UK a 6 seed in Palm's latest Bracketology

[TheBlueMist]

I know it's June and Cal may not be done with the roster, but at least it's a window into where Palm see's everything on paper currently. Kansas is the overall number 1 seed joining Duke, Purdue, and Michigan St. on the one-seed line. UK's seed matches what many of us said in a thread posted this week. Link below...

Bracketology 2024: Kansas is top seed ahead of No. 1s Duke, Purdue and Michigan State in preseason prediction​

 

[Jamal Mercer]

About right where I’d put us. 5 or 6

 

[Dead Cat Bounce]

Too low.

 

[gharding07]

psh..

 

[Wildcats1st]

Cal lands some marquee big who grad transfers in august and we end up a 2 seed. Our backcourt should be the best in the country if they can defend

 

[bucsrule8872]

Cal lands some marquee big who grad transfers in august and we end up a 2 seed. Our backcourt should be the best in the country if they can defend

Fingers crossed that Martin brings Dante with him.

He would be perfect at the 5 for us.

G Wagner
G Reeves
G Edwards
F Mitchell or Bradshaw
F Dante

That’s as good of a starting five as we could hope for.

 

[bbncal02]

Maybe a hair low....I'd say 3-5.

But it's freaking Jun.....ahem...now July.

Got a better chance of hitting the lottery.

 

[Ky-troutbum]

Where does he have us in 2025?
Oh man and what about 2026??

 

[billCgmx]

Palm is terrible but none of this really matters.

 

[seccats04]

I’m sorry but I just can’t take that guy seriously. Anybody who goes to the same barbershop as Lloyd Christmas can’t be taken seriously.

 

[UKrazycat2]

 

[HagginHall1999]

Who freaking knows...no one. This team could crash and burn or be freaking incredible. It is nearly impossible to predict when you are made up of mostly freshman with high talent.

If all of these guys get close to max potential they may be a 1 seed.

 

[UKWildcats1987]

This has to be the dumbest thing to do in June ever.

No one can in any way predict how good any teams will be by next March abd certainly not UK that has the most upside of any team in the country.

 

[dl51344]

All this is about now is a way of measuring how much respect others hold for the team.

 

[FinancialPlannerZac]

I’m sorry but I just can’t take that guy seriously. Anybody who goes to the same barbershop as Lloyd Christmas can’t be taken seriously.

This made me actually LOL! Haha!

 

[Dontworryboutit23]

Fingers crossed that Martin brings Dante with him.

He would be perfect at the 5 for us.

G Wagner
G Reeves
G Edwards
F Mitchell or Bradshaw
F Dante

That’s as good of a starting five as we could hope for.

There is to much smoke with Dante to where I think he might actually leave.

 

[track42]

There is to much smoke with Dante to where I think he might actually leave.

He would be perfect for what we need and would save Somto for next season.Hope it happens.

 

[Son_Of_Saul]

Cal lands some marquee big who grad transfers in august and we end up a 2 seed. Our backcourt should be the best in the country if they can defend

I wish Jesse Edwards would just leave that cesspool in Morgantown. We could match whatever he's getting from NIL. He's shore up pretty much all of our problems.

 

[docholiday51]

Fingers crossed that Martin brings Dante with him.

He would be perfect at the 5 for us.

G Wagner
G Reeves
G Edwards
F Mitchell or Bradshaw
F Dante

That’s as good of a starting five as we could hope for.

If that happens we will be very good. It seems we are always waiting for "what if" and we are waiting deep into the process this time around. We lucked out with the Huggins/WVa situation ,pretty sure that wasn't part of Cal's "plan"

Bradshaw was injured in the McDonalds game so his situation was a known issue for quite some time. Cal has been in scramble mode for all of the transfer portal season with 7 players on board for most of the time. We signed 2 guys that the majority of the board believe will get spot minutes at best. I believe Burks and Hart will play more than people expect, I think Thiero will play quite a bit as well.

 

[bucsrule8872]

There is to much smoke with Dante to where I think he might actually leave.

Adding him fixes a lot of issues.

He of course gives us more depth inside.

We don’t have wonder if Onyenso can handle major minutes at the 5.

He gives us a proven P5 level scorer at the 5. Dante averaged 13ppg at Oregon last season.

He’s insurance in case Bradshaw doesn’t come back 100% healthy or has to sit out.

We would have Mitchell at the 4 and Dante at the 5, with Thiero playing some as the backup 4 and Onyenso backing up the 5.

If Bradshaw is ready to go, he can split time with Mitchell and Dante inside and they could all get 25 or so minutes.

I really hope this happens.

At the very least, we need to add someone else capable of playing some at the 5. If Bradshaw can’t play or we have one significant injury to an inside player this season, we are hurting.

