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The Ukraine war. (Yes, we'll mind our manners)

Where the hell are you getting this? Jesus Christ. You think Russia (a country of 150 million people) is going to take on all of Europe and the US, Canada and Australia????? Is that what you are saying is the most likely scenario?


Putin is banking on Trump winning re-election so he can take on a weak EU.








They don’t show this on Fox News. So I see why you might’ve missed it.
 
I think it's funny you don't understand the difference between Russia and Soviet. I almost want to ask you what the difference is....
lol, the guy has an anti-soviet sig. But isn’t against the US stopping another soviet-style land grab.
 
We aren’t depleting stock we need LMAOO. We are sending them old shit that was already sat up to be mothballed. We’ve sent them reserve artillery shells. But none from our wartime stockpile. What source are you getting this from? Fox news?
That's why we sent them cluster munitions.... its because we had plenty of other to send but decided to send shells that most of the world has labeled as "bad".... We took stores of arty shells from Israel to give to Ukraine.... how is that looking now? LOL We took arty shells out of South Korea too.... I hope that doesn't come back to bite us.
 
I don’t know? A big part of the reason they can’t is because the US dragged its feet on giving them F-16s. They have no air power. So it’s resorted to being WW1 with drones.
Just imagine if Europe had been funding their NATO obligations like Trump said... Maybe Germany would have had more than 30 tanks to send to Ukraine and we wouldn't be waiting 2 years to get f16's to Ukraine.... It's almost like Trump was 100% on this issue.
 
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That's why we sent them cluster munitions.... its because we had plenty of other to send but decided to send shells that most of the world has labeled as "bad".... We took stores of arty shells from Israel to give to Ukraine.... how is that looking now? LOL We took arty shells out of South Korea too.... I hope that doesn't come back to bite us.
We sent cluster bombs because they’re effective in trench warfare. And the US never signed the pact to not use cluster bombs. Nor did russia. South Korea is one of the few counties with enough shells to spare. They’ve been stockpiling artillery shells since the 60s. And yeah dude. Looks like those shells we took from israel is really hurting them in gaza….


God, you’re so bad at this.
 
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Just imagine if Europe had been funding their NATO obligations like Trump said... Maybe Germany would have had more than 30 tanks to send to Ukraine and we wouldn't be waiting 2 years to get f16's to Ukraine.... It's almost like Trump was 100% on this issue.
He was right on that department. lol, not sure why you think i’m a democrat (well, I do). But whatever man. Europe is now picking up the slack for us though. Namely germany and the U.K.
 
Sounds like Germany, France, and Britain have a lot of work to get ready for. Perhaps their money would be better suited for weapons than for welfare for Muslims and Africans.
The UK just had a doc leak that said they planned on drafting men 20 to 60 yo due so many citizens being unable to perform in a military setting. LOL, Who wants to bet the muslims they have been bringing in don't get drafted but some dudes that look like Roger Waters get drafted like gang gang... LOL
 
The UK just had a doc leak that said they planned on drafting men 20 to 60 yo due so many citizens being unable to perform in a military setting. LOL, Who wants to bet the muslims they have been bringing in don't get drafted but some dudes that look like Roger Waters get drafted like gang gang... LOL
What doc leak?
 
We sent cluster bombs because they’re effective in trench warfare. And the US never signed the pact to not use cluster bombs. Nor did russia. South Korea is one of the few counties with enough shells to spare. They’ve been stockpiling artillery shells since the 60s. And yeah dude. Looks like those shells we took from israel is really hurting them in gaza….


God, you’re so bad at this.
LOL. We didn't sign that treaty but the reason we sent them cluster munitions was because they were burning through shells faster than NATO could supply them. We had Vietnam era shells that were kind of "maybe illegal" but we needed a few months to start supplying them what they needed.
 
LOL. We didn't sign that treaty but the reason we sent them cluster munitions was because they were burning through shells faster than NATO could supply them. We had Vietnam era shells that were kind of "maybe illegal" but we needed a few months to start supplying them what they needed.
Ok, so what do you want us to do? We aren’t giving them our wartime stock.
 
He was right on that department. lol, not sure why you think i’m a democrat (well, I do). But whatever man. Europe is now picking up the slack for us though. Namely germany and the U.K.
Where did I say you were a democrat? Jesus Christ you guys read so much into every argument. Germany is crumbling as an economy. Britains army could fit in Wimbley Stadium. You need to read up on stuff. Socialist governments tend to spend tons of money on BS and don't have money for stuff a country actually needs.

