Cal Trending Down
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I get many are irritated....100%.
I will say I am starting to become very concerned about shooting the 3 in terms of an Achilles heel. I thought we would be able to count on IQ, Maxey, Sestina and Juzang to all be above a 35% clip. That hasn't been the case and has to change.
In terms of mass hysteria regarding Cal...
1. Look at my post on Cal 10 years split....similarities are uncanny. Outcomes have flip/flopped in close games in tourney...imo, that is just the way the game is. Win some/lose some.
2. To me even if you compare just this year to last...Duke clobbered us and then we lost to SH. This year, Evansville equates to Duke loss and now Utah.
LY we bounced back vs UNC and UofL as I recall. This year it rope for the taking with OSU and UofL.
I don't know what happens, but I am not giving up hope as more often than not we have been there in March.
Some of you just need to realize that EVERY TEAM HAS AN ACHILLES HEAL. Sometimes you can overcome it and most of the times you cannot. That is sport.
https://kentucky.forums.rivals.com/threads/cals-10-years-split.310804/
and then yet again loses in the FF which we’ll celebrate as a huge victory and hang a banner for.
1-11 not good enough
Who bitches after a win? No business once again losing this game.
1-11. Not good enough
We can talk BS calls but a good team doesn’t need bs calls to determine a game. They r just better than the refs. As UK fans we KNOW the refs r against us. I assume the team would as well. We should never be in the position for the ref to determine the game. If we do, we lose. I’ll edit that to exclude when the refs blatantly cheat like Higgins....but even then...we KNO what we have to deal with. If Cal hasn’t told these kids how it is, then that’s on him. Just play hard and it’s not an issue. Not if they play as good as their ranking, which is y we recruited them.
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According to a fan on a message board? LOL the dude just got a life time contract. Regardless if you or anyone else likes it, he is going to be the coach here for a long time to come unless he himself decides to leave. Sit back and relax.
Cal needs to start coaching like he did at UMASS, and coach to win games for UK, and not to see how many guys he can get drafted. This is what needs to happen.
I would just be happy if Cal would take the focus off of producing NBA draft picks and put the focus back on the University of Kentucky.
The constant revolving door has killed my interest in UK basketball. I don’t think I’m alone in that.
The constant revolving door has killed my interest in UK basketball. I don’t think I’m alone in that.
Think people are angry and annoyed now?
Wait until UK gets embarrassed against OSU and then loses at home to UL
Wait until UK gets embarrassed against OSU and then loses at home to UL
This is all he does, jump from thread to thread insulting posters. He was banned once for this very thing, but was let back in with the Rivals re-boot. However, it seems he did not learn a lesson at all.
Since 2015 it has felt a lot like the Tubby years including two regional final losses, Tubby’s Achilles heel. I doubt we even make it that far this year. 4 FF’s the first 6 years, this will be 5 straight without one. Cal catching UCLA seems laughable now. And will he ever sign another top 10 big?
You are not alone. Look at the empty seats in Rupp. I have no stats, but I venture to say less fans are traveling to games as well.
And when the Cats make the final four this year will you still say Cal is "trending down" ?
I get being upset. I understand criticism for Cal even but Jesus Christ this board full of grown ass men (some; not all) really know how to throw a emo style temper tantrum lol.
some of y’all take this $hit wayyyy to far.
some of y’all take this $hit wayyyy to far.
I don't think he's necessarily saying that, but look back through the board least year and look and what we were saying on this board about Whitney. Now compare those statements/beliefs to what we've seen of him on the court.
This is the best post I've seen in a long time.
I can't stand it when people reply with "wait until March" when the team doesn't look good. That mentality goes against everything I thought UK basketball and its fans stand for. Yes - championships are more important than regular season wins, but you can't just float through the season playing- and losing to - cupcakes and act like it doesn't matter.
If the games now don't matter to Cal or the players or even some of our fans, then why do we even play them? I know I haven't been watching them much. I haven't watched or listened to one minute of at least 5 games this year. That might be more than I've missed in my lifetime. Cal and bunches of fans on here say I shouldn't care at this point in the season. Well guess what, I pretty much don't anymore.
Times have changed. The thought, probably true, was that defense wins championships. This is not true anymore, not in college basketball. Seems to me the teams with the most efficient offenses have been doing the winning.
I don't know what this offense is. I call it "bowling ball" because that's all it is. Drive the ball hard until everyone falls on the floor and a foul is called. This plan works when you have John Wall and Fox type players.
I don't think Cal knows how to coach anything other than "bowling ball" and we're never going to be good enough from three point range to do what better offensive programs are doing.
We've had great shooters come through here, they're killing it in the NBA, but here, they were stymied by this pathetic offensive scheme that looks like street ball.
