NOOO! UK and IU in Talks to Renew Rivalry
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Why do people here continue to make things up when trying to rationalize their view point? You've gotten 2 guys out of our state in the past few years in Lyles and Teague. Goes to show how false the accusations of fans mistreatment were that day in Bloomington.
Definitely late to this party. I voted only on neutral courts, like in Indy and Louisville, perhaps even Cincy. The timing definitely has a IU stink on it though. They know we're not going to be what we have been the last two years, and they look to have a pretty good team. Except for the guy coaching it of course. So now they want to renew. Hardly a coincidence. If UK says no thanks I'm fine with that. Rather play say Arizona, Ohio St, or any other Big 5 opponent. If UK says yes then only on neutral floors. I don't want UK to ever go back to that little barn they have.
Look how they have dropped since we quit playing them. We need good quality teams for our non conferance schedule, not a cupcake like IU LOL.
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I am truly amazed that the mighty Big Blue Nation is afraid that if they go back to Bloomington their fans, coaches or players might be in danger because of court storming. The high and mighty Cats are afraid of court storming? If I am not mistaken, the crowd only storms the court if their team wins. Since Kentucky is such a powerhouse why would the BBN be afraid--that COULDN'T happen again or could it?
Facts are inconvenient truths when they contradict one's point of view. Lets look at a few of those facts. Some on this board ignore these type facts, making the argument that scheduling IU would lower their RPI. That is not borne out by research on college basketball RPI. According to NCAA.com (as of April 7, 2015), here are some schools on the Cats schedule last year and their RPIs: Grand Canyon-279, Boston U-161, Montana State-323, UT, Arlington-180, Eastern Kentucky-142, and Colombia-201. Incidentally IU's RPI was 63.
Another fact, as provided by Realtime RPI.com power conference ratings, is that the mighty Southeastern Conference ranks 6th, behind most other major conferences. The ratings are 1. Big 12, 2. Big East, 3. ACC, 4. Big 10, 5. Pac 12, 6. Southeastern.
One last fact, to illustrate the weakness of the powerful SEC, here are the rankings of the SEC schools that have a lower RPI than IU: LSU-65, Tex A&M-68, Fla-69,Alabama-86, Vandy-88, S. Carolina-97, Tenn-102, Auburn-132, Miss St.-216, Missouri-218.
Funny how inconvenient some facts are, isn't it?
whether fans want the game or not. you guys need it. that's pretty much where it ends. our ooc schedule is the same either way. my response was what could it hurt. well, apparently fans think it could hurt iu in terms of exposure. so the fans may not want the series for this alone. the trend in the series has been uk for almost 30 years. it's by no means fear of losing. we just don't like you. and frankly, you stink. this year you'll be better. but uk doesn't need the exposure. you get this right? iu needs a boost and is probably kissing butt right now.
You guys may need a boost-- you've sure lost a lot of 5 stars that you were positive you were going to get. But you sure don't need a boost in your heads they are way too big as it is. This year may bring y'all back to earth. When the facts are on your side use facts, when they aren't use emotion.
I guess that's why they play the game--Robert Morris, NIT (now how did that happen)? What are you people going to do if the NCAA declares Skal ineligible? Looks like there were some "shady" things going on in his past-- it's appropriate he is going to KY. Don't you find it a little strange that Cal is the only college basketball coach who has had two final fours vacated? Of course he didn't have any idea cheating was going on--he sure had his programs under control didn't he? Kinda like Bill Clinton finding out about Waco by reading it in the newspaper, isn't it? What happens if he gets caught again at Kentucky?
Rich coming from a fan of a program trying to dig out from probation. The fact is Indiana cheated and has been on probation recently. You have to go back to since IU won a title for UK's last probation. IU fans are absolutely the last fans that need to point fingers and make accussations after Sampson and he was hired at Iu after leaving OU in trouble. Quit with the hypocritical shat. It is exactly that mentality that causes people to dislike you guys so much.
What is in the freaking water in Indiana? Whatever it is it must cause dementia. I never seen a group that forgets so much. They forgot we spanked that ass in the 2012 tourney on our way to a Championship and definitely forgot their team was the one that cheated recently and received probation from the NCAA.
Well said! And let's not forget the maniac who went running across the court in Louisville. That was IU in a nutshell. Knight may have had great success, but he was/is just as crazy. The only thing I give IU credit for is ultimately firing both.
So sayeth an Indbred sheep molesting troll. 1987 bitch, that's your life in your bass ackwards state of isht.
