WOW Bombshell! Dick Gabriel just reported.....
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Yes...its the SEC lol...no just UK...good luck to you all...this cat fan is rooting for SC and FM!
Thanks. The OP quote comes in about the 8 min mark. He says he got it 2nd hand from a person he trusts. Can he trust the First Hand teller?
With all due respect, your efforts at defending the above call----tell me everything I need to know about you as a referee. Thanks but no thanks.
You made many respectable posts and some good points of view from someone that probably is a higher level official with credible experience. I won't argue like some others that you are trolling, I actually think you are valid.
With that being said, I'm sure you have watched the video summaries of the game calls. What is your opinion(s) on the way the game was called? To me, that means much more than whether a head official came in at halftime. I would rather hear your thoughts as an outside official on what did seem to be a skewed first half.
congrats on your reffing gig but I'm sorry... "Podunk U vs. Eastern Directional State College" just doesn't get as much attention from the higher ups. I'm sure you did a fine job though.
I think it's highly unlikely that you reffed "over 800" college basketball games. Why? Because I've been on this site for 15 years & I have never, not once, heard of anybody posting here that has reffed that many CBB games. So, based on that, I will say that there is a .0000000001% chance that any of what you're saying is true.
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Just like clockwork, here to defend officials using the "I've been an official a long time" strategy. The same guy that said officials "pregame" and talk about players and coaches but have no bias. GTFO with that crap. I have no idea if the director of officials went to the locker room at halftime, but neithr do you. Just because it never happened to you doesn't mean it never happens. College officiating sucks; it's been a topic on every sports talk show and many credible basketball minds have agreed the UK-UNC game was a farce in the first half. @IUfanBorden
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I highly doubt the HOO has ever been to Morehead, KY or Cedar Falls, IA so i can believe that he has never been in a locker room when you officiated. UK-UNC with a trip to the Final Four on the line? It is possible he was there, and if he was there it is possible he went to the locker room at the half. Stop saying it isn't possible.
Also these cool ass things called phones. Certainly could have figured out how to use one of those.
Clemsons problems isn't the refs, Clemsons problem is that they are the worst Basketball program in ACC History....
The IU fan has made some comments that have me confused. First he says that the only person who could have had a conversation with Higgins would have been J.D. Collins, the head of NCAA officials. In a later post he says there are observers at the games watching the officials. What is their purpose of being there if they are unable to address a situation where they think an official is being biased? He also says that the officials' performance would never be addressed until after the game. If there is an observer at the game who determines that an official is being biased against one of the teams in the first half of that game, why would he be required to wait until after the game to address the situation? If this is the case, then the head of officials is complicit in the cheating.
I don't know if Higgins was talked to at halftime or not but I don't think anyone can dispute that the first half and the second half of that game was officiated differently. I believe something happened at halftime that caused Higgins to change the way he called the second half.
I don't know if Higgins was talked to at halftime or not but I don't think anyone can dispute that the first half and the second half of that game was officiated differently. I believe something happened at halftime that caused Higgins to change the way he called the second half.
The NCAA definitely has people there. Who do you think has the extra whistles when a ref (all 3 of them, this time) swallows his... in a case like this:
100% agree. The only thing I would add is, bias or incompetency, the end result is the same. You can argue that an official isn't biased, but if you know anything about basketball you can recognize incompetency.
Agree. Higgins is either corrupt or incompetent, We get screwed either way.
He was the ref that called a high percentage of UK loses in the NCAA tourney...
http://www.rantsports.com/ncaa-bask...a-head-coach-sean-miller-targeted-by-referee/
Ask Sean Miller if refs are bias. According to the IU fan this is impossible and would never happen.
Ask Sean Miller if refs are bias. According to the IU fan this is impossible and would never happen.
Winner winner chicken dinner. My original post never said "met with" it said relayed.
I posted this on another Thread, but look at this reaction from Bobby Hurley when Higgins tosses him from the game:
There's an element of truth to that. But I will say, as a kid, I watched some very good Clemson teams (Skip Wise was better than Phil Ford when they were both freshman; Larry Nance was on a very good tater team). I watched UNC refs hose the tiglets in close game after close game after close game. Every charge is called a block, and UNC gets to bang you and hand check you with impunity. Other team gets called for simply swiping at air or the ball.
I'm not here trying to gain "trust". What do I need your trust for? I mean I could've went the route of a coward, and created an account just to "troll". But that's not me.
"Fool"? Do you even understand the meaning of this word? By your usage, i doubt you do.
I was more than "cut out for the job". I walked away from a full-time schedule to spend more time with my wife and kids.
Was i a good official? C'mon, now---That;s a trick question. We all know there is no such thing.
As for the play in question? It's a 2 second video. From what I see, it appears Darius put his hand in the back of UConn player---Giving a slight "push". JMO.
have a good day,fella.
Those games are important to those schools trying to get into the NCAAT. Try telling them it's not that important.
I've worked 100's of P5 game's,.
I not need to have worked an Elite 8 game to know and understand protocol. I've never heard of any "NCAA higher up's" entering the officials locker room, at halftime, to tell the officials to "get their shit together". So I am highly suspicious that happened.
As for being the "best judge"? Geez, dude---really? You don't think I have the expertise/experience to know about this ? I bet you call a plumber for a leaking roof, huh?