In 2018 a German general warned that they only had 18 main battle tanks that were ready for war. He also warned that they only had 2 weeks of ammo if they had to go to war...But you believe some BS if you want to... It's not like we have to deal with reality.
 
Where did I say you were a democrat? Jesus Christ you guys read so much into every argument. Germany is crumbling as an economy. Britains army could fit in Wimbley Stadium. You need to read up on stuff. Socialist governments tend to spend tons of money on BS and don't have money for stuff a country actually needs.

In 2018 a German general warned that they only had 18 main battle tanks that were ready for war. He also warned that they only had 2 weeks of ammo if they had to go to war...But you believe some BS if you want to... It's not like we have to deal with reality.
Yeah. I know the EUs military is shot. Because they’ve gotten fat and happy and let daddy america protect them. lol calling european governments socialist.




“hey, why not put some of that money going to Ukraine. Into america”?

“So, like helping homeless people and food stamps”?

“NO THATS SOCIALST THESE MILLENNIALS NEEDS TO PULL THEMSELVES UO BY THEIR BOOT STRAPS’’
 
Ok, so what do you want us to do? We aren’t giving them our wartime stock.
So you admit we can't keep producing shells at the pace the shooting them? ..... Because that has been the problem. Ukraine is shooting 1000 to 3000 shells per day and Russia was shooting 5000 to 10000 shells per day. Obviously you don't understand the difference there but I"d bet if you were in a trench in Ukraine that you'd think that sucks.
 
So you admit we can't keep producing shells at the pace the shooting them? ..... Because that has been the problem. Ukraine is shooting 1000 to 3000 shells per day and Russia was shooting 5000 to 10000 shells per day. Obviously you don't understand the difference there but I"d bet if you were in a trench in Ukraine that you'd think that sucks.
lol, that’s been known. But they’re still getting shells. We are ramping up production in the US.
 
Yeah. I know the EUs military is shot. Because they’ve gotten fat and happy and let daddy america protect them. lol calling european governments socialist.




“hey, why not put some of that money going to Ukraine. Into america”?

“So, like helping homeless people and food stamps”?

“NO THATS SOCIALST THESE MILLENNIALS NEEDS TO PULL THEMSELVES UO BY THEIR BOOT STRAPS’’
IE... "I agree you are right but I'm going to disagree because Russia bad"....
 
IE... "I agree you are right but I'm going to disagree because Russia bad"....
What? I agreed with your point that the EU has gotten lazy on military funding. Fox News got you wound up. That’s what happens when russia owns members of the GOP, runs twitter and facebook psyops , uses Carlson as a mouthpiece. You start believing the BS.
 
lol, that’s been known. But they’re still getting shells. We are ramping up production in the US.
I wonder if you'd have this same careless take if you were the asshole sitting in a trench begging for arty support and being denied????

I'm going to go out on a great big "ol limb and say that you'd want your support....
 
I wonder if you'd have this same careless take if you were the asshole sitting in a trench begging for arty support and being denied????

I'm going to go out on a great big "ol limb and say that you'd want your support....
Yeah, and you’re actively against sending those poor bastards more help. Because “libs on tik tok” said “HUNTER BIDENS LAPTOP CONTAINED LEAKED INFORMATION THAT UKRAINE IS SELLING ALL THEIR EQUIPMENT TO MARTIANS. TOP DOJ REPORTS”.
 
What? I agreed with your point that the EU has gotten lazy on military funding. Fox News got you wound up. That’s what happens when russia owns members of the GOP, runs twitter and facebook psyops , uses Carlson as a mouthpiece. You start believing the BS.
I don't watch Fox. If you believe the rest of that then we just need a national divorce. You're worse than qanon BS. You really think that me... (sitting here in KY) not wanting to fight Russia (who hasn't killed a single American) makes me a traitor while we have Chinese pouring over our border... muslims pouring over our border.... nobody has said anything about Russia sending citizens across our border.... I just look at this as a risk assessment. It seems to me you are prioritizing the 10th most deadly risk while ignoring the other 9.... and you want me to pay for the 10th one to the point of wrecking our entire economy..
 
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Yeah, and you’re actively against sending those poor bastards more help. Because “libs on tik tok” said “HUNTER BIDENS LAPTOP CONTAINED LEAKED INFORMATION THAT UKRAINE IS SELLING ALL THEIR EQUIPMENT TO MARTIANS. TOP DOJ REPORTS”.
Jesus Christ... I don't watch that shit. I'm telling you we aren't able to fund them like they need yet assholes like you want them to just "keep on fighting" until we can spin up production. You realize (or you probably don't) that Ukraine has lost an entire generation of men.... The avg age of Ukr soldier is 43. They have built a new cemetery that will hold 1.5 million bodies.... DUDE!!!

