If there is a fan of another team anywhere in the nation, not just the SEC, in the whole wide world of sports, that has Tenn. as their second favorite team, they are the equivalent of Big Foot, the Sasquatch of Sports fans.
This may be true, and its probably for the best moving forward. But am I the only one that has a problem with the fact that it’s Tennessee, one of the shadiest football programs in history, that will ultimately be the reason for the NCAA’s demise?
Looks like a federal judge just ruled against Tennessee and Virginia. They were seeking an injunction which would have stopped the NCAA from declaring Lamaleava ineligible. Could it be some judge somewhere has a tiny lick of common sense????? Noooo. Can’t be.
No brother, not what happened. At all.
Guess no one did have common sense. No judge wants to rule against NIL because it involves 90% minorities. Telling a voluntary organization they can’t make ANY rules about participation to me should be against our constitution. What about our college system rights. Oh yea…. No one burns down and loots entire citiesif they rule against a college.
Judges aren't going to rule against NIL because SCOTUS already ruled 9-0 against the NCAA, stating the NCAA cannot restrict payments to student-athletes because it violates the Sherman Anti-Trust Law. Justice Kavanaugh at that time basically dared the NCAA to try to bring such a case back to SCOTUS. This is why when the judge ruled against the TRO TN and VA were requesting, he said a TRO wasn't necessary because 1, the NCAA has not yet issued an NOA to UT, and 2, more importantly, he noted any athletes harmed by the NCAA can simply sue the NCAA. The NCAA would probably have been better suited for TN-VA to have gotten the TRO instead, because with this ruling the judge just told student-athletes they can sue the NCAA. He also stated, based on the prior SCOTUS ruling, that it is likely UT and VA will win this case in court. Charles Baker apparently though he could come in as the new head of the NCAA and try to put some teeth back in the NCAA and try to get schools retroactively, but the problem for him is he is on video this past November on Meet the Press stating that there are still no rules in place on NIL. There were some vague guidelines, but no rules.
Like the NCAA, you are archaic in your thinking. And for the record, I don't really like NIL, but this is the new world. SCOTUS basically said in its ruling against the NCAA that student-athletes are employees of their schools, and the old NCAA rules on amateurism no longer apply because student-athletes are no longer amateurs.
Programs like UK and Georgia took a wait and see approach in regards to the unsure nature surrounding NIL at the time. Despite hearing it from the fans and eventually, even their coaches. Where as, programs like UT saw this ambiguity as an opportunity. An opportunity and as cover for their actions. Which is proven to be true to their nature. UT has never missed an opportunity to better their situation, no matter the circumstances. Turning other teams in to the NCAA for cheating, while cheating themselves. Turning themselves in for cheating just to get out of paying an absorbent buy out. No. Their nature is clear. So miss me with the bullshit that some of us don’t get this due to some “archaic thinking”. Some fans of legitimate programs get it and they get it completely. Fans of shady ass programs like UT obviously don’t. And they never have.
Do 'I' personally think they should be free agents? No, I already said I don't care for NIL, and I don't like where it is taking CFB, but we are not going to be able to put the genie back in the bottle. I don't know if there is a future role for the NCAA in this new NIL world or not, but whatever governing body CFB ends up with there needs to be some actual rules in place, but those rules will not be able to violate current anti-trust laws, which is what the NCAA seems to think it can do.
UGA could afford a 'wait and see' approach. They have a roster of 4 and 5 stars.
Provide proof, or I call BS.
It's pretty obvious from your comments you have no original thoughts on this, but simply spout the same tired rhetoric.
I guess UK, and other programs like UK, could afford to wait, huh? I wonder why they did?
We, UK fans, need to let the UT shxt go and step up and support UK. We seem to worry or bitch about UT more than we support our program. Hopefully we will land a great OC and develop a football team that can kick UT's butt rather than our board having to kick their ass with words. I would like to never read another post about ugly orange except expressing how happy and proud we are to beat their ass on the field.
I don't really disagree with any of that. Unfortunately. CFB in particular became a huge business, and it was only a matter of time before college student-athletes noticed everyone but them were cashing in, especially, as you said, when their images were being used for other's profit. Or the fact that someone could get a student-athlete's signature and make money off it on Ebay, but the same student-athlete could not.
