Louie Dampier, Pat Riley and Ralph Beard are all in the Hall of Fame.
You must not be aware UK basketball started with Pitino and Mashburn.Anyone who believes this is only between Ulis and Wall is showing their age….
He was 3rd in the nation in assists per game. He had two all-SEC first team guys, and an SEC all-freshmen player. What else do you want him to do so that he "makes the others around him better"?A BIG part of being a point guard is making the other players around you better.
I didn't see that with Wall.
I'm not sure UK has had a guard any more talented than the BlurDwight Anderson says “Hello”
This is where fans lose ALL credibility. Saying Ulis was a liability on defense. He was defense player of the year in the SEC.Without question, Wall was the best PG we've ever had.
Many will say Ullis, because he's a heartfelt favorite player, but Wall could take over a game. Ullis was a bit of a liability on defense. You could put him in a screen and take any shot you wanted. The 4 always had to help.
Wall was the only PG that ive seen catch lobs and dunk on people. Fox did a little bit, but Wall would just poster you.
We've also never had a PG like Wall that could take a rebound and run through the entire defense and dunk it. Wall could also block anyone, from a guard to a center. One of my favorite plays was when he blocked UT's 3 pointer and nearly palmed it.
I cant believe this is even debatable....
He was the SEC defensive player of the year. Really? A liability on defense?Without question, Wall was the best PG we've ever had.
Many will say Ullis, because he's a heartfelt favorite player, but Wall could take over a game. Ullis was a bit of a liability on defense. You could put him in a screen and take any shot you wanted. The 4 always had to help.
Wall was the only PG that ive seen catch lobs and dunk on people. Fox did a little bit, but Wall would just poster you.
We've also never had a PG like Wall that could take a rebound and run through the entire defense and dunk it. Wall could also block anyone, from a guard to a center. One of my favorite plays was when he blocked UT's 3 pointer and nearly palmed it.
I cant believe this is even debatable....
That’s just mean. I must askew why you’re still making fun of him.Devin Askew?????
Turner was great. I'm not sure you can credit him for 1996, i dont think he saw the floor much. Maybe im wrong, but he definitely didnt take us in 1996.Wayne Turner the best so far end of story pg 96 97 98 he took the cats to 3 championship games during this span and won 2 of them Ralph beard only other guard that's close macy 3rd
He was there I go by banners when critiquing players and their impact on the team and without Wayne Turner he was very vital in 96 Wayne really came on toward the end of that 96 seasonTurner was great. I'm not sure you can credit him for 1996, i dont think he saw the floor much. Maybe im wrong, but he definitely didnt take us in 1996.
Well, this is a silly way-over simplistic way of thinking. Hell, by this logic, Robert Horry and Steve Kerr were two of the greatest players in NBA history …after all, they kept finding themselves on the rosters winning banners.He was there I go by banners when critiquing players and their impact on the team and without Wayne Turner he was very vital in 96 Wayne really came on toward the end of that 96 season
Anthony Epps says hey.He was there I go by banners when critiquing players and their impact on the team and without Wayne Turner he was very vital in 96 Wayne really came on toward the end of that 96 season
You got to come stronger than that not impressedWell, this is a silly way-over simplistic way of thinking. Hell, by this logic, Robert Horry and Steve Kerr were two of the greatest players in NBA history …after all, they kept finding themselves on the rosters winning banners.
Turner was a mere bench player who got only 13 minutes per game on one title team, and he wasn’t even our best guard on the other. I loved the guy, but NO way is he in contention for “best guard ever” honors.
How about this: Turner didn't play in the championship, had 2 points in 6 minutes in the FF, 0 points in 8 minutes in sweet 16. He had 12 points, 4 assists over the entire tournament. He was not a factor in the 1996 run.You got to come stronger than that not impressed
Had 238 steals #1 Kentucky #4 in assists and 1170 points played in 151 games 3 final 4s 3 championship games and 2 championships again best guard to ever play at KentuckyHow about this: Turner didn't play in the championship, had 2 points in 6 minutes in the FF, 0 points in 8 minutes in sweet 16. He had 12 points, 4 assists over the entire tournament. He was not a factor in the 1996 run.
Do you honestly think that UK would have not won the tournament in 98 if John Wall was the point guard instead of Wayne Turner? Do you really think that the National Player of the Year and his 17ppg and 6.5 apg(3rd nationally) would not be able to do what Wayne Turner did?He was there I go by banners when critiquing players and their impact on the team and without Wayne Turner he was very vital in 96 Wayne really came on toward the end of that 96 seseason.
That’s a good question.Do you honestly think that UK would have not won the tournament in 98 if John Wall was the point guard instead of Wayne Turner? Do you really think that the National Player of the Year and his 17ppg and 6.5 apg(3rd nationally) would not be able to do what Wayne Turner did?
Not debating whether he had a great career. Just correcting you on your incorrect statement that Turner "was very vital in 96."Had 238 steals #1 Kentucky #4 in assists and 1170 points played in 151 games 3 final 4s 3 championship games and 2 championships again best guard to ever play at Kentucky
Win a championshipHe was 3rd in the nation in assists per game. He had two all-SEC first team guys, and an SEC all-freshmen player. What else do you want him to do so that he "makes the others around him better"?
John wall had 4 #1 nba draft choices starting with him and how many banners did he get I am waitingDo you honestly think that UK would have not won the tournament in 98 if John Wall was the point guard instead of Wayne Turner? Do you really think that the National Player of the Year and his 17ppg and 6.5 apg(3rd nationally) would not be able to do what Wayne Turner did?
Respectfully, Richie ... IMHO, neither Tyler Ulis nor Wayne Turner deserves to be mentioned in response to this question. Each of them was a great player who was an invaluable part of a great team, but ...Tyler Ulis. Ralph Beard. Delk. Turner. It's hard to say. Talent wise? Wall probably.
John wall had 4 #1 nba draft choices starting with him and how many banners did he get I am waiting
-John Wall was there only one year.Win a championship
No one mentioned Meeks because this is Kentucky, it's not Jodie Meeks. This is not a one man University and that's really a bad answer.Been a lot of names dropped here but one I've not seen that deserves to be in the conversation is Meeks. Dude scored 23.7 ppg on good efficiency when he was one of the only options to score and defenses KNEW he was going to be shooting.
But agree with most that Wall and 96 Delk are pretty much the top choices from my lifetime.
There isn't much material difference between a 2 or 3, especially in the game today. Whether one is a guard or forward is often a product of the other players on the team. The 6'5'' player might be a 2 guard on a big team, but a 3 on a small team. It's practically up to the whim of whatever letter the coach wants to put next to the player's name.He was in the same sort of spot as Anderson for me, as a guy who could be a guard but could be a SF, and played at the 3 a lot.
No but Anthony Davis was-John Wall was there only one year.
With your championship or bust logic, Scott Padgett is better than Jamal Mashburn.