Would you obey a mask mandate?

[CatOfDaVille]

If this current generation of cynics had lived in December of 1941, they wouldn’t have believed Pearl Harbor was real, until a Jap walked up and bit ‘em on the ass!

Better yet, can you imagine if the government tried to implement rationing nowadays?

A significant portion of the population would be screaming that no one could mandate how much meat, sugar, butter, eggs, etc. they can buy.

The concept of the "common good" died a while ago in this country. It's been replaced with "f u. I got mine."

 

[kyeric]

Following the logic of "we cant afford to take care of all those aborted babies"... shouldn't the left be AGAINST masks... if it means more people die?

Again, using their logic, its less people to support... amirite?

The mental gymnastics required to be a lefty is absolutely exhausting.

And they are more than happy to open the borders like a flood gate to bring in people we clearly can't afford to support without neglecting our own citizens in the process.

Exhausting is an understatement.

 

[jameslee32]

 

[bigdaddy741]

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I'm okay with that but nearly every Kroger employee I've seen has been wearing their mask below their nose, or worse, on their flippin' chin.

 

[Bill Derington]

Better yet, can you imagine if the government tried to implement rationing nowadays?

A significant portion of the population would be screaming that no one could mandate how much meat, sugar, butter, eggs, etc. they can buy.

The concept of the "common good" died a while ago in this country. It's been replaced with "f u. I got mine."

I disagree, if it were a situation like WWII where it was a visible threat and we were at War, and the rationing of things made sense. I believe people would do all they could to help.

 

[Punkin Puss]

Contraception instead of using abortion as a form of birth control.

The government already provides money, food, and insurance to support families and children. Get rid of the welfare fraud, which runs rampant, and the taxes are already high enough.

My wife has a cousin that was pregnant with her second child she couldn't afford to raise without government assistance. The state gave her $500 to have her tubes tied and paid for the surgery. Maybe we should use something like that to keep people from having children they don't want or can't provide for. That is WAY more cost effective for taxpayers and the government.

I totally back your position on contraception. Much rather pay for people to get snipped if they want to have the procedure. Yet you have people and businesses that don't want health insurers to include it. Abstinence is always the sure policy.

Would like to see the partner has some say in a pregnancy. If they are willing to take custody of the child and support it. Barring rape and incest.

 

[UKWILDCAT2004]

I totally back your position on contraception. Much rather pay for people to get snipped if they want to have the procedure. Yet you have people and businesses that don't want health insurers to include it. Abstinence is always the sure policy.

Would like to see the partner has some say in a pregnancy. If they are willing to take custody of the child and support it. Barring rape and incest.

There isn't much you said that I disagree with. Pretty solid points.

 

[bigdaddy741]

I totally back your position on contraception. Much rather pay for people to get snipped if they want to have the procedure. Yet you have people and businesses that don't want health insurers to include it. Abstinence is always the sure policy.

Would like to see the partner has some say in a pregnancy. If they are willing to take custody of the child and support it. Barring rape and incest.

Are you saying that insurance companies don't want to pay for sterilization?

I wasn't aware of that but it's crazy they would not cover it.

Having a baby has to cost way more than those minor surgeries.

 

[Punkin Puss]

Are you saying that insurance companies don't want to pay for sterilization?

I wasn't aware of that but it's crazy they would not cover it.

Having a baby has to cost way more than those minor surgeries.

Well I thought the Hobby Lobby case is going back to the Supreme court. Where a employer can opt out of the ACA requirement on contraception coverage.
I'm kinda on the fence about it. I rather see people that can't afford it, get it.

 

[CatOfDaVille]

I disagree, if it were a situation like WWII where it was a visible threat and we were at War, and the rationing of things made sense. I believe people would do all they could to help.

I'm not so sure, but hopefully we won't have to find out in our lifetimes. Even 20 years ago I would have agreed with you, and we saw the unity of this nation after 9/11. It just seems that everything is too easily politicized nowadays to get back to that level of putting aside our differences in the face of a national threat.

 

[CB3UK]

Nazis killed as many Jews in 2 or 3 days at concentration camps as the coronavirus has managed to do in the entirety of the pandemic. Comparing the threat levels there is patently absurd. Of course youre going to have a harder time getting people to unify behind this as they did that......the level of insidious threat isnt remotely ****ing comparable.

