anyway. All those stuffy PGA executives should be out on their arses and the PGA should coexist with Liv and completely reverse their stance the sooner the better.
The PGAT is not getting in bed with blood money (no reason for them to), so the entire paragraph above is false.
All you need to know about the PGAT and what it means to the players was watch the tournament this weekend. Seeing Homa break down over not winning for his home fans was what this is all about....not the paycheck.
You're stance is clueless.
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The PGA Tour has regularly attacked the LIV Golf series for being funded by Saudi Arabia. According to the Tour's allied smear merchants, the checks earned by the likes of Dustin Johnson and Bryson DeChambeau are said to be "blood money." Commissioner Jay Monahan even refuses to call it LIV…
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Just finished the 2nd episode of Full Swing. Never liked Brooks Koepka to begin with and after seeing this it's like full-on hatred for the guy. What a whiny punk! Basically admits numerous times he just can't compete anymore with some of the younger guns on the tour, then laughs about joining LIV.
Most of the guys that jumped had very strong financial reasons to do so. Would have been criminally stupid not to. Who on earth is going to think "boy, look at all those great golfers playing for LIV, Saudi Arabia must be OK after all" as that is just stupid.
Yes, they were offered a lot of money, not going to begrudge anyone getting their money. They can decide if it is morally acceptable but let's not act like the PGA stiffed these guys on money. The question is how much is enough.
DJ- $27 mill in Fed Ex Cup money, probably half deferred.
Stenson- $13 million probably 20% deferred
Bubba, Bryson, Brooks all in 4-5 million range
Throw in cut money and sponsorship deals and they did pretty well.
DJ- $27 mill in Fed Ex Cup money, probably half deferred.
Stenson- $13 million probably 20% deferred
Bubba, Bryson, Brooks all in 4-5 million range
Throw in cut money and sponsorship deals and they did pretty well.
I sort of understand the guys that were over the hill anyway or were minor players on the PGA tour. But DJ, Koepka, Mickelson, Cam Smith especially don't need money. Smith is in the prime of his career and had just made 20 million dollars on the PGA tour. What more can you spend?
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For sure the guys on the downside made a great financial decision. The others are drawn to what is simply IMO a better system. The PGA of course has a lot of empty trips for everyone not making the cut. You get into a rut and miss cuts then I imagine the bills pile up as the overhead on these players has got to be through the roof.
LIV can be good for the game. Pro golf in Saudi Arabia, or any other Western influence in Saudi Arabia, is a good thing. We want them to be more like us. As I said, it is simply not credible to think that pro golfers playing on a Saudi tour are lending credibility to a brutish regime. That manure.
Sports builds bridges, though. That is undeniable. The PGA should clean house and look to live with LIV as an extension of the game. More golf is a good thing to me, not a negative. And my opinion of Saudi Arabia is not going to come from an over the hill Phil and I am positive our influence on their culture will be much greater than any "legitimacy" golf can be perceived as lending to them. When Western culture invades it wins out. That is what history clearly tells us. Not vice-versa.
Clean house at the PGA and reverse course on LIV. It is inevitable so bite the bullet now or play catch-up later.
I'd be kind of stunned if he is.
I have been waiting for Jordan Spieth to blow up again and run away with one. Cantlay and Scheffler plus all the usual suspects should all be ahead of Tiger and in contention. A top 10 finish by Tiger would be fantastic.
I love the Masters. It is my favorite event in all of Sport to watch unless the Bengals are playing in the Super Bowl. One of the reasons I try to defend LIV is Greg Norman is my favorite player of all time. Such a tragic figure. Nick Faldo running Greg down at the masters in '96 hooked me for life. I was captivated by that tournament.
So, PGA is paying $5k a tournament either starting this year or next to cover expenses, thanks to LIV. Is that enough, probably not.
But currently, PGA pay $4500 per cut made, as long as you start at least 15 tournaments. They pay $9,000 for any cut past the 15 mark. This is deferred money. Have to make 75 cuts to get half though and 150 to get it all.
