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I literally said he’s a take but not a savior. Did that not explain I wanted him but won’t handwring if we don’t get him
I dont think anybody thinks any of Poplar, Lanier, or Robinson are ''saviors''. Just good players who can score and round the roster out. So thats a moot point and another strawman.
 
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After reading this whole thread it's pretty obvious all the folks who didn't want Pope hired are congregate here to snipe and bitch because they aren't satisfied with hire. They are doing just as I predicted 2 months ago, dig in and not even giving the new a chance to even coach 1 team. I don't know if this was a good hire or not, but I will not spew shit at the man before he has even coached a game. Some of you people have the frustration tolerance of a Knat.
 
After reading this whole thread it's pretty obvious all the folks who didn't want Pope hired are congregate here to snipe and bitch because they aren't satisfied with hire. They are doing just as I predicted 2 months ago, dig in and not even giving the new a chance to even coach 1 team. I don't know if this was a good hire or not, but I will not spew shit at the man before he has even coached a game. Some of you people have the frustration tolerance of a Knat.
Borther, it ain't about Pope. It really isn't. I loved Pope when he was here and I don't have the slightest thing against him. It's not him. It's the lack of support for the program from the people who matter.
 
I don't see how anyone could be 100% satisfied with the hire . I like Pope's messaging, fans and school first. Love it. Love his passion for UK. But if passion and taglines won NCAA titles we'd have 200 of them. We're banking on this guy being our Hurley. He has 0 NCAAT wins, he coached at a midmajor and then a religious school. Unknown in recruiting circles. We very much have a guy who is learning on the job still. And when you look at the optics around his hire. With the swim team scandal coming out right after Pope was hired. Implicating Mitch Banrhart. It just screams a safe and panic hire for UK.


We had better hope he works out because I don't feel good about going back to a coaching search. With even further damage heaped onto the program. Cal already did a number on us. Our optics are down. People laugh at UK and aren't afraid of us anymore. The popular narrative even if it's wrong. Is we got turned down by everybody and had to scramble and hire a former player.

I'm not gonna stop being objective because he played here 30 years ago. The early misses are concerning. Even with his allstar staff.
 
They beat us last 2 times we played and time before last was 30 something pts with our stars

If Jaxson stays in then he was never an option to miss on.
Curious, if Calipari was still here. Would you would say this? Seems all the misses under Cal were called correctly misses. But under Pope the misses are suddenly ''not misses''.
 
I don't see how anyone could be 100% satisfied with the hire . I like Pope's messaging, fans and school first. Love it. Love his passion for UK. But if passion and taglines won NCAA titles we'd have 200 of them. We're banking on this guy being our Hurley. He has 0 NCAAT wins, he coached at a midmajor and then a religious school. Unknown in recruiting circles. We very much have a guy who is learning on the job still. And when you look at the optics around his hire. With the swim team scandal coming out right after Pope was hired. Implicating Mitch Banrhart. It just screams a safe and panic hire for UK.


We had better hope he works out because I don't feel good about going back to a coaching search. With even further damage heaped onto the program. Cal already did a number on us. Our optics are down. People laugh at UK and aren't afraid of us anymore. The popular narrative even if it's wrong. Is we got turned down by everybody and had to scramble and hire a former player.

I'm not gonna stop being objective because he played here 30 years ago. The early misses are concerning. Even with his allstar staff.
He’s unknown but that’s no reason to panic. Wait until the end of season 2 for that
 
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Curious, if Calipari was still here. Would you would say this? Seems all the misses under Cal were called correctly misses. But under Pope the misses are suddenly ''not misses''.
Did you not see me a billion times since 2019 say I have no faith in cal?

Pope deserves 2 years to show he’s building something. He hasn’t give a reason to think he’s BCG yet
 
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Did you not see me a billion times since 2019 say I have no faith in cal?
I know. I'm just saying. It seems like when we had Cal. And the vast majority of this board didn't like him. The misses were called misses. Under Pope the misses are excused. It seems all objectivity has gone out the window around here.
 
The real UK fans please answer, what was Pope supposed to do if Jaxson just wanted to start his dreams of being a pro?

What was Pope supposed to do if Mahaney wanted to go to Uconn over UK?
What was Pope supposed to do if Lanier wanted to go to Tennessee over UK?