 

[wildcatwelder]

I'm seeing more people driving, alone, in their car with masks on, LMAO.

I saw somewhere where someone posted a meme saying it's because of people that stupid that we have instructions on Pop Tarts.

 

[LowerLevelSeatA]

I really do wonder about the ones wearing masks while driving. Can anyone give a explanation why you do this? If they are wearing them in the car, then do they also wear the mask inside their house all day?

 

[sefus12]

I'm seeing more people driving, alone, in their car with masks on, LMAO.

I saw somewhere where someone posted a meme saying it's because of people that stupid that we have instructions on Pop Tarts.

It really goes to show the power of social media and the MSM combined with the inability of most anyone under 30 to question social media or think critically, or use common sense for that matter.

 

[ManitouDan]

Today is the day Emperor Andy's decree stands or gets withdrawn via restraining order , correct ?

 

[OldEvilleCat]

I may have missed this, but is there an official size requirement for "face coverings"? Does it just need to cover your nose and mouth or wrap around your whole face? Am I allowed to alter my mask or is that against the rules? If I'm 6 ft away do I still need to wear a mask?

Is there a website I can go to for this? I checked the CDC and read a few recommendations and things to do that may help slow the 'rona but nothing really concrete to prevent it.

 

[TopCat BBN]

Yes, I do when I go indoors & I don't have any respect for people who don't. I wouldn't want to be responsible for the death of anyone else's parents or grandparents & don't want my own to die of it. This whole thing has really exposed just how many selfish & stupid people we have in the U.S. The level of sheer dumbassery is mindboggling.

 

[wildcatwelder]

Today is the day Emperor Andy's decree stands or gets withdrawn via restraining order , correct ?

I think that's correct, but I don't see that it now matters too much, as most, if not all retailers are going forward on mandating the damn things in their stores. I'll be damned if I'll wear one in the parking lot, or anywhere outside for that matter.

 

[ManitouDan]

Call me whatever you wish , but I want the pleasure of making my own choice where/when I wear a mask.

 

[bigdaddy741]

I really do wonder about the ones wearing masks while driving. Can anyone give a explanation why you do this? If they are wearing them in the car, then do they also wear the mask inside their house all day?

I haven't done it on purpose but I have forgotten to take mine off after I got in my car.

I suppose I don't notice as much now because I've been wearing one 8-10 hours each day at work since May.

If people are wearing them on purpose in their cars I suppose they are ignorant or very scared of the virus.

 

[ryanbruner]

It's really odd to see grown men get so upset and sensitive over being told to do the right thing.

Today is the day Emperor Andy's decree stands or gets withdrawn via restraining order , correct ?

I think that's correct, but I don't see that it now matters too much, as most, if not all retailers are going forward on mandating the damn things in their stores. I'll be damned if I'll wear one in the parking lot, or anywhere outside for that matter.

 

[ManitouDan]

It's really odd to see grown men get so upset and sensitive over being told to do the right thing.

I think it either be by choice or by order of the Ky legislation, not a single person. I love freedom , I love the constitution , the 2nd and the 14h Amendment. I feel the response from the medical community has been inconsistent at best and immoral at its worst ( WHO ) . I think mask worn incorrectly does more harm than good . i think health dept's threatening small businesses ( I know this is going on !) is entirely wrong. So there is plenty of room for debate on the issue , but you wear one if you feel safer doing so , doesnt bother me any .

 

[ryanbruner]

I think it either be by choice or by order of the Ky legislation, not a single person. I love freedom , I love the constitution , the 2nd and the 14h Amendment. I feel the response from the medical community has been inconsistent at best and immoral at its worst ( WHO ) . I think mask worn incorrectly does more harm than good . i think health dept's threatening small businesses ( I know this is going on !) is entirely wrong. So there is plenty of room for debate on the issue , but you wear one if you feel safer doing so , doesnt bother me any .

Some people wearing masks and others not wearing mask results in nothing anyways so either we mandate masks or we spin around in circles like dumbasses. I’m safe regardless but I don’t wear a mask for myself.

 

[sefus12]

Some people wearing masks and others not wearing mask results in nothing anyways so either we mandate masks or we spin around in circles like dumbasses. I’m safe regardless but I don’t wear a mask for myself.

Glad you’re such a great person. Also, unless everyone wears a mask that is 100% effective at stopping the virus, masks won’t stop it from spreading.

