There are a lot of pissed off Oligarchs missing their yachts and mansions overseas. Nobody said anything about surrendering to the United States.
The Ukraine war. (Yes, we'll mind our manners)
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I know you didn’t say that, because you guys lack the ability to think a few steps forward.
How do you suppose the oligarchs are actually going to get their assets that are actually frozen or impounded back?
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Note that this was BEFORE Ukraine recaptured the entirety of Kharkiv oblasts and recaptured Kherson. Almost as if Milley didn’t know what he was talking about.
Milley blows with the wind. He’s back on the Ukraine victory train now.
Nah, I'm good. But it's both entertaining and sad AF to see how many of you suck the balls of Ukraine and fall for this scam and push for war and adopt the U.S. media narrative.I used this elsewhere recently but seems appropriate here now too.
And it’s entertaining and sad AF to see how many of you suck Putin’s balls and fall for his propaganda and push for appeasement and adopt the alt-right’s sick narrative.
Your original post was better before you edited it. You were pissed off at everyone at the time, not just one side. That's the version I responded too.
Escalation beyond usual area of operations. Sow some fear.
www.yahoo.com
Drones fly deep inside Russia; Putin orders border tightened
Drones that the Kremlin said were launched by Ukraine flew deep inside Russian territory, including one that got within 100 kilometers (60 miles) of Moscow, signaling breaches in Russian defenses as President Vladimir Putin ordered stepped-up protection at the border. Ukrainian officials did...
For you peaceniks lets say Z accepts peace terms from Russia, allows Russia to keep Donbas and Crimea and then Russia disengages. What do you think the long term outcome will be?
These are home grown Ukrainian drones that are virtual clones of the Iranian drones Putin is using. The Ukes reversed-engineered them and now are throwing them back at Putin. No “hands off Russian targets” apply with this weapon. Yes, it’s time that the war is taken across the border into Russia.Escalation beyond usual area of operations. Sow some fear.
Drones fly deep inside Russia; Putin orders border tightened
Drones that the Kremlin said were launched by Ukraine flew deep inside Russian territory, including one that got within 100 kilometers (60 miles) of Moscow, signaling breaches in Russian defenses as President Vladimir Putin ordered stepped-up protection at the border. Ukrainian officials did...
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Ukraine and other non-NATO states arm themselves quickly and become more dangerous targets for Russia. The US focuses on the real enemy, the CCP. Hopefully, we get an American administration skilled in diplomacy that can work with whoever replaces Putin to relieve tensions between Ukraine and Russia.
LOL, you live in an alternate universe. How is Ukraine going to arm itself and how would that stop Russia? Non-nato states couldn't arm themselves to a point to protect against an emboldened Russia. This is exactly what you can't seem to understand.
Convince a bunch of oligarchs, many who’ve been aligned with Putin, that they just need to kill the current leader of the country and install a U.S. puppet they can all agree on in his place, then they can have their extra yachts back so long as they aren’t murdered by Putin loyalists or dead in a nuclear explosion Putin sets off rather than being assassinated. That’s the plan?
I said nothing about a puppet, I said moderate. Hey, they can continue to live under sanctions for what I care.
Try not to forget that Russia operates much like an huge mafia family. The boss is always in the crosshairs.
You think the US would go through the trouble of bribing oligarchs to murder a world leader, and would have them install someone who wasn’t a puppet?
Shit, they’d probably have them install Zelensky after the training he’s gotten as a WEF puppet since the US overthrew the Ukrainian government in 2014.
We know we can't control a "puppet" in Russia. Just find a moderate or maybe just someone who isn't a homicidal lunatic. We didn't overthrow the government in 2014, that's another of you peoples conspiracy theories.
Oh, they’re fun to poke at. Like watching a fire ant hill when you poke it with a stick.
