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Where Does Cal Have To Finish This Upcoming Season To Stay at UK? (You are the AD)

Where Does Cal Have To Finish This Year To Stay at UK?


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I think the Sharpe fiasco (great word btw) was the icing on the cake
But it’s really no one thing..it’s a conglomerate of issues. One can explain away any one of those, but taken as a whole?
I’m going to say we need SEC regular season title, two wins in SECT , plus elite 8 AT THE MINIMUM
But those are easy criteria
I’m interested in seeing not only individual player, but team development..including the bench, offensive sets, learning to inbound, and solid defense. Quit playing thefavorites just because they’re NBA bound, unless they’re doing their job and quit the mindless screaming.

that might be asking for too much though
The inbounding problems are ridiculous, I’ve never seen a team with a huge lead cough up the ball to a press like some of our teams do. It’s baffling that they don’t have an inbound play that works. I would pressure the hell out of our team inbounding as much as possible.
 
This is his last chance. Before this year I was ready to give Cal two shots to win the title. Last year looked really good until it didn’t.

Last chance to prove he can keep up as most of the old guard with him has moved on.
I know I’m in the minority to an extent. And I can appreciate most fans being more patient than me. It’s a good trait to have, but when it comes to the Cats, guess I don’t have much. But it can be a bad thing too. Sometimes, you just have to say enough is enough, and start over. I reached enough is enough several years ago. Been drug through the mud endlessly for it too, but, like Cal, I’m stubborn. I can’t stop being a fan of UK, and I can’t give in to what I think is the wrong path to follow, so I’ll press on, and, eventually, I will see some semblance of Kentucky basketball again. If I live long enough.
 
Well some have had pretty lrge buy outs but nobody else pays their coach 9M a year and guaranteed him a lifetime(really 10 year). 4-5 years is plenty long enough of an extension.
52,000,000.00. He ain’t going anywhere as long as he satisfies his contract. Get real. Ain’t happening.
 
We all know that a great deal of the fan base is unsatisfied with Cal currently.

We also know that at the moment, Cal will be here this upcoming season (unless something crazy occurs).

So, you get to be Mitch. You can’t fire Cal at present. No funds available. But you’re making preparations for the end of next season.

If you are Mitch, where must Cal lead the team next year to keep his position?
What if Cal fails to expectations next season but is guaranteed to land Wagner in 23?
 
What if Cal fails to expectations next season but is guaranteed to land Wagner in 23?
Civil war between the fans and the University. Lots of season ticket holder not renew. Could see a lot go south for the external perception of the program.

But all depends on how Cal does this year. We did petty well until February. If Cal can put together last year with a good postseason? It’ll be fine.
 
Laugh. Results don’t suck and we have a segemebtbof fans that have gone full asshole. They deserve it
We deserve it huh?

Results don’t suck? How have we looked the past two years bud?

I’ve defend Cal through a lot. He’s out of chances. Plent of clouds outside for you to go yell at so please do.
 
Will be more pressure on this team next year than any in 25+ years. Probably have to go back to '96 team after UNC flameout the year prior.
 
We deserve it huh?

Results don’t suck? How have we looked the past two years bud?

I’ve defend Cal through a lot. He’s out of chances. Plent of clouds outside for you to go yell at so please do.
Not we. The haters. The ones that have slung crap relentlessly for weeks and weeks.

last year was COVID. This year till the injuries happened we looked very good. Last year was not one loss to a final 8 team.

Sorry you can’t cope.
 
it is unfair and i think it puts too much pressure on the team but i feal like it will take a final four to satisfy the fans next year.
as far as firing him unless he misses the tourny or gets in trouble i dont see any way and ad could fire a hofer coach. as much as i dont like it
Gets in trouble? We know he is a pretty wild man. maybe he will get into one of those Billy Clyde golf matches at 1AM?
 
Laugh. Results don’t suck and we have a segment of fans that have gone full asshole. They deserve it
So you are fine with UK racking up a bunch of cupcake wins to pad the win/loss record and say that those results are great ?? Answer that honestly....and you are also fine with ZERO tournament wins as long as we beat all the cupcakes ?? Same deal....and you are also fine with having a none and done recruit who really could have helped this injured team (I will give you injured, although I think that TYTY the Tin Man was not going full throttle in the later part of the year due to said none and done) (and I wont mention the rumors cuz I dont 100% believe rumors) you are fine with all that ?? you sure ?? Now, they did demolish UNC and KU during the season, but is that enough big wins to say the results are great ??....now, back to the winless tournament games (not to mention that the SEC regular season and tourney were not what we expect here at UK)....does 2 years of no NCAA Tourney wins sound like acceptable results ?? NOT in my house, and I see enough on this board to know it is NOT in a lot of houses...i have seen indisputable data posted on here that shows it is almost identical to BCG final 2 years....is that true ?? are you gonna dodge that one too ??

