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Ah, Mr. Right At Every Turn strikes again. Lets see how you move those goalposts on this one sunshine.
It’s was pretty clear Russia was gonna run through all of Ukraine even with their problems until nato started arming the Ukrainians. As Ukraine was armed the demographics shifted again with mass numbers fleeing, many Ukrainians apathetic. You’re seeing a nato built Ukrainian military far different from when I made that post. The facts on the ground there change rapidly. Taking my post from prewar before nato stepped in to give them hope. Well do even remember the beginning? Zelensky and his goons running and hiding like Saddam? Those were the facts until nato gave them hope. But be my guest go drum up irrelevant out dated posts. In there you will find a whole host of takes prior to the war beginning because of the mass uncertainty. Honestly, I did not think the USA would piss away 50 billion, a quarter of ukraines gdp. By doing so taking the world to the brink where a simple mistake could lead to global war.

On a side note I’m going to guess you guys who are all in on another WW are over 60 and still in the Cold War mindset. The libs here well are the libs and old man lib in charge so they will back him hell or high water. The rest of us are young maybe have kids we don’t want to see sent to die over two thugs killing each other. You guys have by now seen the videos of Ukrainians murdering pows. I bet you have a justification for that. Well I certainly have a reason. It’s because Ukraine and Russia are cut from the same cloth and neither have respect for life. Soviet tactics while madman zelensky tries to pull the world to global conflict. Soviets russian and Ukraine. You all have been duped to think differently.
 
The fool me once shit. We have a lot of fools here. Vietnam, iraq haven’t you guys learned anything? How can you blindly support a government who has been lying to us in order to go to war for generations? It’s a legit question for what are seemingly mindless brainwashed populace. How many times are you gonna fall for this?
 
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That's a strawman.

The heart of that quote is certain defeat, achieving nothing of consequence here except under whose corruption those people must suffer, and at the risk of the safety and security of the whole of humanity.

This is your only achievement.

So we are talking traitors to their country, Ukraine, right?
 
The facts on the ground there change rapidly. Taking my post from prewar before nato stepped in to give them hope. Well do even remember the beginning? Zelensky and his goons running and hiding like Saddam? Those were the facts until nato gave them hope. But be my guest go drum up irrelevant out dated posts.
And despite facts on the ground changing rapidly, you cling to pre-2014 concepts of the brotherhood of Ukes & Rs.
 
The fool me once shit. We have a lot of fools here. Vietnam, iraq haven’t you guys learned anything? How can you blindly support a government who has been lying to us in order to go to war for generations? It’s a legit question for what are seemingly mindless brainwashed populace. How many times are you gonna fall for this?
Amen sir

multiple generations of veteran's applaud this
statement as well
 
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And despite facts on the ground changing rapidly, you cling to pre-2014 concepts of the brotherhood of Ukes & Rs.
Because… are you ready for this….since 2014 Ukraine has engaged in a genocide to rub out Russia culture. If you don’t accept that Ukraine was the puppet of a nato orchestrated coup in order to rub out their deep cultural ties then you’re not honest and it’s proof of the brainwash. Natos attempt at westernizing Ukraine completely changed the demographics. You call it rapid change but it’s actually something else. It didn’t happen naturally. It has been an ethnic cleansing. You think there isn’t an opposing faction waiting in the wings to over throw this westernized government? You think Ukraine is this homogenous culture? The crap you guys spout about a resistance in Russia could just as easily happen in Ukraine. You guys think small world and only one dimensional. This conflict is multifaceted and it’s not as black and white as your 2014 line in the sand.

And before you argue with me let me remind you of what ethnic cleansing is. Then ask yourself why did the populace do a 180 in a few short years? Like I said it didn’t just happen. There are videos circulating of Ukrainian soldiers executing Russian soldiers but no one should be surprised bc theyve been doing it many years now. No military would have the psychological capacity to execute anyone unless it was already engrained. Unless it was already widely accepted.

“Ethnic cleansing is the systematic forced removal of ethnic, racial, and religious groups from a given area, with the intent of making a region ethnically homogeneous.”
 
It’s was pretty clear Russia was gonna run through all of Ukraine even with their problems until nato started arming the Ukrainians. As Ukraine was armed the demographics shifted again with mass numbers fleeing, many Ukrainians apathetic. You’re seeing a nato built Ukrainian military far different from when I made that post. The facts on the ground there change rapidly. Taking my post from prewar before nato stepped in to give them hope. Well do even remember the beginning? Zelensky and his goons running and hiding like Saddam? Those were the facts until nato gave them hope. But be my guest go drum up irrelevant out dated posts. In there you will find a whole host of takes prior to the war beginning because of the mass uncertainty. Honestly, I did not think the USA would piss away 50 billion, a quarter of ukraines gdp. By doing so taking the world to the brink where a simple mistake could lead to global war.