Why should no foul have been called? Because the player overreacted? Just b/c a said player adds some drama, doesn't mean a foul didn't occur. Every player, even those at UK, are guilty of this; See the Harrison twins. Dudes acting as if they were being prodded all the way down the floor.
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I'll try to find a longer version of that one. What's your call in the ARK-UNC video I posted?
I didn't say it wasn't possible; see my big foot reference. Of course it's possible. But highly. highly unlikely.
No the HOO hasn't been at any of the games I worked at Morehead State. But he's certainly been at games I've worked during P5 OOC games. He's been at games when we've worked Conference finals. I've met many of times with JD. Who also happens to be the corrdinator of officials for the Mid-American/Summit league. So your right. I doubt he ever goes to any mid-major games, huh? I will tell you this----Not once has he, or any peerson of authority came into a locker room during halftime and chastised our crew. Not once in over 800+ games.
Also, I've never heard any talk of this happening at any level of the NCAAT. And if it did, I doubt some washed up TV reporter from WKYT is getting the scoop.
You should read the story linked by BigSexyCat if you don't believe referees have a bias against certain coaches and teams. How else could you explain the the fact that an official offered to pay other officials $5,000 to call a technical on a coach then one of those officials does call a technical in that game after the coach questions a questionable call?
Ark/UNC play was a damn train-wreck. Someting has to be called there. You had a smack by an Arky player....then a travel...then a possible block/charge. One of the three has to be called. For me to answer though, is unfair. I wasn't on the game. I mean it's easy for me to have an opinion since I've had the luxury of seeing it on TV, and replayed in slow motion.
But I'll play. From the video it seems as if Arkansas kid reached in, hitting Berry's arm. So that certainly could've been a foul. The block/charge is close in the sense that the Arky kid, though in a legal guarding position, seems to step forward, and reach in. Thus negating his "legal guarding" position. If you don't call either of those, then it has to be a travel. Again, something needs to be called. To much contact, and to much action for a no call.
I never said I don't there are officials who don't have agenda's or are biased. There are 1000's of officials. It would be naive of me to think none of them do.
As for an official offering another officials $$$ to call technical's? IDK. I'd hope not.
Sweet Baby Jesus. You can throw around all the damn numbers you want, I don't give a rats ass if you have done over 800 games, as soon as you defend that call and don't just call it for what it is then you are either full of sh** or you should turn your whistle in.
If a UK player pulled that crap I would be saying the same thing. These kind of calls are what enable players to continue this crap and ruin the game of basketball.
Get lost.
Beautiful walk/charge combo whistled as a block. UNCheat has no business in the Final Four if not for inept and/or corrupt officiating as well as 20 plus years of fake classes sanctioned by the NCAA.The NCAA definitely has people there. Who do you think has the extra whistles when a ref (all 3 of them, this time) swallows his... in a case like this:
If you read the story you would know that it did indeed happen. The head of officials for that conference admitted it did, but he said the offer was made in "jest." Another example covering up for other corrupt officials.
Regarding the reported halftime meeting,you say you've never heard of anything like like this happening in the NCAAT and if it did you would doubt some washed up reporter from WKYT would get the scoop. It's as believable that he got the scoop as it is that you know what goes on between the officials and their supervisors in every game played in every season in NCAA history.
Again dude, it's a 2-second video. And keep in mind, you're looking at this though being a UK fan, AND absolute HATE for Higgins. I'm looking at this as an official. Look, I'm a straight shooter. I have no issue admitting something is bad. This is a small sample; 2-seconds at the most. IMO, it looks as if Darius places his righ arm/hand in the small of the UConn players back, and gives a push.
Im not acting as if I KNOW. I'm going off of 17 years of experience. And during that time, I've never once heard of anything like this happening. Not once. Now is it POSSIBLE? Sure...its possible. And maybe it did happen. But I doubt it. Even a moderator on here who was an officials agrees. So there is that.
As for the official offering the money in jest? How do you know it wasn't? Were you there? Did you hear the conversation? I mean you are dismissing I couldn't possibly know if the HOO went into the locker room or not on this same notion. So which is it? I can't know----but you can? How is that?
I do give you kudos for answering... and definitely agree that something had to be called.
BUT... thanks to the hermetically-sealed mayonnaise-jar-kept envelope I have... I already knew you'd go with some "smack/reached in" call on the ARK guy, which serves to negate everything that comes after... but it didn't predict you'd go so far to come up with the block on the ARK kid that was bulldozed. Funk & Wagnalls will be hearing from my lawyer!
I think the IU fan is a clever troll.
Low Post count....check.
Debates in absolutes...check
Fan of a Rival school...check
Account started day after IU upset victory of UK...check
If I'm reading this right, you're saying this was called a block? It was not, there was no call! 35.7 secs left and UNC sealed the win with a blatant no-call. You can't convince me otherwise.
Its not a one play game, but these avoidances sure don't belong in games of this magnitude.
Cheatin' Roy advances again!
I showed that video to a friend of mine who was a ref for 30 years on the D-2 level. He laughed and said it wasn't even good acting. This guy has no love for UK either. I think you are seeing something that isn't there. Were you THAT bad as an official??
