"Was Cal right....."
No sir. Not about anything since 2012.
No sir. Not about anything since 2012.
Was Cal right about Perry and maybe Noah?
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They can both shoot that’s all you need to know. Glad they’re at UK
I've been pleasantly surprised by both. I wasn't expecting much, but they have done OK in their "forced to play" roles. I look forward to them playing for 4 years here, although I don't think they will be superstars. I think they will both be fan favorites and get some decent playing time for us.
They will both be really good as they physically mature plus they love KENTUCKY.
They are freshmen, and Cal always hated recruiting Kentucky players because the fans wanted them and Cal hated bowing to our fans.
I don't think anybody expected Noah and Perry to be real contributors before the season. They've been thrust into the rotation out of necessity.
Chris Lofton was a 1st team All-American!!!!
I like Perry and think he can and will keep contributing and get better every year, I don't know if he will EVER get to Lofton's level. I hope you are right and I am wrong!!!
He's not going to be anywhere near Steve.
I'd be happy if he was as good as Bryce.
Perry and Noah both a -3 on a night we win by 30.
I think Pope's comments about not shorting the rotation was a lot of coach speak.
He might not shorten the rotation but the hook will definitely be quicker when you're not performing as evidenced by Perry sitting for about 30 min straight tonight.
I think Pope's comments about not shorting the rotation was a lot of coach speak.
He might not shorten the rotation but the hook will definitely be quicker when you're not performing as evidenced by Perry sitting for about 30 min straight tonight.
Yes and no.
They do not fit what UK was trying to be under Cal. They don't have the NBA allure so Cal didn't really care.
Now will they probably grow into respectable role players. Yeah
Will they be a first round pick? No and that's okay.
They're doing fine for real freshman, who were supposed to at best be role players and practice bodies this year with the chance to develop and grow into more why can't our fans see that.
They do not fit what UK was trying to be under Cal. They don't have the NBA allure so Cal didn't really care.
Now will they probably grow into respectable role players. Yeah
Will they be a first round pick? No and that's okay.
They're doing fine for real freshman, who were supposed to at best be role players and practice bodies this year with the chance to develop and grow into more why can't our fans see that.
Cal has not been right about anything in about 10 plus years, he is arrogant, still runs the same antiquated offense, and trust me Cal doesn't improve players, every noticed how much better most of them are in the pro's than in college.
I think he was 2nd team AA, but still he was an AA.
It is really amazing how good Lofton was, given his lack of athleticism. He is probably the only UT player that I've not disliked. Their current PG is maybe the 2nd. Lofton was the college basketball equivalent of Tony Gwynn for the Padres or Kirby Pucket for the Twins.
It’s too early to tell . Give the young guys time to develop .
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Don’t think either are big, athletic or quick enough to play in the SEC. I hope they develop but I just don’t see it. At least Chandler has the athleticism.
Recall watching Pelphrey, Feldhaus and Farmer all develop so I am not worried.
Correct assessment for his system/program.
As for me, I want to see what four years in Pope's system does to their games. I bet both are valuable rotations pieces as upperclassmen.
As for me, I want to see what four years in Pope's system does to their games. I bet both are valuable rotations pieces as upperclassmen.
Perry should not have been counted on for as much time as he got due to injuries to out guards. He should have gotten mop up minutes so he could learn how the college game is verses high school. But we had no choice. I think this will be a plus in his development going forward. Big difference playing in high school and playing in college especially this year in the SEC. Toughest SEC I have ever seen since I have been watching UK and that has been almost forever.
I can’t even remember 1/2 of the guys that played here under the last coach. I will read about one of them years after they were here for one season and read they played at UK and think, really? But, I can remember rosters back before the previous coach got here back to 1962. Both Perry
and Noah will be very good four year guys. Noah has a lot of Pratt in him.
and Noah will be very good four year guys. Noah has a lot of Pratt in him.
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So, let me get this straight.
You all bash a coach if they don't recruit in state players. So, Pope has 3 including Zach Tow. Two of them has played some great minutes and all you do is bash them.
I mean why come to Kentucky if your own fans trash your play. They are both solid players, but It's not like they were 5 Star recruits.
I've seen toddlers with more common sense than a lot of posters on this board.
You all bash a coach if they don't recruit in state players. So, Pope has 3 including Zach Tow. Two of them has played some great minutes and all you do is bash them.
I mean why come to Kentucky if your own fans trash your play. They are both solid players, but It's not like they were 5 Star recruits.
I've seen toddlers with more common sense than a lot of posters on this board.
Not sure how old the OP is, but do a little Kentucky research of John Pelphrey, Deron Feldhaus and Rickie Farmer. They didn't contribute a lick as freshman, By their senior year, they became three of the most loved Wildcats of all-time. Sprinkle in some elite talent and they will have a great career. I love having a few guys that develop and stay with the program all four years. We have been spoiled by having the elite freshman in years past, but I love both of their games. If we had a break down, elite player to break down a defense to open up the perimeter, we would really see both of them shine. I will take these two any day of the week.
Some great basketball teams were not loaded with NBA stars. In fact, there are few. Cals method worked freakishly well until it didn't. He just couldn't change from it.
At worst, I think Perry can be a solid back-up PG, though I don’t think his ceiling is too high unless he can shoot 45% from 3. I actually think Noah can turn into a solid starter. Kid has a great engine and is a much better rebounder than I expected, especially for his size. Don’t think he’ll ever sniff all-SEC or anything, but I can definitely see him being the guy that cause other fans to ask “how did he get 11 and 7?” at the end of games.
I think Chandler has the highest ceiling of our three fresh. He looks the part of an SEC 2. Once he gets more minutes and a bit stronger, I think he can absolutely be a solid contributor for multiple years.
I think Chandler has the highest ceiling of our three fresh. He looks the part of an SEC 2. Once he gets more minutes and a bit stronger, I think he can absolutely be a solid contributor for multiple years.
Everybody standing up for Perry and Noah are Kentucky homers, those boys should be playing at Morehead. No foot speed, no hops, shot not falling. When they are on the floor the defenders jam up the three point line and never fear that they will drive. Every player they guard in the SEC blows by them. They get their shots blocked. Comeon, those are the kind of players you play and you'll lose your job as a coach. The are both averaging 2.6 points a game. So they don't even score when they're on the floor. If they weren't from your Lilly white hometown you would be screaming for better players.
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None of the current freshmen have his ability. But TP may have started as many games here.
Weird.
DNS : coaches decision.
Weirder still.
Uhhhhh, we sorta had to play them.
They are improving.
Richie and Cameron say hey.
Keyboard coaches...still undefeated.
How's that improving hight, speed and athleticism gonna work out. Is there a pill they can take? Cameron was a spot up limited duty shooter which is the only role for Perry. Ritchie played on a team before we got better and recruited really good players. he couldn't play in the sec today.
I like senior night, and don't want it to end. These type of players give us a better chance at that, as well as some roster stability.
My goodness. Perry is a true freshman and because he’s not at the level of a five year player or a phenom like Flagg, he’s somehow terrible?
It’s okay to have role players.
It’s okay to have role players.
Indeed they can. The issue is how they get cooked on defense constantly. What good is it if always give up much more than they score? And that’s most always the case.
I’m not even gonna mention the turnovers….
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