The trash-talking Indiana fans in this thread remind me why I don't want UK to renew the series. I haven't really had a problem with Indiana's players over the last several years, but their coach and fans are assholes.
Get some perspective and look in a damn mirror. You're an embarassing human being let alone an embarasing UK fan. I truely pitty your soul. Hows that avatar look Deron?
What's to make up? You idiots wanted Lyles and Teague, so did we. Where did they go?
Who have you signed from Indiana that we really wanted?
And what does our ability to recruit Indiana have to do with how your cesspool-wallowing fans treated visiting UK supporters? I hear meth is a mighty powerful drug but, even so apples & oranges= not the same.
Please elaborate on these "shady goings on" in Skal's past if you don't mind. Would love to see YOUR evidence. Then, you can provide YOUR evidence that Cal committed any infraction either at UMass or Memphis. I'm sure the NCAA would love to see it. Especially since in both cases THEY exonerated him of any wrong-doing and even put it in writing.
Honestly, were you in Ass Hall when that metal beam fell?
Honestly, as an IU fan 33 years running, I couldn't care less if this series gets renewed. I was pretty shocked at this initial cancellation of the series but at this point I just don't care anymore. I think both schools just need to move on. Yes, both schools, or the UK AD wouldn't be talking with IU.
As the mob mentality goes here, IU doesn't NEED UK. We'd be plying in Lucas Oil every if IU did. And you're right, UK doesn't need IU. Time for everyone to move on. As an IU fan, I don't care to play UK every year. (This is where myself, and IU in general, is too scared of the almighty UK (lol) comes into play from the unintelligent).
Bottom line is neither school NEEDS the other and it's time to let go of the nonsense. This IU fan couldn't care less if we playUK or not. Ride off into the sunset for all I care.
As the mob mentality goes here, IU doesn't NEED UK. We'd be plying in Lucas Oil every if IU did. And you're right, UK doesn't need IU. Time for everyone to move on. As an IU fan, I don't care to play UK every year. (This is where myself, and IU in general, is too scared of the almighty UK (lol) comes into play from the unintelligent).
Bottom line is neither school NEEDS the other and it's time to let go of the nonsense. This IU fan couldn't care less if we playUK or not. Ride off into the sunset for all I care.
Then contact your AD and tell him to forget it. That's what I've done,
I don't care enough to contact the AD. We play or we don't. I really don't care at all. Definitely not enough to call the AD which I will never actually speak with.
Good luck moving forward. My first summer in AZ, I'm ready for November.
You said you recruit our state better, you've gotten 2 5* from indiana while weve gotten 3. Lyles we stopped recruiting due to certain demands from his dad. Again quit making things up its sad and pathetic.
Thats honestly one of the most pathetic things ive seen on here. And thats saying a lot.
Could you call Mr Glass and ask him to give Tom Crean an extension and bump his buyout.
Do you find it more pathetic than getting past the Sweet 16 ONCE in 22 seasons? More pathetic than not winning since 1987? More pathetic than a psychopathic head coach who physically assaults players and gets fired for verbally assaulting students? More pathetic than a coach unhinged by his own son's sad lament, 'daddy will we ever beat Kentucky?' More pathetic than a university that hires a coach just off probation at Oklahoma who promptly commits serious NCAA violations? More pathetic than Creaning? Than cutting down nets in an empty gym after a loss? Than Sweet 16 rings? Because if anybody knows pathetic it is Indiana fans.
Could you call Mr Glass and ask him to give Tom Crean an extension and bump his buyout.
No no no no no
Says the half-wit iu whacker troll - pathetic like living on another teams board because you have no life?
In the same comment you claim I am making things up and then you insinuate Lyles' father was making some sort of "demand" that your program (I hesitate to use that word) wouldn't or more likely couldn't meet. Again, I hear meth is a powerful drug but, you gotta know when you're in too deep.
So using your "inconvenient facts"...IU's RPI was 63? What was UK's? 1? So UK needs to play IU why? The weakness of the SEC you say? And yet in 2013-2014, we had UF and UK in the Final Four with UK finishing Runner-up. So the weakness of the SEC conference that year made it so we could have benefitted from scheduling IU how? What about last year? How would scheduling IU have benefitted UK?
Sorry but the real inconvenience about your "inconvenient facts" is that they just don't stack up as a solid argument for why UK should feel the "need" to schedule IU ever again.
