Was Cal right about Perry and maybe Noah?
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Maybe he could be similar to Roger Harden or best case scenario, like Travis Ford?
If we are not going to raise some big time nil money for two to three elite players a year. Than we will have to rely on non burger boys to stick around and develop ,hope that works out . Alot on here seem to overwhelmingly not want elite 1 to 2 year players anymore . I hope I am wrong, but if fanbases don't adapt to the new nil environment we will take a hit in the hardware brought home, and the win and loss column . You have to have a couple of these elite players to mix in with local and transfer talent . Go cats
This will be the future at Kentucky if fans don't support nil no way around it . You can't win big year in and year out without some eliteness on your team . If you're complaining about the talent level and complaining about nil then you better go play some pickle ball fishing or shopping reading a good book etc..
If Kentucky has to depend on these two players for next season, we are in a world of hurt.
Do you expect them to mysteriously become much faster/quicker than they are currently? I for one don't see it. I am not sure if Collins is going to pan out either, but he has a better chance than the other two.
It should be noted the OP HATED freshmen Dominique Hawkins and Ravi Moss as well
I know Dominique Hawkins and Ravi Moss; neither of our freshmen are close to the aforementioned players.
There’s really no comparison for Perry to Ford. Basketball wise.
Perry compares to Patrick Sparks. But he’s better than Sparks was.
Yes, he was. Cal was right to offer Perry and he did. And kept going to Perry’s games even after he committed.
He was right to not chase Noah. We didn’t have room for him and he is not right for a Cal team.
But Cal is not here and Noah looks like a perfect Pope player.
I think he should be playing more now. I would have played him in Robinson’s place when he got hurt.
Between the two I think now that Noah is going to be the better college player.
Not sure what you were expecting, but Perry was never going to be another Shepherd. He never had the athleticism Shepherd has. Competition matters when you are scoring that many points and he just didn’t play the athletes he is seeing right now. He will get better, but barring a miraculous, communist style steroidal transformation, he is never going to be a successful P5 starting PG. That doesn’t mean he can’t be a Kerr+ type backup.
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I played against Ravi and coached against Dominique. They’re both better than Moss and Hawkins were as freshmen, heck even as sophomores.
Way different skill sets. Ravi and Dominique were way better defenders and penetrators. Both are related to their abundantly better athleticism.
Noah and Perry are better shooters and have better basketball instincts, especially Noah. The jury is still out on Noah and Perry being successful as hardwork can do wonders. Both need tons of it.
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As much as I love nostalgia, they weren’t defenders or penetrators as freshmen though. Not even as sophomores. I was pleasantly surprised their Jr years as I worried they may not pan out as contributors. Noah’s physicality & rebounding are way ahead of where they both were. It’s easy to have revisionist history about guys who played so many years ago and remember them for how they ended rather than how they started. I remember them well since I had firsthand experience with both guys in different capacities.
Yep it would be like when people talk about Immanuel Quickley people remember the 2020 season more than the 2019 version. Sometimes it takes awhile before you see the talent develop. Are Perry and Noah top-shelf athletes? No. But you don’t always have to be a top shelf athlete to be a good basketball player. Steve Nash, Dirk Nowitzki, Nikola Jokic and John Stockton are hall of fame NBA players and none of those were super athletes.
Exactly. They may never be All-SEC caliber players but they can eventually be solid contributors. Both have the work ethic, IQ, & skill set to be valuable. I don’t think anyone should write them off based on their first year with a team full of seasoned players in a historically good conference. A few years of conditioning, agility work, & strength training will completely change guys who have their work ethic.
They can hit the weight room over the summer and improve their strength a lot. May make them a little faster. Only time will tell.
Not what you are if you think Sparks was better than Perry
I watched both of them grow up.
It’s really not a close call.
Noah does the little things that don’t show up in the stats but every team needs someone like him.
If he is doing little things, they are so little that they are truly unseen.
Hard to debate that he’s no reed Shepard? You think? Lol. They aren’t even in the same ball park.
We are used to five star freshman rammed down our throat with Cal. Whether they performed or not they got a big leash. Now we have four year kids recruited being forced into action and we expect five star results and early round exits. We still need good players, but stupid for UK not to use all scholarships and let these kids play here. Noah took something like 150 photos with fans at the 13th regional tournament this week. Pope choosing these kids has brought the Kentucky fans back together.
Bro, he raved on and on about how great Wheeler was a few years ago. lol
yes, he was right in the fact that they were not top 10 recruits and that it would take them some time to develop
something he had no interest in waiting for/and/or doing
most UK fans are intelligent enough to understand this
In the age of NIL, roster optimization isn't just limited to roster space.
If Perry and Noah are both relatively cheap, we get pretty good bang for our buck.
We have to fill out a roster with price considerations. We aren't going to have it filled with fantastic college players 1-12.
Kentucky kids who probably aren't terribly expensive that have a chance to develop over the years might be free money.
If Perry and Noah are both relatively cheap, we get pretty good bang for our buck.
We have to fill out a roster with price considerations. We aren't going to have it filled with fantastic college players 1-12.
Kentucky kids who probably aren't terribly expensive that have a chance to develop over the years might be free money.
You should share that advice with our freshmen considering their miserable shooting.
Every person on here knows how terrible Wheeler was.
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