One more thing....these not so fantastic results that compare to Tubbys last 5 years and BCG's last 2 years have been accomplished with MUCH MORE superior talent....is that acceptable coaching ?? you ran the other 2 off for that crap

Now, dont start in with the contract and buyout and say that we cannot fire him due to that....I already know that and so does the rest of the English speaking World....and somebody may come up with some cash for a surprise shocking buyout, who knows....we never thought we would see a none and done at UK either....but guess what happened....now, he could still come back and i hope he does....he is phenomenal....he would make TyTy, Grady, Wheeler & Mintz look like High School guys....shame that some kind of Calipari smokescreen is preventing us from know exactly why he didnt play this year....that truth will come out in time, and it will be National News when it does....there might be something in there that would give Cal the owner of some "conduct that is unbecoming of a UK coach" or maybe "lack of Institutional Control", as was the case at Mempiss and UMass....notice I threw that Mempiss in there for you and your buddy Grom....
 
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So you are fine with UK racking up a bunch of cupcake wins to pad the win/loss record and say that those results are great ?? Answer that honestly....and you are also fine with ZERO tournament wins as long as we beat all the cupcakes ?? Same deal....and you are also fine with having a none and done recruit who really could have helped this injured team (I will give you injured, although I think that TYTY the Tin Man was not going full throttle in the later part of the year due to said none and done) (and I wont mention the rumors cuz I dont 100% believe rumors) you are fine with all that ?? you sure ?? Now, they did demolish UNC and KU during the season, but is that enough big wins to say the results are great ??....now, back to the winless tournament games (not to mention that the SEC regular season and tourney were not what we expect here at UK)....does 2 years of no NCAA Tourney wins sound like acceptable results ?? NOT in my house, and I see enough on this board to know it is NOT in a lot of houses...i have seen indisputable data posted on here that shows it is almost identical to BCG final 2 years....is that true ?? are you gonna dodge that one too ??

One more thing....these not so fantastic results that compare to Tubbys last 5 years and BCG's last 2 years have been accomplished with MUCH MORE superior talent....is that acceptable coaching ?? you ran the other 2 off for that crap

Now, dont start in with the contract and buyout and say that we cannot fire him due to that....I already know that and so does the rest of the English speaking World....and somebody may come up with some cash for a surprise shocking buyout, who knows....we never thought we would see a none and done at UK either....but guess what happened....now, he could still come back and i hope he does....he is phenomenal....he would make TyTy, Grady, Wheeler & Mintz look like High School guys....shame that some kind of Calipari smokescreen is preventing us from know exactly why he didnt play this year....that truth will come out in time, and it will be National News when it does....there might be something in there that would give Cal the owner of some "conduct that is unbecoming of a UK coach" or maybe "lack of Institutional Control", as was the case at Mempiss and UMass....notice I threw that Mempiss in there for you and your buddy Grom....
Yeah, Kansas and The Filth were cupcakes. They only made it to the championship. We had a nice strength of schedule. Clearly you don't recognize facts when they present. Not surprising. Of course, I'm sure you don't believe that COVID rumor. You Crychickens are probably immune. And this year's loss was to a final 8 team which was the most under seeded team EVERY. We had or were recovering from 3 guard injuries. Shit happens. Anyone with an athletic background knows this. All old news. Im guessing you got an old copy of the Hater Gazette.

Your indisputable data just says 2 of Cal's worst years were better than BCG's best. LOL!!!

I'm guessing you must be drunk. Your post rambling and unreadable. Let me try to do the cliff notes since that's more than you deserve. Sharpe is not relevant except to those with no coping skills. There has been no Calipari smokescreen. That's utter babbling bullshit. Cal was never implicated in either Mempiss or UMASS. In at least one case received a letter from the NCAA acknowledging he was a victim and not a purp.

Go sober up, Lowcut.
 
Yeah, Kansas and The Filth were cupcakes. They only made it to the championship. We had a nice strength of schedule. Clearly you don't recognize facts when they present. Not surprising. Of course, I'm sure you don't believe that COVID rumor. You Crychickens are probably immune. And this year's loss was to a final 8 team which was the most under seeded team EVERY. We had or were recovering from 3 guard injuries. Shit happens. Anyone with an athletic background knows this. All old news. Im guessing you got an old copy of the Hater Gazette.