Duke doesn't need UK and UK doesn't need Duke, yet I would love to see a year to year match up between these two schools. Whether it will happen any time soon I don't know. What I do know is UK has no shortage of top tier teams that will play us and therefore...we do NOT need IU.
A little "inconvenient fact" for IU is that IU is no longer a top tier team. Do we play some cup cakes that are clearly not top tier? Sure we do, so does Duke, Kansas, North Carolina, Arizona etc. Then we sprinkle in some teams that look to have a good shot at making a deep run.
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To all you IU mouth-breathers trying to troll UK fans in this topic..it's simple, we know you would love nothing more than to get a home and home series started back up with UK. We just spent an entire season in the limelight while you trash were getting beaten at home by directional schools. It's only natural that a moth is attracted to the flame.
But, all you had to do to get a high stakes game against unbeaten UK just a month or so ago in the NCAA Tournament was win 3 games. There was your chance to prove to everyone that the might Loosiers were/are back. But, you couldn't get it done.
Now, here you idiots are again, trying to push your feeble program back toward legitimacy and bait us into believing the UK program would benefit from playing a home and home at Ass Hall. Yet, I've not seen any facts that might make it worth our while. Our program definitely hasn't suffered any ill effects from not playing you and in fact, we've improved our OOC schedule against actual title contenders. Again, I just don't see any upside to slumming around.
But, all you had to do to get a high stakes game against unbeaten UK just a month or so ago in the NCAA Tournament was win 3 games. There was your chance to prove to everyone that the might Loosiers were/are back. But, you couldn't get it done.
Now, here you idiots are again, trying to push your feeble program back toward legitimacy and bait us into believing the UK program would benefit from playing a home and home at Ass Hall. Yet, I've not seen any facts that might make it worth our while. Our program definitely hasn't suffered any ill effects from not playing you and in fact, we've improved our OOC schedule against actual title contenders. Again, I just don't see any upside to slumming around.
Not trolling just cheap entertainment. Its funny to read the excuses you guys come up with to avoid this game. Its gotten to an unhealthy level at this point.
Come on fella's, with the schedule of a modern athlete, or the workload of a demanding student degree program, do you all really not think that even the great University of Kentucky does not have set of classes less demanding?
UNC has (had) its AFA studies, duke has theirs, UK is bound to have something.
I was not so naive to think UNC was pure and still compete.
So, lets get over the "cheat" tag. UNC and UK provide a great annual event between two like schools.
And second……the UK - UNC game is not for "UNC's sake", it brings high ratings for obvious reasons. Because it is not a gimme' for either school, both having long time success ratings, and UK will use the higher payout (vs a game against another SEC school) to pay for its Title Nine requirements the same as UNC.
UK basketball is the top ratings program now (and has been for the last six years) and it is a fun game to be a part of but for "UNC's sake", I don't and most of you Wildcats don't either think so.
UK basketball is the top ratings program now (and has been for the last six years) and it is a fun game to be a part of but for "UNC's sake", I don't and most of you Wildcats don't either think so.
There is a big difference between less demanding and classes being created by a secretary. If you don't get that, nobody can help you.
Hoosier Daddy aka Duh Bull = Self-pleasuring homoerotic Facebook creeper of 52 year old men - don't spank it all in one place.
That's an old photo, you should ask him for an updated picture to wank to.
UK fans are clowns. Crack's me up when I see posts calling IU fans hillbillies and inbred. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black! LOL. And you all wonder why EVERYONE outside your state hates your program. This business about Assembly Hall being dangerous is rubbish and you all know it. All this talk is based on a report of some UK white-trash hillbilly porn star fan who broke a nail at the conclusion of the game. I was there. Yes the place erupted as any arena would after the home team hits a buzzer beater to win the game against a hated rival. There were some UK fans near me and no one paid any attention to them as they exited quietly. Cal just doesn't want to play in a rabid basketball environment. UK would rather continue to rack up wins against the joke of a league SEC foes in half empty arenas where everyone is asleep waiting for football season. As anyone with a clue about the history of college basketball understands, you wouldn't have the all-time wins lead if you played in a real conference. You would be lucky to have half those all-time wins if you played in the Big Ten. Your sorry team definitely would not have been undefeated entering the tournament this past season had you played in a major conference. Watching Wisconsin take you out was very satisfying. You think everyone is scared to play your team but really UK and it's redneck fan base provide entertainment to the rest of the country. So come on back to reality, and take your sister out somewhere real nice tonight for dinner!