You tell me? I do remember this board railing at your AD for his slow movement on NIL.
So you are arguing that there actually were NIL rules in place so UT, and half the schools in CFB, were in violation? Pretty sure you are the one missing the point. but let me explain it to you; you can't violate rules that didn't exist.
Who testifies is irrelevant to who tattles. I don't remember anyone from the U. of Arkansas testifying either, but they also were implicated in turning in Bama over the Means recruitment.
TN was/is masters at the "don't look here, look there" tactic employed mainly by Phat. He cut the template for How To Cheat Without Getting Caught.You tell me? I do remember this board railing at your AD for his slow movement on NIL.
So you are arguing that there actually were NIL rules in place so UT, and half the schools in CFB, were in violation? Pretty sure you are the one missing the point. but let me explain it to you; you can't violate rules that didn't exist.
Who testifies is irrelevant to who tattles. I don't remember anyone from the U. of Arkansas testifying either, but they also were implicated in turning in Bama over the Means recruitment.
The SEC's investigation of those memos resulted in the allegations being declared an “unsubstantiated rumor,” which in turn meant that none of its member institutions were warned that violations, specifically by UA booster Logan Young, were occurring in the recruitment of Means.
“(Another) thing that was not told to (the press) is that the Albert Means violation was not reported by the University of Tennessee,” Wilson said, “but by the University of Arkansas. ...
“All of these facts totally refuted the UT conspiracy in the case.”
Ex-judge says 2002 Cottrell suit little more than a ‘hoax'
Retired Circuit Judge Steve Wilson said Monday that there was no conspiracy to bring down the University of Alabama football program, despite a 2002 lawsuit that alleged one.www.tuscaloosanews.com
I guess UT will have to try harder as they didn't even make the Top 10 list of violators.
1.Southern Methodist (SMU):Eight, all football.
2.Arizona State:Eight, mostly baseball.
4.Florida State: Seven academic scandals mostly involving all sports. Most publicized were football related.
5.Oklahoma:Seven, five were football related.
6-10:Memphis, Texas A&M, Minnesota, Wisconsin, and Wichita State also all had seven violations but none as big as the mentioned before.
3.Auburn:Seven, mixed bag of violations, biggest were football.
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You wear your hate for UT on your sleeve, so hard to take you seriously.
Same as I told Ms Chump; hard to take you seriously. Pruitt took the fall for UT's last big scandal, Fulmer got put out to pasture. Pruitt had no record of cheating at multiple schools, as dumb as he was about he any rational person would say he had never done before.
Am I supposed to care?
Pruitt had also never been a HC prior to UT. He wasn't the first new HC to fall victim to the SEC recruiting arms race, especially in the modern era of the SEC coaches where HCs rarely get a full 4 years to build a program up. And when a multimillion dollar salary is on the line, it can make people do stupid things.
What is this weird "2nd favorite team" thing? Is that suddenly a thing between UGA and UK fans? I grew up an Ole Miss fan because my dad played there under Coach Vaught. But my mother's side all went to UT and once I became a UT fan I came to despise Ole Miss. There's no room in my fandom for a 2nd team, other than the team playing Bama on any given Saturday.
Well, TN's going to teach the NCAA a lesson...Chumlee's joined Cheater's Anonymous now! That'll show'em. Must think they'll offer free buffet.
Like that baseball team from a couple years back? I know you lack intelligence, and maturity you show it everytime you post about me. But it does make me happy knowing how it eats at you when Chumlee has to call Kirby "Daddy".
It seems, every school wears their hate for Tenn on their sleeves. No one likes you guys.. No one... How do you think the NCAA came up with their latest accusations?. Reported by just one school?..lol Tenn is cheating on the recruiting trail.... everyone knows it and the kids talk. It's only rocket science to UT fans.... no one else.
By damn Grumpy, TN will show them a thing or two! They came out of their latest Cheater's Anonymous meeting and hired themselves a high priced attorney, a barrister whose previous claim to fame was representing such illustrious clients as Martha Stewart and Steve Bannon. 🤣 That'll show that mean old NCAA!
