So what. Forget about the 4 guards who did score double digits! How many a UK players average over 7 points last year and compare it to duke, and it's not even close lol! Just because it's too small a sample size to call it an average doesn't take away how amazing it is to have 4 guards producing like that, and will likely continue to put up similar numbers! The fact that your argument isn't showing stats on how good duke players aredoing, and instead nit picking on the sample size of an amazing stat proves how far ahead we're than you'll!
Evan Daniels on Giles at UK or Duke
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For the guys that averaged over 7 I think it's like 10 to 8 uk. Sure uk has better pros no duke fans is disputed that. BUT I would take ours against anyone else
Delusional. LOL! Okafor was a really good college post player. He is strong, and he has good post moves. But he is not a complete player. NBA GMs make their living by evaluating talent. If Okafor was the best player, he would have been drafted #1. And in case you missed this, Karl Anthony Towns went #1 to Minnesota. Towns is bigger, faster, and more skilled than Okafor. LA Lakers drafted #2. Okafor was the 3rd player drafted. Towns developed faster at Kentucky than Okafor developed at Duke.
First of all, @Testkid, does Okafor have any awards that prove he was the best player in the country? I recall Frank Kaminsky being the guy last year. Also, Towns progressed immensely. He came in with no post game, left Kentucky as a dominant post player and the top overall pick over a guy (Okafor), who was projected as the top pick in the draft since he started being evaluated.
Thread got so off topic. Not even sure what people are arguing anymore. Just from the responses on this page, did it shift from who was the better college player between Okafor and Towns? Who will be the better pro? As far as college awards go, that is a crapshoot. Usually the best player/prospect doesn't win the NPOY, with AD being the exception in recent years. If you can't see that Okafor/Towns are and were better than Kaminsky, that is crazy.
Maggette was so good that he was a pro while he was still at Dook. Are you upset about Coach Krybabyski ruining college basketball while this one and done stuff?
Michael Jordan didn't go #1. NBA GM's make their living evaluating talent... Okafor was the better college player and flat out had a better year. Just because Towns came on late in the season does not negate what Okafor did. Came in 2nd place for national player of the year and posted dominant stats while constantly being the focal point for opposing defenses. Look at Okafor's first couple of NBA games. Look at Towns
Towns is the better all around player because he actually plays defense and has a game beyond 10 ft. Oh and he made 80% of his free throws. Your delusional if you think Okafor is better or will have a better career. Let's not forget Towns skipped a grade in high school as well and was a tremendous student. Towns went first because he is not one dimensional, although Okafor is really good at what he does. Also don't forget Towns did not become our #1 option until late in the year.
Have you seen okafor's ankles? He is a couple trips to hometown Buffett from being Oliver Miller
Karl has the most complete game,and the most upside of all the rookies IMO.
Actually, after tonight, Towns will have the better two game NBA career than Okafor.
Yeah, and I sure hope we revisit it game by game.
Okafor is going to score (maybe... until his legs fall apart from fatness) a lot and lose... a lot.
Towns is probably going to score more, rebound more, block more shots, have more assists... and win.
Bash away, but Giles to UK at this point (given what we have coming in and spare me the 'jones and Gabriel small forward' crap) is absurd to even consider or get ur hopes up over. Don't care what anyone says.
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I have no clue where he is going, but Cal has still been recruiting him, and if Giles wants to come here he will start and log major minutes regardless of who is on our roster before or after he commits.
Oh yeah I totally agree but it's not gonna happen. He will end up at Duke...if he doesn't I'll admit I'm wrong like I always do. But Giles to UK makes zero sense....especially seeings how we have Wynyard and Humphries and more than likely Lee back next year. I mean what, are we gonna platoon two teams of 4s and 5s?
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Well, well, well, Mr. Knee Jerk opening his yapper once again. Remember this little meltdown? Classic
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Let's take that look shall we?
Tonight:
KAT 28 pts 14 reb 4 blks 2-0
Okafor 10 pts 6 reb 0 blks 0-2
Sixers haven't won a game in 3 weeks, counting preseason...
Season:
KAT 21 pts 13 rebs 2 blks 27.3 per
Okafor 18 pts 6 rebs 1 blks 13.6 per
Oh yeah and then there was this article today out of Philly:
http://www.philly.com/philly/sports..._steal_some_spotlight_from_Jahlil_Okafor.html
Flawless? At what?
I doubt we get him either but it won't be because of playing time. No offense to the kid but Harry Giles doesn't spurn a school because he's afraid of Tai Wynyard taking his minutes. That's more absurd than thinking Giles is coming to Kentucky.
Last night.
Jack LeGwin @jacklegwin 15h15 hours ago
Cameron Crazies chanting "Harry Giles come to Duke." @AdamZagoria
Jack LeGwin @jacklegwin 15h15 hours ago
Cameron Crazies chanting "Harry Giles come to Duke." @AdamZagoria
To think the reason Giles won't come here is too much depth in the frontcourt is just dumb. Giles is the type of talent that starts at any school he decides to Play for. If the kid was really concerned about that, I'm pretty sure Cal nor the kid would waste each others time in recruiting. He may not come here so you're really not going out on a limb with that prediction, but I promise you it won't be for that reason. How some of our fans function on a daily basis I'll Never know.
Then he must be going to Wake because Duke's front court is loaded for next year too.
For as good of a school Duke is academically, they sure do have some really dumb fans. Cringing at the dumb in here from the Dukies.
The average Cameron Crazy doesn't even know who Harry Giles is. They probably received a cue card.
Their student fans are a complete joke.
They sure do not know the game of basketball. They have to look at the ref and see what he is going to call before they know to cheer or boo. I am serious.
Cal should text him, "Okafor's 'guaranteed' #1 draft position looked a lot like Duke's special teams on the last play."
Cal wants 5 guys 6'9" or taller on the floor. Giles could play the point guard position.
Reading through all this, I'm thinking that the biggest upset recruit that Cal got from someone else so far was probably Teague from UL. That was thanks to Teague's brother Jeff, who thought Teague would develop better under Cal. Lyles comes to mind as well changing from IU.
Giles coming here would be the biggest get for Cal since AD or Wall.
As for Okafor or Towns? Both guys have an open path to make their teams legitimate. Both can be all-stars because you can be a one-way player and be a superstar (see Irving and Harden). So Towns was just a better fit for Minnesota than Okafor at the time.
I think the Lakers were the ones who made the biggest mistake by passing on Okafor.
Giles coming here would be the biggest get for Cal since AD or Wall.
As for Okafor or Towns? Both guys have an open path to make their teams legitimate. Both can be all-stars because you can be a one-way player and be a superstar (see Irving and Harden). So Towns was just a better fit for Minnesota than Okafor at the time.
I think the Lakers were the ones who made the biggest mistake by passing on Okafor.
IDK about that, Russell is putting some swagger back into LA. Lakers needed a premier point guard. Hardest position to adapt, playing for the Lakers, only 1 year in college, is he even 20 yet?
I still like that pick, especially for the future if they keep Randle. It will just take some time.
I still like that pick, especially for the future if they keep Randle. It will just take some time.
Really? How bout you compare stats per 40 mins, how bout you do that because that's the only way to compare fairly considering Towns didn't play as much. Also, I guess you didn't see Towns' first couple games as a pro. I imagine you didn't or you wouldn't have said something so stupid. Just to fill you in, Towns has been an absolute BEAST these first couple games.
