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State of 2022 Recruiting

I don't think we're ****ed with the NIL. If that was the case, we would've already lost Goodwin.
You’re solid and respect your opinion but I think NIL is geared towards “stars” meaning offensive standouts and defensive playmakers (secondary and edge rushers). I don’t see many o-linemen or interior d-line guys getting serious NIL contracts and that in itself may be our saving grace since we’re trending as a school that puts those guys in the league.
 
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I think all HC's want to expand their program's recruiting footprint. But, in all actuality, there are only around ten programs (if that) that can go nearly anywhere to recruit and Kentucky isn't there yet. Hopefully, one day.
Illinois is a boarder state and Buffano is a Youngstown Midwesterner so there could be a chance there.
I agree tho, its quite a mountain to climb at the moment.
 
This post has merit IMO. Here are a couple of my thoughts and/or suggestions. 1) If I'm Stoops, I scale back the areas UK is trying to recruit. Get Buffano out of Missouri and Illinois. Get White off the Eastern Seaboard.

Kentucky just isn't going to do anything recruiting wise in Missouri and Illinois. I think Buffano can be a decent/good recruiter, but he was assigned an area that immediately put him behind the eight ball. White is recruiting the Northeast, NJ, VA, NC areas and same thing as Buffano. Your wasting him in those areas when you might be lucky to get one guy every 2-3 years. Put them somewhere in the southeast and let them get started.

2) I really wished that Kentucky had been able to keep Coach Singleton. In the few weeks that he was here, he showed a personality and a juice that I think would have given him a chance to be an effective recruiter. Settle is a great position coach, just isn't a recruiter.

3) The elephant in the room with Bouknight. I still don't know what to make of his situation. Some reports suggested he was almost let go at the end of last season. Now, you have legal issues. I don't expect you see him remain with Kentucky after this season, but in the meantime, the situation just isn't ideal.

4) You have a lot of new coaches on staff after the turnover. Wolford is a go-getter and will be a plus as a recruiter. Collins has huge potential as a recruiter and is someone that I am very high on, bit it is likely going to take him some time to get rolling. I also that that Coen will be effective recruiting offensive skill guys, but again, has to show results on the field this fall first.

5) Obviously Marrow and Sumrall are the heavy lifters right now and having only two is a killer for a program like Kentucky in the SEC. The loss of Clink looms large here. Anwar Stewart is starting to find his footing, but still may be a little ways away. Very promising though.

6) In summation, Kentucky really needs a couple more weapons on the trail right now. Bouknight and Settle are non recruiters right now for different reasons. Buffano and White need to be relocated to areas where they can have a fighting chance IMO. That is four assistants right there giving you basically nothing at the moment. Then, throw in new staff members and that is why this 2022 class momentum has came to a halt.

Long winded post, but just my observations.
Totally agree with everything you identified as problems in recruiting right now.

We have completely lost momentum in recruiting and unless Coen puts an exciting and successful offense on the field THIS YEAR I fear that we will take a huge step back next year in recruiting.

We are fortunate that VM has been able to secure most of the top prospects in the Commonwealth, but it appears to have come at the expense of losing out on some Ohio recruits.

Recruiting is just off and misplaced right now. Someone has to rethink assignments and areas of priorities and get the heck out of the NE where we very seldom land a single top recruit and focus more on the southern states where talent is abundant.

The landscape of college football is going to change drastically and I am concerned that CMS may not be getting ahead of the upcoming changes to the conference and the ultimate challenge in recruiting that is coming with those changes.
 
Stoops simply can’t hire yet another assistant with virtually zero sec recruiting chops. He currently has one of the least experienced staff around when it comes to recruiting, he’s gotta hire an ace or two.
 
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Stoops simply can’t hire yet another assistant with virtually zero sec recruiting chops. He currently has one of the least experienced staff around when it comes to recruiting, he’s gotta hire an ace or two.
If you are talking about Woodward, I would I typically agree, but we both know Stoops is a loyal guy and will have a lot of trust in Coen if this fall goes well. Just playing the odds here, I think he would be the favorite for the job. He's seemingly already done more recruiting wise than Bouknight.
 
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I think Cobb will retire in the next 2-3 years.

Randall Cobb, WR Coach, University of Kentucky

Boom

I am waiting for UGA to hire Hines Ward as our WR coach. Not many can walk into a living room with a SB MVP ring. Mamas will love him, great personality and smile. He has made it know he wants to, has taken NFL seminars for players wanting to get into coaching, coached in the NFLa couple years and is FIU this year. Hopefully our current gets an offer at season's end and Hines comes home.
 