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[LineSkiCat14]

That just seems too low, when you have 2 elite recruits who could very well take the game over, like a Wall, Cousins or AD. And that's not including Dilly or Bradshaw. Chances are good that at least one of these guys is the real deal and their talent carries UK to wins more often than not

Not that it matters now. But I would never put the #1 incoming class, especially one as good as this one we have, outside of the top20. And that would go for Duke or anyone else. If I'm betting, I'm betting on that #1 class to wind up as a top15 or top10 team when it's all said and done.

On top of that, its not like in 2013 when we had the #1 class but almost nothing coming back. We have Reeves, Ugo and Thiero as promising g prospects, transfer Mitchell, and we might not be done.

I try and be pretty level headed.. but its hard for me to think this team isn't top10 on paper.

 

[Blueworld_3.0]

I would bet on Palm's prediction being closer to accurate than not. A lot of people are buying into this team, that will have a major reliance on untested freshmen, to do very well in a league of hungry, older, more experienced players.
And at the end of the day Calipari is still their coach. Never underestimate his ability to underperform.

 

[mebeblue2]

i would take that bet on being better then a 6 seed

with all the talent we have we will be seeded 1-3

 

[Dontworryboutit23]

Anywhere between 3-7 seed with this group would surprise me

 

[UKBB4Ever]

We will be a 1 seed.

 

[bucsrule8872]

That just seems too low, when you have 2 elite recruits who could very well take the game over, like a Wall, Cousins or AD. And that's not including Dilly or Bradshaw. Chances are good that at least one of these guys is the real deal and their talent carries UK to wins more often than not

Not that it matters now. But I would never put the #1 incoming class, especially one as good as this one we have, outside of the top20. And that would go for Duke or anyone else. If I'm betting, I'm betting on that #1 class to wind up as a top15 or top10 team when it's all said and done.

On top of that, its not like in 2013 when we had the #1 class but almost nothing coming back. We have Reeves, Ugo and Thiero as promising g prospects, transfer Mitchell, and we might not be done.

I try and be pretty level headed.. but its hard for me to think this team isn't top10 on paper.

2013 had Poythress back, who was a top 10 recruit the year before and underrated WCS back to go with five top 10 recruits and another top 20 player in a pretty strong class.

They were an 8 seed.

It’s just hard to tell how well they will do in the regular season. A game here or there where the ball bounces the wrong way and they end up a 6 seed or lower.

Get some lucky bounces and we are a 1-2 seed.

Sports are always unpredictable, which is one reason we love them. Teams go into their season every year looking like contenders and then falling apart or going in looking like trash and surprise everyone by making the tourney or playoffs or even winning it all. And college basketball is one of the most unpredictable sports out there.

This is why I am forever the optimist in the offseason. You just never know, so why not have positive thoughts?

 

[SparksCat]

The probabilities of one happening are far greater than the other

 

[docholiday51]

That just seems too low, when you have 2 elite recruits who could very well take the game over, like a Wall, Cousins or AD. And that's not including Dilly or Bradshaw. Chances are good that at least one of these guys is the real deal and their talent carries UK to wins more often than not

Not that it matters now. But I would never put the #1 incoming class, especially one as good as this one we have, outside of the top20. And that would go for Duke or anyone else. If I'm betting, I'm betting on that #1 class to wind up as a top15 or top10 team when it's all said and done.

On top of that, its not like in 2013 when we had the #1 class but almost nothing coming back. We have Reeves, Ugo and Thiero as promising g prospects, transfer Mitchell, and we might not be done.

I try and be pretty level headed.. but its hard for me to think this team isn't top10 on paper.

If we add 1 more big, Cyril reclass or the kid from Oregon. Mileage out of Bradshaw would be a big help too

Someone other than a frosh is going to have to come out of the woodwork and give us 12 or 13 ppg and 6 or 7 rpg (not necessarily the same person)

 

[caneintally]

If bradshaw plays which i think he will that is too low. More like a 2 . If not the 4-6 range is correct

 

[rick64]

 

[KyCPA]

That just seems too low, when you have 2 elite recruits who could very well take the game over, like a Wall, Cousins or AD. And that's not including Dilly or Bradshaw. Chances are good that at least one of these guys is the real deal and their talent carries UK to wins more often than not

Not that it matters now. But I would never put the #1 incoming class, especially one as good as this one we have, outside of the top20. And that would go for Duke or anyone else. If I'm betting, I'm betting on that #1 class to wind up as a top15 or top10 team when it's all said and done.

On top of that, its not like in 2013 when we had the #1 class but almost nothing coming back. We have Reeves, Ugo and Thiero as promising g prospects, transfer Mitchell, and we might not be done.

I try and be pretty level headed.. but its hard for me to think this team isn't top10 on paper.

According to everything I have read about this class NONE of these guys are on the level of Wall, Cousins, Davis.

 

[LineSkiCat14]

According to everything I have read about this class NONE of these guys are on the level of Wall, Cousins, Davis.

