So you need 15 draft years to make a fair comparison? How about we give Cal 15 years at UK recruiting players and then compare.
Evan Daniels on Giles at UK or Duke
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Oak was the best player in the country so I don't know how he didn't progress. The lakers will kick themselves for years for not taking him
No I am just saying duke guys in the pros are not as bad as people make them out to be. Sure our pros over that time are not as good as uk but I would take our pros against any other school besides kentucky.
Shut up. He wasn't the best player. He started out great and KAT blew by his ass like El Nino.
Maybe you should stick to making love to Coach K posters.
he had that great move to the basket in close but the rest of his game was not that outstanding to me, jmo.
Hate to break it to you, but the league is hesitant to build around one-dimensional bigs who can't play defense.
Nerlens Noel is still the best big on the 76ers. Okafor is a great scorer, but that's all he is.
His other go to move is eating junk food with Joel Embiid.
Giles has the opportunity to max his 1 year potential at UK or he can go to Duke and waste it and live off the ESPN hype till the NBA draft.
Although, it is intriguing to be able to get the red carpet treatment from the ESPN sponsored refs and the NCAA's calculated seeding in the tourney.
Coach K has had over 30 years worth of a sample size to work with. Up until the last few years, I'd say his pros have been rather disappointing as a whole - Grant Hill, Brand, and a few others being the obvious exceptions.
Its going to be difficult comparing Towns and Okafor this year because the TimberWolves are a much better team. Towns will get less shot attempts because of it.
Towns can do it all. Great defensive player and his offensive is the complete package. Will be so much better than okafor over the next few years. Last night he dunked, showed the hook shot, and hit the 18 footer. As he gets stronger and more adjusted to the nba game he will just explode.
Must duke fans would agree with you. The point is over the last 15 years that has changed and will get even better with irving parker oakfor winslow ingram tatum and hopefully giles
Sure it will. (wink) You already lost when you have to go back 15 years. Why not 20 and include other UK players?
Its not about winning though. I said kentucky produce better pros than anyone. I have only said I would take our pros against other school besides uk over the last 15 years
Enjoy it while it lasts. "Clean Sheets" will be 69 in February. I put your window at 5 years.
Then you guys get Capel, a good coach, but on no level close to Saint Clean Sheets.
It's a joke dude... posters above are talking about duke and uks nba product. Relax
Giles may end up at Duke but I don't think his friendship with Tatum is as important as some think it is. He is also good friends with Randolph Childress's son who he played with at his previous school but he chose to move to Oak Hill because he thought that was the best move for his development as a player. With everything else being equal, his friendship with Tatum could be the deciding factor but that won't be the primary reason for his decision.
Dammit. I got halfway down the list and and started reading the rebound column. I can admit when I'm wrong. It was 5 over 7ppg.
Yeah we will go through a transition but duke is a name brand and if Capel doesn't do well I'm sure we will pay anything to get the best coach possibe
With K being the best ever, Duke will clearly take a step or few back.
We've already seen Capel's capabilities.
Rupp laid a foundation that made UK the best all time. Even still to this day. K has had a great run. Will he be Rupp or Wooden. I'm thinking the latter.
We've already seen Capel's capabilities.
Rupp laid a foundation that made UK the best all time. Even still to this day. K has had a great run. Will he be Rupp or Wooden. I'm thinking the latter.
First class with 4 top 10 kids? Correct me if I'm wrong but weren't Harrisons,Randle,Young, and Johnson all in the top 10?
Eric Bossi said on the main board that everyone he's talked to still said any choice other than Duke would be a shock.
Lol KAT >oak and the NBA GM'S AGREE! ITS PRETTY MUCH THAT SIMPLE. But I would trade Oak going #1 and UK winning title cause no way DUKE beats us last year that is what is sickening. WE will get redemption and win it all this coming year.
I agree...K didn't take the amount of elite kids he has over the past 3 years, plus he coached many years when kids were going straight from HS. Kobe Bryant would have gone to Duke, hands down...and you'd have other cases of that. K was able to win a LOT by having either a bunch of veteran players, or very solid role players around 1 or 2 elite guys...now he's winning with the Cal method of load up on OAD players. So he's pretty much proven he can win with various tactics.
Irving, Parker, Okafor are all-stars...period. Will be interesting to see how Winslow and Jones translate, but my guess is they have very solid careers.
Parker and Okafor actually have to make an All-Star game before being labeled "All-Stars". Go ask Demarcus Cousins how easy that is. He practically had to sell his soul last year to make the game, and he's exponentially better than Okafor and will remain so throughout both their respective careers.
Both those guys have a shot, but in a league that leaves guys like Damian Lillard off the All-Star team due to the vast surplus of league-wide talent, nothing is a guarantee.
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Predicted? Hell, he guarantees and calls them done deals. Then wonders why everyone calls him out. I will say this, he has gotten better with using IMO. I'll have to give him that but it still hasn't stopped him from guaranteeing every top 10 player a lock for UK.
Tell me.. How are Duke players going to get All-star spots when half the roster will be Kentucky? Good luck with that.
And never again mention Tyus Jones doingng anything relevant in the NBA.. He'll sooner be Austin Rivers before he is Irving/Parker/okafor . Duke fans really are oblivious to anything outside of their own team. What about Jones' game is going to translate to an illustrious NBA career? No defense, unatheltic. His game was predicated on Duke Officiating.. He flopped way too much and given too many calls. Not gonna happen in the NBA.
And never again mention Tyus Jones doingng anything relevant in the NBA.. He'll sooner be Austin Rivers before he is Irving/Parker/okafor . Duke fans really are oblivious to anything outside of their own team. What about Jones' game is going to translate to an illustrious NBA career? No defense, unatheltic. His game was predicated on Duke Officiating.. He flopped way too much and given too many calls. Not gonna happen in the NBA.
Lol WHAT?!? Based off of what? 1-2 games???
C'mon man you sound like a child. (Unless you are then I truly apologize)
Terrible post.
Okafor will be a perennial all start for the foreseeable future mainly due to the offensive stats that he will put up. There is no denying he is one of the most skilled offensive big men that we have seen in a while. Not sure why people are bashing the kid, lol. KAT will also be an all star, we just won't see the offensive numbers like Okafor because KAT is on a better team. Both are extremely good players. Clearly Okafor does not play defense worth a lick, but either does one of our favorite Cats of all time, Boogie. He has turned out A-OK.
Again, one game is not enough of a sample size to draw conclusions from. Not saying those guys won't continue to put up numbers like that, but one game is hardly definitive proof.