I am waiting for UGA to hire Hines Ward as our WR coach. Not many can walk into a living room with a SB MVP ring. Mamas will love him, great personality and smile. He has made it know he wants to, has taken NFL seminars for players wanting to get into coaching, coached in the NFLa couple years and is FIU this year. Hopefully our current gets an offer at season's end and Hines comes home.
Hanktons not been an overly impressive WR coach comparative to the talent he brings in.
 
Joshua Joseph, LB, Kennesaw, GA
Jawaun Northington ATH, Louisville, KY
Quinton Conley, WR, KS City, MO,
Dane Key, WR, Lexington, KY
Hunter Mclain, OG, Daleville, VA,
Grayson Morgan, OL, Nashville, TN,
Aamil Wagner, OL, Dayton, OH,
Kaydin Pope WR Savannah, TN
Bryson Hurst, OT, Gautier MS
Ka'Marii Landers OT, Dearborn, MI
Tyler Banks, ATH, Crewe, VA
Dijons Jennings, QB, Reynoldsburg, OH
Tomiwa Durojaiye, DL, Middletown, DE
Tyrese Fearbry, EDGE, Pittsburgh, PA trending
Omari Kelly WR , Trussville, AL
Barion Brown WR, Nashville, TN
Elijah Reed DB, Louisville, KY
Ryan Baer, OL, Eastlake, OH, (trending to Pitt)
Drew Bobo, OL, Columbia, SC,
 
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Joshua Joseph, LB, Kennesaw, GA
Jawaun Northington ATH, Louisville, KY
Quinton Conley, WR, KS City, MO,
Dane Key, WR, Lexington, KY
Hunter Mclain, OG, Daleville, VA,
Grayson Morgan, OL, Nashville, TN,
Aamil Wagner, OL, Dayton, OH,
Kaydin Pope WR Savannah, TN
Bryson Hurst, OT, Gautier MS
Ka'Marii Landers OT, Dearborn, MI
Tyler Banks, ATH, Crewe, VA
Dijons Jennings, QB, Reynoldsburg, OH
Tomiwa Durojaiye, DL, Middletown, DE
Tyrese Fearbry, EDGE, Pittsburgh, PA trending
Omari Kelly WR , Trussville, AL
Barion Brown WR, Nashville, TN
Elijah Reed DB, Louisville, KY
Ryan Baer, OL, Eastlake, OH, (trending to Pitt)
Drew Bobo, OL, Columbia, SC,
 
Joshua Joseph, LB, Kennesaw, GA
Jawaun Northington ATH, Louisville, KY
Quinton Conley, WR, KS City, MO,
Dane Key, WR, Lexington, KY
Hunter Mclain, OG, Daleville, VA,
Grayson Morgan, OL, Nashville, TN,
Aamil Wagner, OL, Dayton, OH,
Kaydin Pope WR Savannah, TN
Bryson Hurst, OT, Gautier MS
Ka'Marii Landers OT, Dearborn, MI
Tyler Banks, ATH, Crewe, VA
Dijons Jennings, QB, Reynoldsburg, OH
Tomiwa Durojaiye, DL, Middletown, DE
Tyrese Fearbry, EDGE, Pittsburgh, PA TRENDING UK
Omari Kelly WR , Trussville, AL
Barion Brown WR, Nashville, TN
Elijah Reed DB, Louisville, KY
Ryan Baer, OL, Eastlake, OH, (trending to Pitt)
Drew Bobo, OL, Columbia, SC,
 
Their source is on3 and they are just saying UK is coming hard for him. The way I read was Pitt is in the lead. It was just for clicks
Well on3 bought KSR, so Roush and those guys will be writing for them. I mean, they are fine,, but you have to remember, they approach things with more of a fan boy side.
 
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Well on3 bought KSR, so Roush and those guys will be writing for them. I mean, they are fine,, but you have to remember, they approach things with more of a fan boy side.
I pretty much agree. I think Luckett writes some ok breakdowns and knows the landscape of college football pretty well. Roush just churns out miserable click-bait fan boy stuff. He doesn’t seem nearly as knowledgeable.
 
As expected, Baer commits to Pittsburg. Sounds like some positive noise around Aamil Wagner though. Curious if he’s really down to UK and Notre Dame if OSU ended up passing on him. I know they’re listed as having offered.
 
