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Taylor Swift - Would we have even heard of her if she existed in the 70's?

Queens of the Stone Age are a all timer band for me. Love those guys and their current drummer is one of my favorites all time.

You mention 3 chord structure not working in the 70s as if she wouldn't cater her music to what is popular at the time. This is why this is so fool hardy.

Would "Bad Blood" be a hit in 1974? Probably not. Most people would listen to a song like that and wonder how some of those sounds are possible.

The top song of 1974, according to Google, was The Way We Were by Streisand which featured an Orchestra. Would Taylor swift have used an Orchestra back then? Maybe? I bet she would also implement more complex chord structures like you find in another top hit of 1974, John Denvers Annie's Song.

All that said, the whole thread just reads like sour grapes. The woman is wildly popular and has a gigantic fan base. Something she is doing resonates with her fans.

Also, Philadelphia was heavily in the house last night at the super bowl. Those animals booed Santa Claus and have a statue of rocky balboa. I'm not taking their opinion on anything seriously.
I agree on QOTSA.

We can certainly agree to disagree. She is certainly a Grade A marketer. Songwriter - lyrically? Her stuff certainly must resonate with teenage females. Musically? Nah. Steely Dan or PFloyd would laugh at her while handing her a crayon. She sails, surrounded in a sea of mediocrity. There is NO competition. There is no actual comparison for her to pale to in comparison. She is the one eyed woman in the land of the blind. The 70's or 80's would not be the best era to drop her into. Too many sighted. JMHO.
 
I agree on QOTSA.

We can certainly agree to disagree. She is certainly a Grade A marketer. Songwriter - lyrically? Her stuff certainly must resonate with teenage females. Musically? Nah. Steely Dan or PFloyd would laugh at her while handing her a crayon. She sails, surrounded in a sea of mediocrity. There is NO competition. There is no actual comparison for her to pale to in comparison. She is the one eyed woman in the land of the blind. The 70's or 80's would not be the best era to drop her into. Too many sighted. JMHO.

Steely Dan and Pink Floyd would run circles around a pop star? No shit? They ran circles musically around the pop stars of the 70s too.

Its weird because the 70s wasn't the era of solo female vocalists, so it's another moot point to make. If Taylor Swift was popular in the 70s, it's unlikely that she's doing it alone. Abba, Fleetwood Mac, etc would have been the required route. In the same way Stevie depended on Lindsey to make the music fit her lyrics, solo pop artist now collaborate with producers.

All indications point to TS writing her own music and lyrics in an era where you just don't see that anymore. Her competition walks into the studio to prepared music. It's hyper commercialized and the fact that TS (originally) wasn't so prepackaged was likely something that initially attracted fans to her. And, as a parent to a daughter, the fact that she didn't immediately decide to try to sell her body rather than her music was a nice change of pace.

Having had to listen to more TS than I care to admit, I preferred her singer/songwriter/country phase over the more bubblegum pop stuff she has done of late. But none of it is revolutionary.

She's not a better artist than Stevie, but she is dominating a period in time when ears can listen to nearly anything they want with a simple click of a button and that is remarkable.

Which brings me to another point. Music is more diluted than it's ever been. I the 70s you listened to the radio. It was likely the sole source of new music for a ton of fans. It was infinitely harder to be heard and make it then, but there seemed to be a lot less competition for attention once you got through that initial barrier. If there's an artist that can perform and create music better than TS, all they need is a PC and social media to get started.

So while the competition isnt as stiff, the pure number of artists TS competes with is much larger.
 
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Steely Dan and Pink Floyd would run circles around a pop star? No shit? They ran circles musically around the pop stars of the 70s too.

Its weird because the 70s wasn't the era of solo female vocalists, so it's another moot point to make. If Taylor Swift was popular in the 70s, it's unlikely that she's doing it alone. Abba, Fleetwood Mac, etc would have been the required route. In the same way Stevie depended on Lindsey to make the music fit her lyrics, solo pop artist now collaborate with producers.
It was pretty much exactly my point. You didn't mention the Wilson sisters. It was the BAND and not the pop star era. Would she have become Debbi Harry? Very possibly...but as a "Blondie." Now we may be finding some common ground.

Would she succeed as a vocalist in the 70's? Her voice is not that good or at least as those you and I have referenced. Not even close. Christine McVei level, maybe. She also is not as attractive as those above either which matters. I just don't think she could crack through on her own doing what she does now. In the '70s you did not typically find female acts at the top of the charts. Spare me Debbie Boone, Carol King, Aretha etc.... They are female artists who had amazing voices that didnt require a video to sell the song.

Now female music is all there is. No bands. (I can cherry pick random KPop or boy bands too). The industry is different today and not in a good way.
 
Its weird because the 70s wasn't the era of solo female vocalists,

Linda Ronstadt
Aretha Franklin
Carly Simon
Dolly Parton
Olivia Newton-John
Diana Ross
Roberta Flack
Carole King
Loretta Lynn

....all were in their prime in the 70's, and their singles and awards were numerous.

You aren't very good at this.
 
Linda Ronstadt
Aretha Franklin
Carly Simon
Dolly Parton
Olivia Newton-John
Diana Ross
Roberta Flack
Carole King
Loretta Lynn

....all were in their prime in the 70's, and their singles and awards were numerous.

You aren't very good at this.
His point is universally accepted in the music industry. If you look at the charts it really was an era dominated by male acts, especially bands. Were there some female acts that cracked through...certainly. Your list has a lot of them.
 
His point is universally accepted in the music industry. If you look at the charts it really was an era dominated by male acts, especially bands. Were there some female acts that cracked through...certainly. Your list has a lot of them.

You can say that about every era, but that wasn't his statement. The 70's were iconic for epic female vocalists, and I left out many. They definitely didn't just "crack through".
 
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