On a side note I’m going to guess you guys who are all in on another WW are over 60 and still in the Cold War mindset. The libs here well are the libs and old man lib in charge so they will back him hell or high water. The rest of us are young maybe have kids we don’t want to see sent to die over two thugs killing each other. You guys have by now seen the videos of Ukrainians murdering pows. I bet you have a justification for that. Well I certainly have a reason. It’s because Ukraine and Russia are cut from the same cloth and neither have respect for life. Soviet tactics while madman zelensky tries to pull the world to global conflict. Soviets russian and Ukraine. You all have been duped to think differently.
Actually, you didn't claim a lack of weapons but a lack of will. You were dead wrong.
 
Actually, you didn't claim a lack of weapons but a lack of will. You were dead wrong.
What are you talking about? I think most Ukrainians want this over even if it means making concessions. Bc a subgroup of the country has the will as you say to fight this war does not mean there is a never ending line of willing fighters. Ukraine had to prevent men from leaving for crying out loud. And you saw as Russia bumbled it’s way through Ukraine until Ukraine was given the weapons and total nato support well I question whether they would have had it. Like I said. You’re digging up a pre invasion quote and want to put your spin on it. If nato had not intervened to the level they have no Ukrainians woulda said fk it. Life is more important than what our puppet masters want.
 
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It’s was pretty clear Russia was gonna run through all of Ukraine even with their problems until nato started arming the Ukrainians. As Ukraine was armed the demographics shifted again with mass numbers fleeing, many Ukrainians apathetic. You’re seeing a nato built Ukrainian military far different from when I made that post. The facts on the ground there change rapidly. Taking my post from prewar before nato stepped in to give them hope. Well do even remember the beginning? Zelensky and his goons running and hiding like Saddam? Those were the facts until nato gave them hope. But be my guest go drum up irrelevant out dated posts. In there you will find a whole host of takes prior to the war beginning because of the mass uncertainty. Honestly, I did not think the USA would piss away 50 billion, a quarter of ukraines gdp. By doing so taking the world to the brink where a simple mistake could lead to global war.

On a side note I’m going to guess you guys who are all in on another WW are over 60 and still in the Cold War mindset. The libs here well are the libs and old man lib in charge so they will back him hell or high water. The rest of us are young maybe have kids we don’t want to see sent to die over two thugs killing each other. You guys have by now seen the videos of Ukrainians murdering pows. I bet you have a justification for that. Well I certainly have a reason. It’s because Ukraine and Russia are cut from the same cloth and neither have respect for life. Soviet tactics while madman zelensky tries to pull the world to global conflict. Soviets russian and Ukraine. You all have been duped to think differently.
As for the second half of your post, I'm 58. Yes, I remember the cold war and the Soviet Union very well. Putin is trying to reestablish as much of it as possible, starting with Ukraine. Allowing that to happen is what would drive the world to the brink of war, not this. I take exception to your characterization of Zelensky as a madman and a thug. You simply can't support either statement but it shines a light on your thought process.

As for your old posts being irrelevant. Sunshine, you're the one who arrogantly climbed up the mountain and shouted down at the rest of us that you've been right at every turn. You just said you were wrong in this post. You've been wrong in dozens more. They aren't irrelevant, they are empirical proof of just how wrong you've been.
 
What are you talking about? I think most Ukrainians want this over even if it means making concessions. Bc a subgroup of the country has the will as you say to fight this war does not mean there is a never ending line of willing fighters. Ukraine had to prevent men from leaving for crying out loud. And you saw as Russia bumbled it’s way through Ukraine until Ukraine was given the weapons and total nato support well I question whether they would have had it. Like I said. You’re digging up a pre invasion quote and want to put your spin on it. If nato had not intervened to the level they have no Ukrainians woulda said fk it. Life is more important than what our puppet masters want.
Spin away. That doesn't change a thing, it's simply your hindsight.
 
Which flip flop is this one? I'm getting confused. It sure sounds like you're disagreeing with yourself.

