Speak for yourself. I see the remnants of a treasonous hoax being used to prop up something that has no bearing on the actual crisis.
The Ukraine war. (Yes, we'll mind our manners)
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Dear lord, we didn't install Zelensky. I will give you extra credit for your extreme use of hyperbole though. Well done.
Sure... I look forward to continually reading your collective rationalizations and insults along the way.
I haven't insulted you in quite some time. I do disagree with you on so many levels its funny.
Apparently, it is!
At least the Russians have admitted the ship was damaged.
Yeah.
And so was the Arizona in 12-07-41!
Sweden sending troops.
www.newsweek.com
Next NATO member commits troops to Russia border after 200-year neutrality
Sweden, still waiting to become a full member, will send "ground combat units" to NATO's eastern frontier.
www.newsweek.com
Not to their border since Sw doesn't border R, but to Latvia.Sweden sending troops.
Next NATO member commits troops to Russia border after 200-year neutrality
Sweden, still waiting to become a full member, will send "ground combat units" to NATO's eastern frontier.
From the linked article:
Kristersson said on Monday that his government is increasing defense spending by some $2.6 billion to reach the NATO spending target of 2 percent of GDP. "Defense expenditure will have doubled between 2020 and 2024, and with greater resources comes a greater responsibility to use them effectively," the prime minister said. "Defending Sweden in war is our defining task."
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Sweden will defend ABBA until the last piece of IKEA furniture is burned to the ground!
UK joining fun, too.
news.sky.com
UK to deploy 20,000 troops to NATO military drill to practice repelling a Russian invasion
In a speech today, the defence secretary is expected to announce the deployment of the army, navy and RAF personnel to the 31-nation Steadfast Defender military exercise across Europe.
If I could give this a thumbs up and a thumbs down at the same time, I would.
Don’t be such a meatball. Sweden could pancake any number of small countries. When they send the dala horses to the border, you know they mean bi-ness.
Remember when people claimed there was no way this could be a world war.UK joining fun, too.
UK to deploy 20,000 troops to NATO military drill to practice repelling a Russian invasion
In a speech today, the defence secretary is expected to announce the deployment of the army, navy and RAF personnel to the 31-nation Steadfast Defender military exercise across Europe.
No, I don’t.
I remember some folks claimed Ukraine would be finished in days . . . in weeks . . . in months.
And that China was taking notes for Taiwan.
The second guess was right, but the notes are not what many expected.
@The-Hack
The pushback against anyone who suggested the hint of this blowing up has been expressed in this thread and in the one where the OP suggested the threat of a WW.
World war thread
We re in the midst of the beginning stages of a global war. Ukraine is now attacking targets in Sudan. Wtf? Armenia and Azerbaijan are in the beginning stages of a new war. The US just appeased Iran with ridiculous amounts of money for nothing after the last administration killed their chief...
kentucky.forums.rivals.com
Oh, you mean @Wildcats1st?
Sure, but that Central American brother has been in a homemade fallout shelter since 2017 (right next to a soccer field).
He was predicting imminent nuclear war on February 14, 2022, in the initial Ukraine thread.
He’s backed off of it, sort of piecemeal, as time has worn on, but I’m sure he still has the lead-lined undies within reach . . . near the tin foil hat!!
Heaven knows the latest news has surely proven him wrong. More countries amassing can’t be anything but good. No way something could happen to trigger more involvement. Those tinfoil hatters!!
Focus on the “no way” in my post and you may understand my intent. Enjoy the rest of your day.
The cited focus of your argument is the deployment of 20K British Troops to defend Western (and now Central Europe) from Putin.
Given that the Brits played a strong role in the lengthiest and most successful and peaceful alliance against Soviet Russia, I think this “amassing of nations” to be, as you put it, indeed, “nothing but good.”
No offense, but your recent series of posts here leave me confused. Guess it's me.
Not offended, but your confusion is hard to remedy without explanation.
The UK, Sweden and others, going to a border to present a front to Russia can both be a move that secures peace, as Hack suggested, and a move that creates potential for a larger war. Both are potentially true. I pray for the former.
That said, the physical presence of European forces other than Ukrainian forces takes us potentially one step closer to a more involved war.
How much longer are some people going to pretend Ukraine can win? Russia is more ensconced than ever.
Did the NATO forces confronting nose-to-nose Warsaw Pact forces for 45 years take us close to a more involved war? Or prevent it? I mean USSR troops literally surrounded ours in West Berlin & WTF ever happened? Zilch. To me, that's the biggest evidence out there.
Net, I don't see how you conclude these other NATO forces risk a greater war - at all. Think us stopping supplying Israel & not having a carrier or two nearby in the ME would reduce the risk for a greater war?
The thought processes here dumbfound me.
I’m claiming the truism proved by 80+ years of historical experience: Neville Chamberlainesc appeasement is more likely to lead to confrontation with authoritarian expansionists, and a NATO-like, strong defense of is more likely to prevent confrontation with them.
I think this is true but at the same time how long does it go on? It can’t be indefinite and we could have gotten the same result a year ago as we could today, or a year from today.
Oh, are these examples of Russia being at actual war with another European country and NATO backing the country with both money and now a physical presence? Has that history happened before? Huh, I missed it. Interesting.
A fine analogy to how Biden and NATO should have responded when Russia lined the border with armaments. Appeasement, rather, seemed to have been the game plan. We are past that point.
If Ukraine can win the war by countries showing a physical presence, that would be good. But, that seems unlikely. No one believes that will help. It also seems unlikely that Russia would or could proceed past Ukraine, regardless of UK troop placement.
If a man wants to avoid hitting his enemy, he is least likely to throw the punch if he does not travel across town to be in the same room as his enemy. Once he finds himself in the same room, any number of events could cause the punch to be thrown.
Well, the USSR ran over Hungary in 1956 & Chechia in 1968. Did you miss those wars when NATO was on the border of the WP? Did USSR go beyond those countries with NATO next door? Also, Russia took parts of Georgia and Ukraine earlier. Did those spill over further with NATO next door?
All of this I remember crap has me remembering the most important part about all of this and that is that with all of our monetary and weapons support, Ukraine was supposed to have pushed Russia back because they (Russia) could not sustain the war after the first three to 6 months. Seems people have forgotten that part. What happened to that assessment from our resident supporters of sending more taxpayer dollars to a lost cause/laundering scheme.
Canary in the coal mine or fearmongering?
www.dailymail.co.uk
Germany's fears of Putin and WW3 are justified, says former commander
Retired Lieutenant General Ben Hodges today said that if nations don't take the threat of Russia 'seriously' and act in 'alliance' then an all-out war could develop in just 18 months.
You have convinced me. Nothing bad can happen by one of the largest NATO deployments since the end of the Cold War. All is good. Thanks.
Nothing bad can happen is a conversion from your original,
"the physical presence of European forces other than Ukrainian forces takes us potentially one step closer to a more involved war." ,
which is implying the moves threaten peace. Thanks.