Joshua Joseph, LB, Kennesaw, GA
Jawaun Northington ATH, Louisville, KY
Quinton Conley, WR, KS City, MO,
Dane Key, WR, Lexington, KY
Tyrese Fearbry, EDGE, Pittsburgh, PA
Hunter Mclain, OG, Daleville, VA,
Grayson Morgan, OL, Nashville, TN,
Aamil Wagner, OL, Dayton, OH,
Kaydin Pope WR Savannah, TN
Bryson Hurst, OT, Gautier MS
Ka'Marii Landers OT, Dearborn, MI
Tyler Banks, ATH, Crewe, VA
Dijons Jennings, QB, Reynoldsburg, OH
Tomiwa Durojaiye, DL, Middletown, DE
Omari Kelly WR , Trussville, AL
Barion Brown WR, Nashville, TN
Elijah Reed DB, Louisville, KY
Ryan Baer, OL, Eastlake, OH, COMMIT TO PITT
Drew Bobo, OL, Columbia, SC,
 
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Something interesting is 247 has Fearby as warm for UK and cold for everyone else. Not sure if that is an accident or not
 
As expected, Baer commits to Pittsburg. Sounds like some positive noise around Aamil Wagner though. Curious if he’s really down to UK and Notre Dame if OSU ended up passing on him. I know they’re listed as having offered.
Idk if OSU passed on him or he cooled on them, but the word has been for a while that it was UK and ND
 
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I pretty much agree. I think Luckett writes some ok breakdowns and knows the landscape of college football pretty well. Roush just churns out miserable click-bait fan boy stuff. He doesn’t seem nearly as knowledgeable.
NR is the most annoying “sports media” guy covering UK, IMO. He really isn’t very knowledgeable & only got the gig bc he’s related to the Brohms, IMO. It sure wasn’t bc of his writing ability or personality. Drives me nuts bc I like to listen to the podcasts that Freddie is on but it mostly ends up being an hour of NR refusing to shut up & talking over everyone else.

And, they stick him on every football podcast they have so I basically stopped listening. I’d like to see Freddie do his podcast with somebody like Jeff Piecoro, Jeremy Jarmon, or any ex-UK player who knows the game & is comfortable behind the mic/camera. Or, just ANYBODY who is not NR. Freddie is really good & deserves so much better.
 
45 years ago isn't recently. I do like Larry Fitzgerald tho.
Pitt has had 18 players drafted since 2015, whereas UK has had only 16 and we have had a few years where no one was drafted. They have been more consistent in producing NFL talent, but our trajectory looks to be headed in the right direction.
 
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NR is the most annoying “sports media” guy covering UK, IMO. He really isn’t very knowledgeable & only got the gig bc he’s related to the Brohms, IMO. It sure wasn’t bc of his writing ability or personality. Drives me nuts bc I like to listen to the podcasts that Freddie is on but it mostly ends up being an hour of NR refusing to shut up & talking over everyone else.

And, they stick him on every football podcast they have so I basically stopped listening. I’d like to see Freddie do his podcast with somebody like Jeff Piecoro, Jeremy Jarmon, or any ex-UK player who knows the game & is comfortable behind the mic/camera. Or, just ANYBODY who is not NR. Freddie is really good & deserves so much better.
I'm glad I'm not the only one who feels that way.
 
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College coaching staffs are full of them, most schools have more than 1.
There's a big difference between former NFL players who are already millionaires because of their playing days -vs- coaches/coordinators who are making their money via coaching. Coaches are used to grinding it out doing what coaches do. (The coaching grind is what got them where they are.) Former players, who decide to get into coaching, are beginning something they've never done before. They already know the intricacies of the game, but sleeping in the ofc watching film and spending months on the road recruiting is a different kind of grind.

Most college position coaches (WR) are not making anywhere close to what coordinators get paid. I think many former NFL players also struggle coming into a system where they are not the primary decision maker. (Ex - WR coach working under a coordinator.)

Some HBCU's have recently hired former NFL players with no coaching experience as head coaches. (Deon Sanders & Eddie George) This will help some schools generate publicity and probably some television exposure. It will be interesting to see if these guys leverage their success for a similar P5 job. Their success may cause some P5 schools to fast-track someone directly to a coordinator position.

A few former NFL players will always pay their dues and work their way up through the coaching ranks. Others will express a desire to get into coaching, but bail out when they see what the first 2-3 years looks like.

Ironically, the NFL is an easier path for former players to get into coaching. The need for college assistants to also be good recruiters creates a unique ... and difficult ... situation.