Signed,

Waiting With Amusement In Savannah
Don’t you have anything better to do with your life??? Lol. Your faction your little brotherhood wants war with Russia so much so that you have contributed to the using of the Ukrainian people. It’s clear. You guys are cut from the same Victoria nuland cloth. It’s a joke. It’s sinister and is not in compliance with anything wholesome or good. Russians aren’t being tossed out of the east. They are seen as liberators. That should tell you something about the Ukrainian regime and Russias claims of nazism. Crimea. There isn’t this massive clamoring by the people there to rejoin Ukraine, yet come hell or high water zelensky wants them back so he can cleanse out Russian culture.

You said Putin would be dead by now. I see nothing moving on that front and when Russia regroups as history has shown things will get real bad for zelenskys regime. The Ukrainian people 90% of them will accept whatever government they have. It’s that 10% who have worked in conjunction with nato to ethnically cleanse the country that have brought war to innocent people.
 
The fool me once shit. We have a lot of fools here. Vietnam, iraq haven’t you guys learned anything? How can you blindly support a government who has been lying to us in order to go to war for generations? It’s a legit question for what are seemingly mindless brainwashed populace. How many times are you gonna fall for this?
Apparently we'd all be under communism if you had your way. The only bad decision in there was Vietnam and Afghanistan. Ever since war came to tv, people have lost the courage to do what is necessary. It's ugly but fighting a war half-assed does nothing but get young men killed.
 
Don’t you have anything better to do with your life??? Lol. Your faction your little brotherhood wants war with Russia so much so that you have contributed to the using of the Ukrainian people. It’s clear. You guys are cut from the same Victoria nuland cloth. It’s a joke. It’s sinister and is not in compliance with anything wholesome or good. Russians aren’t being tossed out of the east. They are seen as liberators. That should tell you something about the Ukrainian regime and Russias claims of nazism. Crimea. There isn’t this massive clamoring by the people there to rejoin Ukraine, yet come hell or high water zelensky wants them back so he can cleanse out Russian culture.

You said Putin would be dead by now. I see nothing moving on that front and when Russia regroups as history has shown things will get real bad for zelenskys regime. The Ukrainian people 90% of them will accept whatever government they have. It’s that 10% who have worked in conjunction with nato to ethnically cleanse the country that have brought war to innocent people.
No, I'm bored at work. I have no interest in war with Russia. Your little brain simply can't understand the subtle difference. There is no nazism, you're the brainwashed one. You accept nearly every piece of propaganda that comes out of Russia. Liberators, hilarious. You're so wrong that you may as well type with your eyes closed.

As for Putin, I said he would be dead by Christmas. That's another 36 days away. At least be correct on what I've said.
 
Apparently we'd all be under communism if you had your way. The only bad decision in there was Vietnam and Afghanistan. Ever since war came to tv, people have lost the courage to do what is necessary. It's ugly but fighting a war half-assed does nothing but get young men killed.
Really? Destroying Iraq based on intel lies media lies lies from the admin wasn’t a mistake? You just aren’t a serious person. Not worth my time. War under false pretext is an unforgivable sin. I’m sorry but you just showed your ass.
 
No, I'm bored at work. I have no interest in war with Russia. Your little brain simply can't understand the subtle difference. There is no nazism, you're the brainwashed one. You accept nearly every piece of propaganda that comes out of Russia. Liberators, hilarious. You're so wrong that you may as well type with your eyes closed.

As for Putin, I said he would be dead by Christmas. That's another 36 days away. At least be correct on what I've said.
Go back to work. Nazism to the Russian is the ethnic cleansing you fail to recognize. You and your little group only look at this through your media brainwashed view. There was never a coup, never any impropriety by the Ukrainian government, no ethnic cleansing, never an elected president exiled. None of that shit happened in your world. it’s all documented it all happened. You think Ukraine is the good guys. I say they’re both shitty they both have soviet mentality. Let them fight it out keep the USA out of it. That’s why you bought this shit hook line and sinker. You believe there is a side. Neither side is right or has the moral high ground. That’s the difference between someone who has fallen victim to brainwashing and someone who thinks freely
 
It’s was pretty clear Russia was gonna run through all of Ukraine even with their problems until nato started arming the Ukrainians. As Ukraine was armed the demographics shifted again with mass numbers fleeing, many Ukrainians apathetic. You’re seeing a nato built Ukrainian military far different from when I made that post. The facts on the ground there change rapidly. Taking my post from prewar before nato stepped in to give them hope. Well do even remember the beginning? Zelensky and his goons running and hiding like Saddam? Those were the facts until nato gave them hope. But be my guest go drum up irrelevant out dated posts. In there you will find a whole host of takes prior to the war beginning because of the mass uncertainty. Honestly, I did not think the USA would piss away 50 billion, a quarter of ukraines gdp. By doing so taking the world to the brink where a simple mistake could lead to global war.

