2 or 3 is fine they are basically the same. Just no lower than 3. A 2 or 3 in Purdues bracket.might be nice
If dook gets a 2 there'll be some 7/10 seed make the sweet 16Don't mind if Duke gets a 2. They are about as fraudulent as it gets. Anyone would be lucky to see them.
Expected me to call you out for the clown that you are? Good job.The response that I was expecting.
Go work on your model. 😬
Expected me to call you out for the clown that you are? Good job.
The UNCW shouldn't be a huge deal as far as compared to Dook. I wouldn't call it a worse loss as ARK is #112, GA Tech #124 while UNCW is #118. So they have 2 to our 1 in the 100s and we have way more good wins. Their really in a 3 bid conference, I know UVA is in barely but all 9 of their losses were by double digits and to some bad teams. I mean they were blown out 9 times. How the hell can they be in?Lot of text, TLDR at the bottom.
Houston, Purdue, UConn all 1 seed locks no matter what
UNCheat, UT, Arizona all 2 seed locks and no lower, one of them is the 4th 1 seed, most likely UNCheat since they are the only decent team in a garbage league and should win their tournament. Arizona is in the same boat, but UNC has a better resume and ACC bias in their favor. If UT wins the SEC, they should get it.
UK, Creighton, Iowa St, Marquette, Duke, Illinois - six teams that will fill the last two #2 and all #3 barring an early conference loss.
Marquette and Creighton should play each other tomorrow night. They are 1-1 on the year. Creighton is 1-1 against UConn, Marquette is 0-2. Marquette has better OOC wins (Illinois & Kansas), Creighton only beat Alabama OOC. You have to think Friday's game is for a 2 seed, especially if the winner beats UConn Saturday
Now there's only one #2 seed left.
Iowa St wins the Big 12 and they get it. That conference is really good and they have the metrics to back them up. Getting to the finals means beating Baylor, so that may be all they need to lock up the last 2. They have 2 good wins, Houston and Kansas; and BYU is currently ranked. Strength of the Big 12 is propping them up big time.
If K State does us a solid and beats ISU today, a 2 seed is definitely in play.
Duke and Illinois have us in the metrics which is odd as both play in bad conferences and have one good win between them.
Duke has won 1 O-N-E ranked game all year (Baylor #14). How they are considered a top team is simply bias. They have bad losses to Arkansas and Georgia Tech, both played opening round games in their conference tournaments.
Illinois has not beat a ranked team N_O_N_E. This is not a top 8 resume what so ever. They also have bad losses to Maryland and Penn State (#12 and #11 in a bad 14 conference league)
Now to us. We are somehow below them both in metrics. Must be the weight of the Wilmington loss. We have wins against UNCheat and Tenn (both top 6 teams). We also have wins against Auburn (#12) and Bama (#19). We have far and away better wins, just 1 worse loss. We have 3 wins that are better than any win the both have.
I don't see how winning the SEC beating Bama or Florida and UT or Auburn doesn't vault us ahead of either of them. If they win their tournaments and don't play UNC or Purdue in the final their shouldn't be a contest.
TLDR:
- All #1 and two #2 seeds are locked.
- Creighton-Marquette winner on Friday gets the third #2
- If Iowa St wins the Big 12 or makes the final beating Baylor, they get the last #2
- UK, Duke, and Illinois are there if Iowa St stumbles. UK should be in the drivers seat due to better wins, but the Wilmingon loss hurts us in metrics.
- Iowa St, UK, Duke, Illinois - who ever wins their conference tournament in that order gets the last 2 seed
Of course this is just my two cents, gets you nothing. Had fun looking it all up last night though.
Sometimes a spade is a spade.Name calling begins when you have nothing of value to add. Have a nice day!