Also, when did the goal become to stop all spread of a virus, especially one from a family we’ve never stopped before? Protect the vulnerable and let businesses and people decide how they want to protect their loved ones and themselves. Nothing about that is irresponsible.

 

[BBBLazing]

Call me whatever you wish , but I want the pleasure of making my own choice where/when I wear a mask.

And who you lie to in order to get around the rules?

 

[wildcatwelder]

Glad you’re such a great person. Also, unless everyone wears a mask that is 100% effective at stopping the virus, masks won’t stop it from spreading.

Also, when did the goal become to stop all spread of a virus, especially one from a family we’ve never stopped before? Protect the vulnerable and let businesses and people decide how they want to protect their loved ones and themselves. Nothing about that is irresponsible.

Spot on sir, spot on.

There is never going to be a time when we "stop" this thing, IMO. Virus's are just too damn hard to eradicate by their very nature. We can develop vaccines and herd immunity over time though.

The masks just don't work as people think they do, they just don't. Let those at risk, the elderly, those with significant health issues, etc, wear them, social distance, stay home, whatever, but let the rest of us live life to it's fullest. If someone is otherwise healthy, yet afraid of it, let them take the same precautions as the ones at risk, but to deny everyone else the opportunity to get back to normal, to destroy our economy, is simply reckless and uncalled for.

 

[ManitouDan]

And who you lie to in order to get around the rules?

Sure .. I do rolling stops at stop signs , drive 70 in 55 everyday , never wear a seat belt , and I told the folks at the store I had a health condition in order to get in a buy a pair of boots ... call the law on me .

 

[ryanbruner]

Glad you’re such a great person. Also, unless everyone wears a mask that is 100% effective at stopping the virus, masks won’t stop it from spreading.

Also, when did the goal become to stop all spread of a virus, especially one from a family we’ve never stopped before? Protect the vulnerable and let businesses and people decide how they want to protect their loved ones and themselves. Nothing about that is irresponsible.

I didn't say it would stop the spread and I never said that its 100% effective. Mfs across this country wear condoms that aren't 100% effective yet we wanna whine about the mask not being 100% effective lol. Its 0% effective when we act like bimbos and run around crying about our rights and decide to run around breathing on everyone out of spite. The point of the mask was for all of us to wear it that way we could slow the spread as a collective. You're arguing over something that you don't even understand. Thats fine too but lets be willing to educate ourselves please.

 

[cole854]

I didn't say it would stop the spread and I never said that its 100% effective. Mfs across this country wear condoms that aren't 100% effective yet we wanna whine about the mask not being 100% effective lol. Its 0% effective when we act like bimbos and run around crying about our rights and decide to run around breathing on everyone out of spite. The point of the mask was for all of us to wear it that way we could slow the spread as a collective. You're arguing over something that you don't even understand. Thats fine too but lets be willing to educate ourselves please.

So the week before Andy's tyrannical bs mandate.....what was your POV then? Does the virus magically get worse once a mandate is issued because that instills more fear?

 

[ryanbruner]

So the week before Andy's tyrannical bs mandate.....what was your POV then? Does the virus magically get worse once a mandate is issued because that instills more fear?

I think a lot of this is overblown but I don't think its a hoax. I do think wearing masks is a way to come to a compromise and also its just sanitary. Andy's mandate wasn't bs and he shouldn't have to tell people to wear a mask. They should just be doing it anyway. However there are so many people who are into dumbass politics who want to spite him and they want to act like gd idiots. It doesn't matter though both sides are full of shit and both sides are causing more problems than they're fixing. There are too many sheep in this country. That goes for the left and right.

 

[ryanbruner]

The left thinks they're woke because they tell you that we are all gonna die and the right thinks they're being woke by telling us this is some leftist conspiracy to destroy the universe with a death ray and take all of our rights. Both sides are bullshit and both sides are full of some dumbasses.

 

[UKvisitor]

Why anyone needs a mandate to wear a mask escapes my thinking.
Those claiming rights infringements escapes my thoughts and denies their own self preservation rights.

 

[sefus12]

I didn't say it would stop the spread and I never said that its 100% effective. Mfs across this country wear condoms that aren't 100% effective yet we wanna whine about the mask not being 100% effective lol. Its 0% effective when we act like bimbos and run around crying about our rights and decide to run around breathing on everyone out of spite. The point of the mask was for all of us to wear it that way we could slow the spread as a collective. You're arguing over something that you don't even understand. Thats fine too but lets be willing to educate ourselves please.