If Cal doesn’t move on to a more offensive style, we just need to he happy with 8-10 loss seasons and Elite 8 ceilings, because a great offense beats a great defense more times than not.
This team here is never going to be a great defensive team. Now it doesn't look to me like it will ever have anything resembling an efficient offense.
We've seen bowling ball offense for 10 years. It's what he knows… it appears to be all he knows.
Love those intramural inbounds plays we run too.
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I don't think we necessarily even have bad shooters. We just do nothing to get them good shots.
They play in a bad offense that makes them look bad.
I don't think its an issue with Cal knowing how to coach.
He is taking high school freshmen whose are facing teams that can thrash them November/December and he has made the decision to manage the risk associated with that.
Cal is saying "look, my process requires at least 4 months, maybe more depending on the talent I have" to have a legitimate shot at being a title team - which means this is what you get in November/December
Some fans are OK with that, many are not. That's apparent in the enthusiasm for the program. #6 in the nation and a significant number of fans don't care.
He is taking high school freshmen whose are facing teams that can thrash them November/December and he has made the decision to manage the risk associated with that.
Cal is saying "look, my process requires at least 4 months, maybe more depending on the talent I have" to have a legitimate shot at being a title team - which means this is what you get in November/December
Some fans are OK with that, many are not. That's apparent in the enthusiasm for the program. #6 in the nation and a significant number of fans don't care.
The one and done era has run it's course. The ghost of that loss to Wisconsin in 2015 continues to haunt us. We've never had that same swagger since then. I'd had to see Cal go, but I agree with others that have posted, something needs to change.
Hell, Carolina kept Dean Smith for 30 something years and only won 2 titles. He did less with more talent over those years and is revered by that fan base.
Cal is great for UK and has the team competing for a title most years. Every coach has flaws but Cal gets fine young men to come play here and has his teams in the discussion for the top spot consistently.
Cal is great for UK and has the team competing for a title most years. Every coach has flaws but Cal gets fine young men to come play here and has his teams in the discussion for the top spot consistently.
Play like we did last night and we lose the OSU game by 25 and the UL game by 10.
This. Cal should be forcing the tempo instead of allowing the other team to do that.
Always hurts and it’s frustrating when uk loses to teams like this, but i know we’ll be a contender come march. aside from the nerlens injury year and ‘16 loss the second weekend we’ve been in the hunt. the tournament is always a crapshoot and the team that wins it all usually gets some breaks along the way.
Since cal has been here i feel each year that we can win it all.
Since cal has been here i feel each year that we can win it all.
You think we were in the hunt the Knox, SGA, Diallo year? Nope. That was not a good team. Not even close to a contender.
When has Cal turned a team around other than 2014?
We haven't made it past the elite 8 in almost 5 years, and all teams before that have had elite level talent.
Have we had teams who looked to suck and ended up better than we expected? Yes. But what the hell does it matter if we aren't making it past the sweet 16 or Elite 8?
If you count that as successful, then you might as well celebrate draft day with Cal as UK's biggest day of the year.
Yeah - except this year we started the year with a couple of sophomores, a junior and a grad transfer senior. There was only one freshman in the lineup. His excuses don't work as well in that scenario.
yea I know what you are saying.
I think that's why playing these crap teams at Rupp (and losing to one of them) is rubbing so raw with the fans right now. He is saying his guys will lose to good teams. Hell, any coach can do that. That isn't why UK hired him.
Do we have talent or don't we?
We are playing not to lose which is not the same as playing to win.
Someone just beat me to the punch, but yeah this excuse doesn't work anymore - we have Juniors out there that have no idea what they're doing on offense. No idea!
I know. If we have a year where people unexpectedly stay for some reason and juniors and a senior or two are getting the significant minutes, will he still be saying we're young and you can't teach them an offense? Is there any real player development that goes on that is focused on team and not individual?
We were in the hunt even though not a great team. two or three points from e8 in the loss to kst.
all true, but if you are starting 3 freshmen or whatever it is and you're trying to get a rotation of freshmen in the game who are arguably better than your returning players, then why wouldn't you want to play a schedule full of cupcakes at the start of the season? You're basically extending practice for 2 months.
as I said, the fans are voting with their attendance and enthusiasm for this approach. Will UK care? I guess that's up to Barnhart. Given Cal just got a lifetime contract, I don't see things changing.
as I said, the fans are voting with their attendance and enthusiasm for this approach. Will UK care? I guess that's up to Barnhart. Given Cal just got a lifetime contract, I don't see things changing.
We got to the Sweet 16 by beating Buffalo and then lost to a mediocre K-State team WITHOUT their best player.
If you’re saying “in the hunt” is losing in the Sweet 16 to a not good team, I think you’re being pretty loosey goosey with the definition of in the hunt.
I bet Rick Majerus is rolling over in his grave, Utah finally beat Kentucky and he wasn't here to see it.
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