UNCW was at home making it a worse loss then losing at Arky and losing at Ga Tech individuallyThe UNCW shouldn't be a huge deal as far as compared to Dook. I wouldn't call it a worse loss as ARK is #112, GA Tech #124 while UNCW is #118. So they have 2 to our 1 in the 100s and we have way more good wins. Their really in a 3 bid conference, I know UVA is in barely but all 9 of their losses were by double digits and to some bad teams. I mean they were blown out 9 times. How the hell can they be in?
For sure could be a 4 maybe even a 5If we lose our first game we could be a 4. No way we get to 2.
For sure could be a 4 maybe even a 5
A few years back, they removed the "Last 10 games" criteria.There's also something to be said for "eye test" and getting hot at the end of the season. Having 4 wins running into the SEC tourney means that an SECT win has us on a 7 game winning streak with likely good wins against Q1 teams. That sounds good to a committee.
Bracket Matrix lags a fair bit. Some of the guys are way more active than others. And the less active ones tend to pull a team like us--with a late season surge--down the board.Yeah I don't know where this..."were a 3 seed no matter what" stuff is coming from. Matt Jones I guess. Bracket matrix barely has us hanging on to the final 3 seed, plenty of brackets still have us at a 4 and a tiny bit at a 5. Our NET hangs anywhere from 18-20. Need to least beat Ole Miss/TAMU to hold the 3.
Bracket Matrix lags a fair bit. Some of the guys are way more active than others. And the less active ones tend to pull a team like us--with a late season surge--down the board.
I've engaged with a couple of the active ones on Twitter. The vibe seems to be that a 3 is the ceiling. If we win tomorrow night, we probably lock in a 3 seed.
I don't think a 5 is on the table. Lose tomorrow night, and we're still a very solid 4 at worst.
I don't think a 5 is possible either. But I don't think 3 is locked either like a lot of people seem too.
AgreedI've said if we win tomorrow we are a 3. Just my random opinion. If we lose we will be a 4.
But, Cow and his precious win total as his supporters would say.A few years back, they removed the "Last 10 games" criteria.
I think we're one of the 4 best teams. I just think our early season resume is gonna hold us down.
For all the "UNC-W will cost us a seed line" talk, I don't think that loss killed us. We just played too many cupcakes.
I don't get the "I hate Cal supporters" thing right now.But, Cow and his precious win total as his supporters would say.
Good luck with thatWin 2 games in SECT were a 2 seed
I get that, but it's still a worse net ranking team with a losing record.UNCW was at home making it a worse loss then losing at Arky and losing at Ga Tech individually
The AP poll means absolutely nothing when it comes to seeding.We are ranked number 9 in th AP. Theoretically 5-8 ranked teams should be 2 seeds. We only have one spot to move up. You can say that’s not how it works with all the other factors, but theoretically if they’re ranking teams correctly it would be.
I expected that response but I’ve been watching basketball a long time and the top 4 ranked teams are almost always 1 seeds, the 2 seeds are usually between 5-10 ranked teams in APThe AP poll means absolutely nothing when it comes to seeding.
iirc wasn't it in 2000 that top seed Cincy seed was lowered because of Kenyon Martins injury? That of course was eons ago with different committeeGood point.
Well yeah usually the best teams are top 5 in the AP poll.I expected that response but I’ve been watching basketball a long time and the top 4 ranked teams are almost always 1 seeds, the 2 seeds are usually between 5-10 ranked teams in AP
Both Iowa St and Baylor have more quad 1 AND quad 2 wins than we do and 0 bad losses. You should do a little more research my man lol.On a happy note: If we win tomorrow night, we should jump the loser of Iowa State/Baylor.
I Think we go to bed tomorrow night as the top 3 seed. Which very likely gets us to the Midwest with Purdue +/- Marquette.
They won't be.If we are a 3 I hope Duke is 2 in our region
Agree with this. I don't think we can work our way up to a #2 (I hope I'm wrong). The committee can use the UNCW loss to keep us down a notch. They have to have something to justify their seeding and that's an easy one to quote.I've said if we win tomorrow we are a 3. Just my random opinion. If we lose we will be a 4.