It's like the BS with f16s.... You guys have been talking about it for a year and they've got 2.... People are dying because they think they are getting 50 f16's. They aren't. If this wasn 't on the internet and you had to look these dudes in the face I'd bet you'd have a different opinion.
 
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I don't watch Fox. If you believe the rest of that then we just need a national divorce. You're worse than qanon BS. You really think that me... (sitting here in KY) not wanting to fight Russia (who hasn't killed a single American) makes me a traitor while we have Chinese pouring over our border... muslims pouring over our border.... nobody has said anything about Russia sending citizens across our border.... I just look at this as a risk assessment. It seems to me you are prioritizing the 10th most deadly risk while ignoring the other 9.... and you want me to pay for the 10th one to the point of wrecking our entire economy..
What’s wrong with chinese and muslims? Yikes man. Russia runs pysops on this country, owns members of our political parties, has threatened the US on state run TV with nukes. Is aligned with Iran and China. Who openly do the same thing russia does. With china sending spy balloons and facilitating the fentanyl trade in mexico. I guess in your mind, it’s ok for the US to let a democratic nation falter. And have support weaken for the US. And embolden china to move on Taiwan. Which BTW, Russia invaded shortly after Biden ran out of Afghanistan.
 
Jesus Christ... I don't watch that shit. I'm telling you we aren't able to fund them like they need yet assholes like you want them to just "keep on fighting" until we can spin up production. You realize (or you probably don't) that Ukraine has lost an entire generation of men.... The avg age of Ukr soldier is 43. They have built a new cemetery that will hold 1.5 million bodies.... DUDE!!!

It's like the BS with f16s.... You guys have been talking about it for a year and they've got 2.... People are dying because they think they are getting 50 f16's. They aren't. If this wasn 't on the internet and you had to look these dudes in the face I'd bet you'd have a different opinion.
lol how many aid packages have been blocked by a certain subset of the republicans? Each time they get delayed. Ukraine pays that time in blood.
 
Yeah, and you’re actively against sending those poor bastards more help. Because “libs on tik tok” said “HUNTER BIDENS LAPTOP CONTAINED LEAKED INFORMATION THAT UKRAINE IS SELLING ALL THEIR EQUIPMENT TO MARTIANS. TOP DOJ REPORTS”.
Hunter was getting money from Burisma. Joe got Ukr over $1billion in aid that got deposited in Privat Banc. That money got stolen. We could have put that money in a trusted European bank but good ol Joe agreed to use Igor Kolomoisky's bank.... and he stole every single dollar.

But hey... You keep pretending we are crazy, and you are the sane person and I'll bet that $1 billion turns back up.... That's how that works.
 
What’s wrong with chinese and muslims? Yikes man. Russia runs pysops on this country, owns members of our political parties, has threatened the US on state run TV with nukes. Is aligned with Iran and China. Who openly do the same thing russia does. With china sending spy balloons and facilitating the fentanyl trade in mexico. I guess in your mind, it’s ok for the US to let a democratic nation falter. And have support weaken for the US. And embolden china to move on Taiwan. Which BTW, Russia invaded shortly after Biden ran out of Afghanistan.
Oh no. You're right. The US needs to get as many muslim and Chinese illegal immigrants as possible. I'm obviously a racist traitor for thinking people should come into our country legally. I'm starting to figure out how this works.... If I just ignore every bit of common sense I grew up with and just watched cnn... I'd get it.

Do you really not understand how much money China and ME countries are giving to our country? Do you really think Russia gives as much as say.... the UAE?

Russia has threatened nukes in retaliation.... You are too GD'd stupid to realize a warning from a threat. For instance... If a guy tells you that he will punch you if you grab his wifes ass... Do you look as that as a threat that lets you shoot him dead in the street?
 
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Oh no. You're right. The US needs to get as many muslim and Chinese illegal immigrants as possible. I'm obviously a racist traitor for thinking people should come into our country legally. I'm starting to figure out how this works.... If I just ignore every bit of common sense I grew up with and just watched cnn... I'd get it.

Do you really not understand how much money China and ME countries are giving to our country? Do you really think Russia gives as much as say.... the UAE?

Russia has threatened nukes in retaliation.... You are too GD'd stupid to realize a warning from a threat. For instance... If a guy tells you that he will punch you if you grab his wifes ass... Do you look as that as a threat that lets you shoot him dead in the street?
Accusing me of being a democrat. That’s another tally mark. I’ll have you schizo rambling about Hillary Clinton in 20 minutes.