Your indisputable data just says 2 of Cal's worst years were better than BCG's best. LOL!!!

I'm guessing you must be drunk. Your post rambling and unreadable. Let me try to do the cliff notes since that's more than you deserve. Sharpe is not relevant except to those with no coping skills. There has been no Calipari smokescreen. That's utter babbling bullshit. Cal was never implicated in either Mempiss or UMASS. In at least one case received a letter from the NCAA acknowledging he was a victim and not a purp.

Go sober up, Lowcut.
I knew you would not answer....
 
Yeah, Kansas and The Filth were cupcakes. They only made it to the championship. We had a nice strength of schedule. Clearly you don't recognize facts when they present. Not surprising. Of course, I'm sure you don't believe that COVID rumor. You Crychickens are probably immune. And this year's loss was to a final 8 team which was the most under seeded team EVERY. We had or were recovering from 3 guard injuries. Shit happens. Anyone with an athletic background knows this. All old news. Im guessing you got an old copy of the Hater Gazette.

Your indisputable data just says 2 of Cal's worst years were better than BCG's best. LOL!!!

I'm guessing you must be drunk. Your post rambling and unreadable. Let me try to do the cliff notes since that's more than you deserve. Sharpe is not relevant except to those with no coping skills. There has been no Calipari smokescreen. That's utter babbling bullshit. Cal was never implicated in either Mempiss or UMASS. In at least one case received a letter from the NCAA acknowledging he was a victim and not a purp.

Go sober up, Lowcut.
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Good to know that UK was the only school that had to deal with the pandemic….
Pretty much every young team was in trouble. More experienced teams had a distinct advantage. Stick your head in the sand if you want but facts is facts.
 
Only by the weirdo fans.

Don't think so. We are on a 7 year FF draught on the back of one of if not the worst seasons in our history and a loss to 15 seed in first round with the NPOY.

Tell me another time that a UK team will have been under a microscope by most of our fan base more than next year.

I'm optimistic about next season too...the above is just reality. No one is going to care if they are 32-2, 30-4 or 28-6 going into tourney. We haven't won a tournament game in 3 years.
 
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Based on his contract (which the decision had to be based on) I’d give him 2 more years. If those 2 years don’t result in a Final Four, I’d start the conversation about transitioning into the administrative role. He’s eligible to transition to that role on July 1, 2024. If he doesn’t want to, then his buyout is at $33 million. I’d start negotiating his buy out.

If he does move to the administrative role, I’d probably pull the trigger on that pretty quick to get rid of him. I just don’t think it would be healthy having him around the program. His buyout for that, would only be about $4 million.

That’s my plan!
 
Based on his contract (which the decision had to be based on) I’d give him 2 more years. If those 2 years don’t result in a Final Four, I’d start the conversation about transitioning into the administrative role. He’s eligible to transition to that role on July 1, 2024. If he doesn’t want to, then his buyout is at $33 million. I’d start negotiating his buy out.

If he does move to the administrative role, I’d probably pull the trigger on that pretty quick to get rid of him. I just don’t think it would be healthy having him around the program. His buyout for that, would only be about $4 million.

That’s my plan!

See I have long thought he would retire at end of 2024 but when you type it out I struggle to think he even does then. You may be right, depending on results, UK could have to buy him out eventually anyway. What person is going to walk away from another $29-$33M?
 
Don't think so. We are on a 7 year FF draught on the back of one of if not the worst seasons in our history and a loss to 15 seed in first round with the NPOY.

Tell me another time that a UK team will have been under a microscope by most of our fan base more than next year.

I'm optimistic about next season too...the above is just reality. No one is going to care of they are 32-2, 30-4 or 28-6 going into tourney. We haven't won a tournament game in 3 years.
As I have said many times. Get real.

First .to set a tone for your drama girl post, we haven’t won a game in 2 years. One year there wasn’t a tournament. Now that we have established that your post is full of fake drama, let’s look at some facts.

The results this past year were not bad. The were tainted by the most underseeded team in history and injuries. Mysteriously you left that part out. 3 of four guards recovering or injured. Omitted from your drama laced post. This is typical.

Here is where you come unglued. Nobody in a authority is going to spend millions on the impassioned cries from a collection of drama queens. They will be objective. It doesn’t matter that you can misquote facts and omit information to make a pathetic case. They will consider everything. Ky has chosen its coach. Accept it, leave or cry like a little girl. Those are your choices.
 
As I have said many times. Get real.

First .to set a tone for your drama girl post, we haven’t won a game in 2 years. One year there wasn’t a tournament. Now that we have established that your post is full of fake drama, let’s look at some facts.