Your job in recruiting is to persuade a player to come play for you. The elite recruiters can get kids in insane circumstances. They get it done. They don't make excuses.
 
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What was Pope supposed to do if Mahaney wanted to go to Uconn over UK?
What was Pope supposed to do if Lanier wanted to go to Tennessee over UK?



Your job in recruiting is to persuade a player to come play for you. The elite recruiters can get kids in insane circumstances. They get it done. They don't make excuses.
He was hired 45 days ago. And he didn't have a staff/roster until a week in.

It's still way too early to say if he's an elite recruiter or not.
 
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The real UK fans please answer, what was Pope supposed to do if Jaxson just wanted to start his dreams of being a pro?
Nothing he can do. If he wants to go pro then all kentucky can do is congratulate him and find somebody else. But it will be counted as miss, which is stupid because you can’t miss on somebody if there weren’t an option(assuming he stays in the draft).
 
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What was Pope supposed to do if Mahaney wanted to go to Uconn over UK?
What was Pope supposed to do if Lanier wanted to go to Tennessee over UK?



Your job in recruiting is to persuade a player to come play for you. The elite recruiters can get kids in insane circumstances. They get it done. They don't make excuses.
They got somebody literally 2 days after Mahaney who is just as good as he is if not better. Laneir they tried and he went to the school that got him out into the portal to begin with.
 
He was hired 45 days ago. And he didn't have a staff/roster until a week in.

It's still way too early to say if he's an elite recruiter or not.
He can be the most elite recruiter in the country. It doesn't matter anymore. It's about what size bag you can provide. Anyone suggesting anything else is living in a fantasy world. Or more likely, they just don't want to face up to that's why we are not landing the elite players.
 
What was Pope supposed to do if Mahaney wanted to go to Uconn over UK?
What was Pope supposed to do if Lanier wanted to go to Tenneesee over UK?



Your job in recruiting is to persuade a player to come play for you. The elite recruiters can get kids in insane circumstances. They get it done. They don't make excuses.
is he also to blame for Sheppard not coming back?
 
The real UK fans please answer, what was Pope supposed to do if Jaxson just wanted to start his dreams of being a pro?

If one stipulates standards then it is a license to toss reason out the window allowing one to chalk up such trifles as free will and even physics (given the opportunity and runway) as "excuses".
 
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He can be the most elite recruiter in the country. It doesn't matter anymore. It's about what size bag you can provide. Anyone suggesting anything else is living in a fantasy world. Or more likely, they just don't want to face up to that's why we are not landing the elite players.
BYU offered Chaz 600k more than tenn. We and byu and Kansas would give Robinson more money than any contract he’d sign so it’s not just about the size of the bag
 
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If one stipulates standards then it is a license to toss reason out the window allowing one to chalk up such trifles as free will and even physics (given the opportunity and runway) as "excuses".
Are ByU and Kansas fans berating their coaches for not It luring Robinson out of the draft ? If he indeed stayed in the draft that is
 
He was hired 45 days ago. And he didn't have a staff/roster until a week in.

It's still way too early to say if he's an elite recruiter or not.
I don't think anyone is passing off general judgement yet. Just saying the early trend is concerning. Can he turn that around? Certainly.
 
They got somebody literally 2 days after Mahaney who is just as good as he is if not better. Laneir they tried and he went to the school that got him out into the portal to begin with.
Pay attention. I'm not talking about the act of missing Mahaney. I was just pointing out how absurd saying stuff like that is. You can chalk up every miss to ''well, what was he supposed to do if ____ wanted to ___''. Recruit.
 
BYU offered Chaz 600k more than tenn. We and byu and Kansas would give Robinson more money than any contract he’d sign so it’s not just about the size of the bag
You don't know that. It wouldn't make any sense if any of that were true. Tennessee has plenty of money so it makes zero sense they wouldn't have paid Chaz whatever he wanted. I mean, it was this board that told me he only took the other two visits to drive the price up. this board is manic depressive.
 
Pay attention. I'm not talking about the act of missing Mahaney. I was just pointing out how absurd saying stuff like that is. You can chalk up every miss to ''well, what was he supposed to do if ____ wanted to ___''. Recruit.
I was only talking about the NBA decision of Robinson. KU and BYU wanted him too and if he stayed in the draft is that concerning for them?
 
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