Having said that, I think RC would make a great WR coach.
 
There's a big difference between former NFL players who are already millionaires because of their playing days -vs- coaches/coordinators who are making their money via coaching. Coaches are used to grinding it out doing what coaches do. (The coaching grind is what got them where they are.) Former players, who decide to get into coaching, are beginning something they've never done before. They already know the intricacies of the game, but sleeping in the ofc watching film and spending months on the road recruiting is a different kind of grind.

Most college position coaches (WR) are not making anywhere close to what coordinators get paid. I think many former NFL players also struggle coming into a system where they are not the primary decision maker. (Ex - WR coach working under a coordinator.)

Some HBCU's have recently hired former NFL players with no coaching experience as head coaches. (Deon Sanders & Eddie George) This will help some schools generate publicity and probably some television exposure. It will be interesting to see if these guys leverage their success for a similar P5 job. Their success may cause some P5 schools to fast-track someone directly to a coordinator position.

A few former NFL players will always pay their dues and work their way up through the coaching ranks. Others will express a desire to get into coaching, but bail out when they see what the first 2-3 years looks like.

Ironically, the NFL is an easier path for former players to get into coaching. The need for college assistants to also be good recruiters creates a unique ... and difficult ... situation.

Having said that, I think RC would make a great WR
There is but that wasnt what you said.

Hines Ward has said he would love to coach WR with Kirby. I dont know if he has his degree or not, or even if it is a requirement. But since making that statement he has coached in the NFL 2 years, as ND is at one of the Florida schools this year. I think he would kill it in recruiting, multiple year all pro, multiple year pro bowler multiple Super Bowl wins, NFL HOF and a Super Bowl MVP. Plus a Dancing with the Stars winner. The mamas will love him. I hope Kirby hires him in some capacity after this season.
 
There is but that wasnt what you said.

Hines Ward has said he would love to coach WR with Kirby. I dont know if he has his degree or not, or even if it is a requirement. But since making that statement he has coached in the NFL 2 years, as ND is at one of the Florida schools this year. I think he would kill it in recruiting, multiple year all pro, multiple year pro bowler multiple Super Bowl wins, NFL HOF and a Super Bowl MVP. Plus a Dancing with the Stars winner. The mamas will love him. I hope Kirby hires him in some capacity after this season.
Hell, after that buildup I hope UK hires him, lol.
 
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There is but that wasnt what you said.

Hines Ward has said he would love to coach WR with Kirby. I dont know if he has his degree or not, or even if it is a requirement. But since making that statement he has coached in the NFL 2 years, as ND is at one of the Florida schools this year. I think he would kill it in recruiting, multiple year all pro, multiple year pro bowler multiple Super Bowl wins, NFL HOF and a Super Bowl MVP. Plus a Dancing with the Stars winner. The mamas will love him. I hope Kirby hires him in some capacity after this season.
One example. The college football coaching ranks are not “Full” of multimillionaires that made their money in the NFL.
 
Anyone else suspect Baer got the impression he was likely to land at RT or G at UK? I would, if enrolling with Goodwin.
 
Anyone else suspect Baer got the impression he was likely to land at RT or G at UK? I would, if enrolling with Goodwin.
Yeah Rock and others had said the whole time he was prob a guard. He will prob play RT at Pitt. He prob wouldn't have seen much PT here for 2-3 years. I think that played the bigger role
 
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Yeah Rock and others had said the whole time he was prob a guard. He will prob play RT at Pitt. He prob wouldn't have seen much PT here for 2-3 years. I think that played the bigger role
Or UK has been shooting blanks in recruiting for 3 months after getting off to a hot start...

UK's loses 5 OL this year....there is all times of early playing time available and a kid like Baer could beat out RJ Adams, Quinten Wilson, John Young, etc... for early PT.

I think UK recruiting has taken a step back with the loss of Clink alongside the new NIL elephant in the room....nonethless....what started out looking like best class ever at UK is not shaping up that way at the current trajectory.
 
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Or UK has been shooting blanks in recruiting for 3 months after getting off to a hot start...

UK's loses 5 OL this year....there is all times of early playing time available and a kid like Baer could beat out RJ Adams, Quinten Wilson, John Young, etc... for early PT.

I think UK recruiting has taken a step back with the loss of Clink alongside the new NIL elephant in the room....nonethless....what started out looking like best class ever at UK is not shaping up that way at the current trajectory.
If they can get Wagner and Key is be pretty happy with the class. I think that’s in the realm of possibility.
 
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