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The Ukraine war. (Yes, we'll mind our manners)

Are you rejecting that some people make war a hobby? Is that your dispute?


You say ignorant and ill-informed. Do you anticipate other governments financially supporting Ukraine indefinitely? Because I do not. And, if that support wanes, do you believe Ukraine will be able to continue to keep Russia at bay? If so, we disagree.
Again, can you to elaborate who these people are? Examples please.

Maybe I misunderstood when you said “intervention”, presumed you meant troops. Regarding financial, I do believe certain European countries will keep supporting them long-term.
 
Again, can you to elaborate who these people are? Examples please.
Again, are you rejecting that such people exist? If not, what is your issue?

Maybe I misunderstood when you said “intervention”, presumed you meant troops. Regarding financial, I do believe certain European countries will keep supporting them long-term.
I did mean troops. I don’t think Ukraine can win a conventional war against Russia without other countries intervening. I have seen nothing thus far to dissuade that conclusion.
 
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Again, are you rejecting that such people exist? If not, what is your issue?
Still waiting for an answer on examples - not holding my breath. No, I’ve never met anyone or heard anyone on tv that says “war is my hobby” or that it’s fun. But apparently they are all over the place.

Now war for financial gain, different story.
 
Yellen falls into the Top 3 Dumbasses award in this administration. Jack, start a debt thread and I’ll be happy to chime in. I share your concerns.
When you spend more than you take in, every government action is a debt thread. It’s got to stop somewhere.

If somehow government spending was cut by many billions, we had a balanced budget, and we were actually paying down the principal, even slightly, I’d be far more inclined to support Ukraine spending. It’s just not happening.
 
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Still waiting for an answer on examples - not holding my breath.
Yeah, that is a good idea. I made a comment and you got hyper defensive about it.

No, I’ve never met anyone or heard anyone on tv that says “war is my hobby” or that it’s fun. But apparently they are all over the place.

Now war for financial gain, different story.
Well, good on you for not knowing the guys who cannot wait to talk about the Art of War and who geek over all the names of different armaments and like to correct others and who talk about specific battles as if they were there. Glad you don’t know any of those dudes. Your life is better.

Someone here is thinking the Art of War is not the right book and is wanting to tell me what other books are better sources.
 
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When you spend more than you take in, every government action is a debt thread. It’s got to stop somewhere.

If somehow government spending was cut by many billions, we had a balanced budget, and we were actually paying down the principal, even slightly, I’d be far more inclined to support Ukraine spending. It’s just not happening.
Jack, I’m sure you know even if we told Ukraine to F off and stopped aid, it would not make one iota of difference (in terms of our balance sheet and percentage of GDP) in terms of substantively paying down our debt. Also, donating decades-old equipment to another country is cheaper than demiling it here. Not rocket science.

In order to reduce the debt, entitlements, shutting the border, and the welfare state have to be on the table. Otherwise, one is not really serious about paying it down. The Simpson-Bowles commission had some interesting ideas but the thieves in Washington shot down their recommendations.
 
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When you spend more than you take in, every government action is a debt thread. It’s got to stop somewhere.

If somehow government spending was cut by many billions, we had a balanced budget, and we were actually paying down the principal, even slightly, I’d be far more inclined to support Ukraine spending. It’s just not happening.
That's a fair position. I dont know what to do about our debt at this point. With all the whores in our government things aren't likely to change.
 
A huge issue with Ukraine is grain exports. Wouldn't it be fun for everyone for Russia to control the combined exports of Ukraine plus their own. Ah, what am I saying. They'd never hold the world hostage over food. I'm not in a hurry to allow them access to Ukraines titanium either. Then they have incredible natural gas reserves.

Ukraine is important on its own and even more important to keep away from Russia.


@WayneDougan what on earth are you laughing at? Please enlighten us with another of your inane takes on the Ukraine war.
 
Again, are you rejecting that such people exist? If not, what is your issue?


I did mean troops. I don’t think Ukraine can win a conventional war against Russia without other countries intervening. I have seen nothing thus far to dissuade that conclusion.
I think he's rejecting the point of your statement. Why not name some of these war hobbyists? Are they on this forum? Is their existence important here at all?
 
I think he's rejecting the point of your statement. Why not name some of these war hobbyists? Are they on this forum? Is their existence important here at all?
😂 - me laughing at the defensiveness of some of the posters on this site.

You know the saying. Throw a stone into a pack of dogs and the one that yelps is the one you hit.

🤦‍♂️
 
😂 - me laughing at the defensiveness of some of the posters on this site.

You know the saying. Throw a stone into a pack of dogs and the one that yelps is the one you hit.

🤦‍♂️
Nonsensical word salad. All that typing and you didn't say anything. You're the defensive one, refusing to support your statements.
 
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😂 - me laughing at the defensiveness of some of the posters on this site.

You know the saying. Throw a stone into a pack of dogs and the one that yelps is the one you hit.

🤦‍♂️
Asking you to clarify your statement with a question is not being defensive, only in your imagination. Still incapable of answering a simple question. 😆
 
Asking you to clarify your statement with a question is not being defensive, only in your imagination. Still incapable of answering a simple question. 😆
As soon as all they do is refuse to answer and use emojis, they can't be taken seriously. My 11 year old niece acts the same way.
 
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Sure thing. How about put up or shut up. You some sort of coward or something? Maybe just a coward in your convictions.
LOL - Oh my. This has gone from sadly funny to now just sad. If you worry that you may have made war a hobby and you begin to call others cowards because of your concern, you probably have made war a hobby. Just say’n, chief.
 
There's also a self-righteous "feel good" aspect to it, unearned virtue.

But back to your regular scheduling programming, tick-tock.

F_EqdLUaMAAMbKK
 
There's also a self-righteous "feel good" aspect to it, unearned virtue.

But back to your regular scheduling programming, tick-tock.

F_EqdLUaMAAMbKK
I'm good with containment. Are you? Sounds like it. But even that will take more USA bucks.
 
Mostly but because of poor spending decisions such as this. There are legitimate things the government should be spending money on. Unfortunately that's only probably 20% of their actual expenditure
Not nearly in the class of green energy subs, covid bailouts, student loan forgiveness, Education Dept. Please post as much on them somewhere. Thank you.
 
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LOL - Oh my. This has gone from sadly funny to now just sad. If you worry that you may have made war a hobby and you begin to call others cowards because of your concern, you probably have made war a hobby. Just say’n, chief.
A hobby? That doesn't even make sense. As for the tone of my posts this weekend, I apologize. I had a bad health weekend and I tend to be short fused and an ass when that happens. It isn't an excuse but it is a reality I'm learning to deal with.
 
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A hobby? That doesn't even make sense. As for the tone of my posts this weekend, I apologize. I had a bad health weekend and I tend to be short fused and an ass when that happens. It isn't an excuse but it is a reality I'm learning to deal with.
Hope you're doing better now!
 
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