The results this past year were not bad. The were tainted by the most underseeded team in history and injuries. Mysteriously you left that part out. 3 of four guards recovering or injured. Omitted from your drama laced post. This is typical.

Here is where you come unglued. Nobody in a authority is going to spend millions on the impassioned cries from a collection of drama queens. They will be objective. It doesn’t matter that you can misquote facts and omit information to make a pathetic case. They will consider everything. Ky has chosen its coach. Accept it, leave or cry like a little girl. Those are your choices.

You are using words like drama, typical, misquoting facts, etc.

None of this is true. Most on this board will tell you I'm about as level headed as it gets in terms of our program and coach.

I'm not calling for Cals head. I'm just telling you facts my friend, like it or not.

Facts-

We haven't won a tournament game in 3 years (yes two tournaments)- it was 2019....20, 21, 22 (that's 3 years). In our two chances we didn't make it and had a losing record and the other we lost to a 15 seed. Excusing that is beyond bizarre and I highly doubt Cal himself does.

I have stated this past team was good if not great until injuries got really bad. Doesn't change anything in the minds of most of BBN.

The pressure is real. Players may not feel it and I hope they don't.

You should try posting without insults. Not everyone is out to get you.
 
You are using words like drama, typical, misquoting facts, etc.

None of this is true. Most on this board will tell you I'm about as level headed as it gets in terms of our program and coach.

I'm not calling for Cals head. I'm just telling you facts my friend, like it or not.

Facts-

We haven't won a tournament game in 3 years (yes two tournaments)- it was 2019....20, 21, 22 (that's 3 years). In our two chances we didn't make it and had a losing record and the other we lost to a 15 seed. Excusing that is beyond bizarre and I highly doubt Cal himself does.

I have stated this past team was good if not great until injuries got really bad. Doesn't change anything in the minds of most of BBN.

The pressure is real. Players may not feel it and I hope they don't.

You should try posting without insults. Not everyone is out to get you.

Hard to post without insults when a self proclaimed level headed drama queen continues to misrepresent the truth. You can’t win a game if there is no tournament. Fact. Your 15 seed was unique in all of history as the most underseeded EVER. Fact. We had three of four guards injured or recovering. Fact. A center NPOY is hamstrung when you take out his guards. Fact. The losing season was influenced by COVID. Fact.

It doesn’t matter how many Nancy’s you find to huddle with, the people that will spend the buyout will deal in fact. All the facts, not only the petty drama laced ones. It’s not that bad. You started believing your own propaganda.

You don’t want insults, grow up. This is KY. Stop making us look stupid and weak. Hard to distinguish your type from a U6 fan.
 
Hard to post without insults when a self proclaimed level headed drama queen continues to misrepresent the truth. You can’t win a game if there is no tournament. Fact. Your 15 seed was unique in all of history as the most underseeded EVER. Fact. We had three of four guards injured or recovering. Fact. A center NPOY is hamstrung when you take out his guards. Fact. The losing season was influenced by COVID. Fact.

It doesn’t matter how many Nancy’s you find to huddle with, the people that will spend the buyout will deal in fact. All the facts, not only the petty drama laced ones. It’s not that bad. You started believing your own propaganda.

You don’t want insults, grow up. This is KY. Stop making us look stupid and weak. Hard to distinguish your type from a U6 fan.

Wow. Guess you are as bad as some think.
 
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I just tell the truth. You are down to three choices. Support the cats, leave or go full drama queen.

I can make my own choices Grandpa and I get to make any I choose- not one set by some random faceless account.

I've been a fan since I was a kid and I will still be a fan no matter what happens. Went to UK and support UK annually. Go to Cals camps with my boys, etc.

Still can have opinions that are objective and based on reality. You are having laughs debating the difference between years and seasons....while making up nonsense about most underseeded 15 ever...laughable.
 
I can make my own choices Grandpa and I get to make any I choose- not one set by some random faceless account.

I've been a fan since I was a kid and I will still be a fan no matter what happens. Went to UK and support UK annually. Go to Cals camps with my boys, etc.

Still can have opinions that are objective and based on reality. You are having laughs debating the difference between years and seasons....while making up nonsense about most underseeded 15 ever...laughable.
Didn’t figure you for being an ageist bigot, but some small minded people are. Clearly you don’t deal in facts. Let’s prove that.

No 15 seed has EVER made it to the final 8. This one did. They were under seeded by 57 -60 places. Most ever in history. An NCAA record. Laugh at facts that don’t fit your drama queen agenda. Just proves my point. Your choices are to support the program. Quit. Cry over the inevitable.
 
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