Poulter 250 cuts
Watson 266 cuts
Steele 204 cuts
Casey 234 cuts
They pay Fed Ex Cup money to the top 150 players. Again, mostly deferred. But, top 10 on list get most of their money up front. So, DJ, Stenson, Rory, etc., have already received a ton of money for their performance outside of actual prize money.
The PGA supports multiple tours for LIV to cherry pick from. They can wait and see who develops before making an offer after PGA has done all the work of weeding out the weak.
So this better system of LIV, upfront, benefits 50 rather than 150, sure, but the better players benefit greatly on the PGA tour. Yes, you're talking guaranteed contracts. NFL vs MLB contracts, one not guaranteed, one is.
Graeme Mcdowell admitted in the online Golf magazine Podcast that he picked LIV primarily because he knew he was no longer competitive on the pga tour, had played terrible for the past 18 months and just decided to take the cash. No great surprise there but at least he was honest.
That's a good post, Thanks. Tough situation but I am a big believer in improvement through competition and already LIV has caused the PGA to rethink a few things.
Ultimately they will have to coexist and it is better for the fans as we get to see more golf and it is better for the players. It can be better for the PGA if they would just see it as an opportunity instead of something they have to fight so negatively against. They have really went all in on fighting LIV and I think history will prove that was a mistake. We'll see.
They can co-exist but only at the majors.
To what I posted above, the PGA has all that overhead to support. They have tv and tournament sponsors pay for that stuff. They, tv and sponsors, expect the PGA players to play their events. How do you do that? You enforce the Tour commitment these players agree to, meaning not compete in opposite field events. LIV players opted elsewhere.
You know a PGA player sets their schedule. There was a rule as of 1-2 years ago, that each year, or every other year, you had to commit to an event that you had not played in before or not in the last 2-3 years, not exactly clear. So, some had to choose an unattractive event. Helping sponsors and tv viewing.
PGA now has elevated fields events, thanks to LIV, the Honda was already faltering and this set Honda over the edge, no more sponsorship after this year.
Lastly, you are only arguing for a select few on LIV, not the whole. The PGA is supporting the whole.
You obviously know a helluva lot more about the financing involved than I ever would so I appreciate your posts and I will not even attempt to disagree with you.
My point is more from the overall picture of other sports, other leagues, and the advent of more competition in previous sports.
I will have a hard time believing the PGA is hurting for money. Even then I feel they have to be short-sighted. More golf being played in more places for a longer period of time around the year has to help the sport. All you have to do is manage the growth responsibly. By attacking LIV they are cutting off a tremendous business opportunity for the growth of the game.
My contention is the PGA should have been working with LIV on scheduling and everything else from the beginning to be a part of that growth instead of fighting the inevitable fire. Do you think the PGA has the cash to wage war permanently with the Saudis? You think fans will stop wanting to see all the players that go over to LIV not play?
Short-sighted to me based only on what I have seen from all other sport. You certainly know more about this specifically than I do and again, I appreciate your posts on it.
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They never attacked LIV. They protected their organization, which has rules, bylaws, etc.
The "growth of the game" label is one of the more overstated in the sport. There were world tours and tournaments in dozens of countries long before LIV....the visibility of the game was better than ever, especially thanks to Tiger and other prominent multi-tour players.
Your obsession with LIV is fine....and they can do their own thing, but they need to realize they are on their own island. The PGA Tour is just fine without any involvement.
^Imagine if the PGA had worked with LIV to coordinate the scheduling of events. get a percentage of the action from LIV for their events in exchange for allowing PGA players to participate, co-sponsored events here... naming right, player endorsements... you name it. The PGA would have been flush.
Now that they've completely demonized LIV it is going to be hard. They are literally risking the end of the PGA and that was completely unnecessary as the enemy they picked has unlimited money.
Now that they've completely demonized LIV it is going to be hard. They are literally risking the end of the PGA and that was completely unnecessary as the enemy they picked has unlimited money.