So if you don't wear a mask you're running around breathing on people out of spite?

My wife and I wear a mask when we go into stores and such, as we are supposed to, but not when we are out walking the dogs. We give people distance or quickly pass and don't yell in anyone's face. How is what we are doing wrong or helping spread a virus?

Also, what is an appropriate rate for how slowly a virus can spread? We were told that the initial requests were to avoid over-running the hospital system. We successfully did that. Are we just supposed to wear masks in perpetuity until all viruses are gone?

And if you say we now need to wear masks again because of the recent surge in positive tests, no one has any idea how bad that "surge" is because of the way states are reporting positives. Multiples tests of a single person, antibody positives, and assumed positives are all being lumped into the "new positives" numbers in areas. That doesn't tell a single story or even get into how many of the new "positives" are asymptomatic and, at least according to some studies, aren't nearly as likely to pass the virus on at that point.

While we're at it, when did the U.S., a society built on personal responsibility, go to a country based on "the greater good"? If you choose how to protect you and your loved ones, whether that be deciding to wear masks or deciding what stores/restaurants/etc to patron based on their protective measures and I did the same, how are we being irresponsible? And why should that decision be mandated by a single person?

And please tell me what I'm arguing about that I have no knowledge of.

 

[ryanbruner]

So if you don't wear a mask you're running around breathing on people out of spite?

My wife and I wear a mask when we go into stores and such, as we are supposed to, but not when we are out walking the dogs. We give people distance or quickly pass and don't yell in anyone's face. How what we are doing wrong or helping spread a virus?

Also, what is an appropriate rate for how slowly a virus can spread? We were told that the initial requests were to avoid over-running the hospital system. We successfully did that. Are we just supposed to wear masks in perpetuity until all viruses are gone?

And please tell me what I'm arguing about that I have no knowledge of.

If you wear your mask as you say then I'm not talking about you. Yes we have people all over the state spitefully doing dumb shit because they don't like the lib governor which is fckn irrelevant because a mask shouldn't be a political statement and to address the last paragraph you said that the mask mandate didn't make any sense because its not 100% effective....that would be nice if it were the case but the point of the mask isn't to kill the virus.

 

[ryanbruner]

I didn't say anything about the recent surge. The masks should be apart of our everyday lives until there is a vaccine as a precaution.

 

[sefus12]

I didn't say anything about the recent surge. The masks should be apart of our everyday lives until there is a vaccine as a precaution.

That's the whole point. No one is stopping you from wearing a mask anywhere you want on a daily basis.

But it also shouldn't be required. That's the whole argument.

 

[ryanbruner]

That's the whole point. No one is stopping you from wearing a mask anywhere you want on a daily basis.

But it also shouldn't be required. That's the whole argument.

I mean when its essential to prevent the collective spread of the virus at some level and there are people who refuse to wear it then yes it should be mandatory. Sometimes dumbasses don't deserve to make their own decisions.

 

[sefus12]

I mean when its essential to prevent the collective spread of the virus at some level and there are people who refuse to wear it then yes it should be mandatory. Sometimes dumbasses don't deserve to make their own decisions.

If that's the case we need to determine who a dumbass is and not let them vote, drive cars, own houses, or work in any job that interacts with people or makes decisions that could impact people.

At that point you basically have a weird version of Brave New World where the govt gets to decide who wins and who doesn't.

I get what you are saying, but our country is built on personal responsibility. Do your best to take care of you and yours. We know enough about this virus that the VAST majority of people really aren't in danger because of this. Protect who needs being protected and let people get back to normal.

Again, no one is stopping you from doing anything you think is reasonable to stay safe.

 

[-Mav-]

The masks should be apart of our everyday lives until there is a vaccine as a precaution.

What about those people for whom a vaccine doesn't work (like when I got the flu shot last year, but still got the flu)? Shouldn't we continue wearing masks as a precaution to protect those people? If not, why not? Don't their lives matter?

 

[ryanbruner]

What about those people for whom a vaccine doesn't work (like when I got the flu shot last year, but still got the flu)? Shouldn't we continue wearing masks as a precaution to protect those people? If not, why not? Don't their lives matter?

Did I say anything like that lmao?