Hahah retaliation? For what? Giving ukraine aid? How retarded are you?


You realize russia has written essays on how much they despite western liberalism right? And how they wish they could nuke it all off the face of the earth. Another well educated political thread poster.
 
lol how many aid packages have been blocked by a certain subset of the republicans? Each time they get delayed. Ukraine pays that time in blood.
OK bro. But if this expands you realize millions are going to die right? Let than sink in. Your internet brovado is cool and all but at some point Russia is going to fear for it's own security to the point that they feel like it's their only choice... And I can almost bet you'll say some BS like... "they won't do that, they know we'd nuke their whole country".... In which case you are litter ali arguing that we are the only people on the Earth that are crazy enough to nuke someone for military reasons....

I hate that your vote counts as much as mine. Jesus.
 
Accusing me of being a democrat. That’s another tally mark. I’ll have you schizo rambling about Hillary Clinton in 20 minutes.


Hahah retaliation? For what? Giving ukraine aid? How retarded are you?
You can't read.... Where did I say you were a democrat? GD. You just read stuff to fit your narrative.
 
OK bro. But if this expands you realize millions are going to die right? Let than sink in. Your internet brovado is cool and all but at some point Russia is going to fear for it's own security to the point that they feel like it's their only choice... And I can almost bet you'll say some BS like... "they won't do that, they know we'd nuke their whole country".... In which case you are litter ali arguing that we are the only people on the Earth that are crazy enough to nuke someone for military reasons....

I hate that your vote counts as much as mine. Jesus.
Again, guy is talking about if the war expands, people will die. But is actively against funding ukraine so that doesn’t happen. Mental circus act.
 
Senator Mitt Romney, one of the most outspoken opponents of the so-called "MAGA" wing of the Republican that is most loyal to former President Donald Trump, said that "if your position is being cheered by Vladimir Putin, it’s time to reconsider your position
 
I don't watch Fox. If you believe the rest of that then we just need a national divorce. You're worse than qanon BS. You really think that me... (sitting here in KY) not wanting to fight Russia (who hasn't killed a single American) makes me a traitor while we have Chinese pouring over our border... muslims pouring over our border.... nobody has said anything about Russia sending citizens across our border.... I just look at this as a risk assessment. It seems to me you are prioritizing the 10th most deadly risk while ignoring the other 9.... and you want me to pay for the 10th one to the point of wrecking our entire economy..
You know that the democrats proposed a border bill. That was so good the republicans didn’t even expect it. And they denied it right? You know why? They’re waiting for Trump to get elected. So they can pass it and give Trump credit. Lets not act like Ukraine funding is preventing the border being secure.
 
Senator Mitt Romney, one of the most outspoken opponents of the so-called "MAGA" wing of the Republican that is most loyal to former President Donald Trump, said that "if your position is being cheered by Vladimir Putin, it’s time to reconsider your position
Putin drinks water. You know who else drank water? Hitler.
 
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You know that the democrats proposed a border bill. That was so good the republicans didn’t even expect it. And they denied it right? You know why? They’re waiting for Trump to get elected. So they can pass it and give Trump credit.
Again... Good argument if you watch headlines and didn't actually read the bill. That bill allowed 5000 ILLEGAL immigrants per day as a matter of law. It made sure that if a dude like Trump came in and wanted to stop illegal crossings cold that he would face months and months of lawsuits. That bill also gave more money to Israel and Ukraine than it did to our own border.

America first versus globalist. Look, globalist love low info dudes lie you. They feed you crap and you turn on your own country for ..... "your own country"... LOL.

If an illegal was raping an American girl and a Russian was killing a Ukrainian, you'd 100% want to save the Ukrainian. That is what you see as being a patriot. I think you are bat chit crazy.
 
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Again... Good argument if you watch headlines and didn't actually read the bill. That bill allowed 5000 ILLEGAL immigrants per day as a matter of law. It made sure that if a dude like Trump came in and wanted to stop illegal crossings cold that he would face months and months of lawsuits. That bill also gave more money to Israel and Ukraine than it did to our own border.

America first versus globalist. Look, globalist love low info dudes lie you. They feed you crap and you turn on your own country for ..... "your own country"... LOL.

If an illegal was raping an American girl and a Russian was killing a Ukrainian, you'd 100% want to save the Ukrainian. That is what you see as being a patriot. I think you are bat chit crazy.
Automatically assuming illegals are rapist and criminals. Yikes again.

But Trump said….
 
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