Doesn’t have to be a puppet, just a moderate non-aggressive leader (if there is such a thing over there) that doesn’t want to reinstitute the Soviet Union. You act like Putin is untouchable and no one in the upper echelons of the Russian gov’t/FSB, doesn’t have to be an oligarch, will challenge his hold on power when the Ukraine war continues to blow up in his face and their economy further deteriorates. You’re convinced of that.
There is a very simple peace proposal that has been available the entire time: Russia leaves Ukraine. And just like that, there will be peace. Maybe not for Putin personally, but golly, that'd be a shame.
Speaking of which, the above belief by the appeaseniks represents yet another of their core complaints they've gotten completely wrong: the idea that the West fomented a coup in Ukraine back in 2014.
A deep dive into the full transcript of the Victoria Nuland call they often claim confirms this coup reveals that the exact opposite is true. Nuland did not “choose” Ukraine’s leader or otherwise orchestrate a coup during the Euromaidan.
She was floating candidates for PM, not President, and only because Yanukovych *asked* the West to help mediate a deal with the opposition. Nuland and Geoffery Pyatt are discussing who should become PM alongside President Yanukovych, NOT who should replace him as president. With the President retaining the greater power of the two positions.
Therefore, per the transcript itself (the full transcript is available online through various sources), a Nuland led plot obviously did *NOT* exist. When Pyatt suggests outreach to Yanukovych, does Nuland reply “No, actually, Yanukovych must be replaced?” No, she agrees and says “yeah, let’s bring Biden in on that.”
Nor was Nuland trying to force this arrangement on an unwilling Ukraine. It was Yanukovych himself who, on Jan. 25th, 2014, originally put forth the idea. That’s the proposal Nuland and Pyatt are discussing.
Furthermore, in a three-hour meeting with his opponents, Yanukovych offered the deputy prime minister’s job to Vitaly Klitschko, the head of the UDAR party. Klitschko announced afterward to the crowd in Maidan that there was no deal. The two sides need to keep talking. Yanukovych’s stated willingness to amend the laws passed in mid-January 2014 restricting the freedom of speech and assembly wasn’t sufficient according to Klitschko, and he called for their full repeal instead.
(full disclosure: I cannot claim the above analysis as my own, but it is correct)
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Can we send them Bribeden, Harris, Pelosi, Schumer, AOC, the rest of the Squad & every other dumbocrat in the country? Can't say what it would be like in Russia, but it would be a hell of a lot better here.
It's on the Black Sea. So a Seals-like operation isn't out of the question.
I'm sure everyone has seen the zelensky footage of him prancing around in the music video in his cute leather outfit, so I must ask....
Shouldn't we, instead of sending him 100+ BILLION dollars, actually be looking into where he gets his clothes and luggage?
Like perhaps the airport?
Shouldn't we, instead of sending him 100+ BILLION dollars, actually be looking into where he gets his clothes and luggage?
Like perhaps the airport?
Facts, facts, facts, why you've bought into some narrative from somebody the appeaseniks dont' like. Shame on yoiu.
Load on Drumpf, Marjorie Taylor Green, Josh Jawley, Ron Johnson, Matt Gaetz and every other Reputincan in the country and you’ve got a deal.
They use money to buy advanced weapons, thus being able to kill more Russians.
I suspect non-NATO states can arm themselves pretty well. Ukraine could probably afford more weapons if, you know, they weren’t so unbelievably corrupt.
Your entire premise hinges on the expectation that we are Ukraine’s protector. We’ve made that clear since day one that we are not and that Europe should be footing the bill for this.
And Putin could have walked all over Ukraine if he and the Oligarchs hadn’t bled their military dry, speaking of unbelievable corruption.
Gaetz thought that the English version of the Global Times wasn’t a source of Chinese propaganda.
Yes, a tweet where someone uses OWNED in all caps is definitely a good argument.
Did they also 'CLAP BACK'?
Jameslie, no wonder Gassy mocked you mercilessly.
Aren't you like in your 60's or something? You.post like a 12 year old. Literally. Like a child.
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