I think what's been said of this class is that its just overall not a great class.. but there's nothing to suggest that Wagner or Edwards can't have an impact like Wall or Fox or Cousins (Davis is a tough ask lol).

 

[Dead Cat Bounce]

Anything less than a three season is an underachievement with this roster. I said what I said

 

[Jmeeks54thebest]

I think what's been said of this class is that its just overall not a great class.. but there's nothing to suggest that Wagner or Edwards can't have an impact like Wall or Fox or Cousins (Davis is a tough ask lol).

When the class has been described as weak overall there’s a reason right there to suggest that Wagner or Edwards won’t have a Wall/Fox/Cousins impact. Can’t remember what was said about Fox’s class but Wall’s class was LOADED based on how good scouts thought the players were.

I mean Eric Bledsoe was in the low 20s on the sites I was checking back then and he’d probably be top 3 in this class if not number 1.

 

[LineSkiCat14]

When the class has been described as weak overall there’s a reason right there to suggest that Wagner or Edwards won’t have a Wall/Fox/Cousins impact. Can’t remember what was said about Fox’s class but Wall’s class was LOADED based on how good scouts thought the players were.

I mean Eric Bledsoe was in the low 20s on the sites I was checking back then and he’d probably be top 3 in this class if not number 1.

Was John Walls class loaded? It was Wall, Cousins, Bledsoe and.. Lance Stephensen as maybe the 4th best player. That class might have been great for UK, but it was nothing special overall. The rest of the top10 outside of our guys were all busts or simply nobodies. I also don't recall anyone thinking the 2009 class was THAT good, at the time.

Let's wait and see how this class turns out. But again, there's no reason to think our guys can't have an impact like a Fox or Wall, just because the rest of the class is "percieved" as a bit weaker. There's going to be a few guys who stand out.

 

[mebeblue2]

Was John Walls class loaded? It was Wall, Cousins, Bledsoe and.. Lance Stephensen as maybe the 4th best player. That class might have been great for UK, but it was nothing special overall. The rest of the top10 outside of our guys were all busts or simply nobodies. I also don't recall anyone thinking the 2009 class was THAT good, at the time.

Let's wait and see how this class turns out. But again, there's no reason to think our guys can't have an impact like a Fox or Wall, just because the rest of the class is "percieved" as a bit weaker. There's going to be a few guys who stand out.

agreed
a loaded class is like the class PPat was in

this years class is not a weak class like some want it to be (to fit their agenda)

 

[IUfanBorden]

I know it's June and Cal may not be done with the roster, but at least it's a window into where Palm see's everything on paper currently. Kansas is the overall number 1 seed joining Duke, Purdue, and Michigan St. on the one-seed line. UK's seed matches what many of us said in a thread posted this week. Link below...

Bracketology 2024: Kansas is top seed ahead of No. 1s Duke, Purdue and Michigan State in preseason prediction​

Unless Purdue gets better pieces to put around Edey, they'll flame. They plowed thorugh the first part of B10 scheduled, then got figured out, and well......

TBH, outside of Kansas, not sold entirely on either of the other 3.

 

[Tampa_cat54]

6 seed is entirely too low.

This team is WAY more talented and deeper than last year's team in my opinion.

The comparison to the 2014 team would be fair except that team's main issue IMO was scoring droughts- if James Young wasn't hitting, then Randle was our only scoring option (Poythress and WCS were not true scoring threats).

Our veterans this year (Reeves and Mitchell) are much more capable scorers, not even including Thiero and Ugo (who are more similar to Poythress and WCS).

Also, Dillingham/Wagner/Edwards/Bradshaw is a MUCH more capable offensive group than the Harrison twins, Young and Marcus Lee.

I think we'll see a season much more similar to 2017 than 2014. But who knows.

But I do know that a 6 seed is way too low at this point based on what's on paper.

 

[DCFseattle]

Who freaking knows...no one.

Wrong.

 

[Jmeeks54thebest]

Was John Walls class loaded? It was Wall, Cousins, Bledsoe and.. Lance Stephensen as maybe the 4th best player. That class might have been great for UK, but it was nothing special overall. The rest of the top10 outside of our guys were all busts or simply nobodies. I also don't recall anyone thinking the 2009 class was THAT good, at the time.

Let's wait and see how this class turns out. But again, there's no reason to think our guys can't have an impact like a Fox or Wall, just because the rest of the class is "percieved" as a bit weaker. There's going to be a few guys who stand out.

Don’t forget Kawahi Leonard in terms of the nba. I hope you’re right. But the scouts haven’t been saying “except for the top guys this class is weak.” It’s just been “this class is weak” or something similar. Again, I hope I’m the wrong one here and they’re all as good as advertised because if that happens it’s enough talent to get to a FF and beyond.

I just don’t see that happening. But I can’t reiterate this enough: I hope I’m the one who’s wrong.