On a side note I’m going to guess you guys who are all in on another WW are over 60 and still in the Cold War mindset. The libs here well are the libs and old man lib in charge so they will back him hell or high water. The rest of us are young maybe have kids we don’t want to see sent to die over two thugs killing each other. You guys have by now seen the videos of Ukrainians murdering pows. I bet you have a justification for that. Well I certainly have a reason. It’s because Ukraine and Russia are cut from the same cloth and neither have respect for life. Soviet tactics while madman zelensky tries to pull the world to global conflict. Soviets russian and Ukraine. You all have been duped to think differently.


You nailed an essential truth there that should transcend age -

The United States has no reason to join the Eurasian conflict
 
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Really? Destroying Iraq based on intel lies media lies lies from the admin wasn’t a mistake? You just aren’t a serious person. Not worth my time. War under false pretext is an unforgivable sin. I’m sorry but you just showed your ass.
Believe as you wish. Just because wmd's weren't there when we got there doesn't mean they weren't there to begin with. The only reasonable explanation for Saddams stall tactics was the required time to move the weapons. Personally I think they were moved to Syria.

If they didn't exist, there was no reason for Saddam to tempt fate with the UN Security Council. Once again, I believe you to be gullible to propaganda.
Go back to work. Nazism to the Russian is the ethnic cleansing you fail to recognize. You and your little group only look at this through your media brainwashed view. There was never a coup, never any impropriety by the Ukrainian government, no ethnic cleansing, never an elected president exiled. None of that shit happened in your world. it’s all documented it all happened. You think Ukraine is the good guys. I say they’re both shitty they both have soviet mentality. Let them fight it out keep the USA out of it. That’s why you bought this shit hook line and sinker. You believe there is a side. Neither side is right or has the moral high ground. That’s the difference between someone who has fallen victim to brainwashing and someone who thinks freely
Lol
 
You nailed an essential truth there that should transcend age -

The United States has no reason to join the Eurasian conflict

Additionally , we are at a critical juncture historically regarding our military forces
They have been widely used and spent around the planet since the end of the Cold War

Personnel need regrouping
Supply chains need sustainment/investment and reevaluation

Get the GI and veteran suicide rates down
Fix our logistical outlook and stance regarding force projection & the use of certain alliances

Rest - invest in our hemisphere & nothing for NATO
Its hard to take you seriously when you make posts like this one.
 
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You nailed an essential truth there that should transcend age -

The United States has no reason to join the Eurasian conflict

Additionally , we are at a critical juncture historically regarding our military forces
They have been widely used and spent around the planet since the end of the Cold War

Personnel need regrouping
Supply chains need sustainment/investment and reevaluation

Get the GI and veteran suicide rates down
Fix our logistical outlook and stance regarding force projection & the use of certain alliances

Rest - invest in our hemisphere & nothing for NATO
Taiwan, you're on your own. Don't need none of your dam chips!!
 
Believe as you wish. Just because wmd's weren't there when we got there doesn't mean they weren't there to begin with. The only reasonable explanation for Saddams stall tactics was the required time to move the weapons. Personally I think they were moved to Syria.

If they didn't exist, there was no reason for Saddam to tempt fate with the UN Security Council. Once again, I believe you to be gullible to propaganda.

Lol
It wasn’t just wmd which were not there. I mean we had that country locked down and surveilled for 10 years prior. It was the false pretense that iraq was involved in 9/11. No one can take you seriously after this horrendous take. I haven’t met anyone in a long long time to try and defend our actions in Iraq. Wow
 
It wasn’t just wmd which were not there. I mean we had that country locked down and surveilled for 10 years prior. It was the false pretense that iraq was involved in 9/11. No one can take you seriously after this horrendous take. I haven’t met anyone in a long long time to try and defend our actions in Iraq. Wow
I never, ever claimed Iraq had anything to do with 9/11. Our actions in Iraq were supported by most. You're talking about your always perfect hindsight.
 
I never, ever claimed Iraq had anything to do with 9/11. Our actions in Iraq were supported by most. You're talking about your always perfect hindsight.
You said Iraq wasn’t a bad decision. In light of the fact the public was lied to the fn hell yeah it was. And it isn’t hindsight. It’s learning not to trust what the government tells you. That was my original point but you chose Iraq as a war of necessity.

This is what you said:

“Apparently we'd all be under communism if you had your way. The only bad decision in there was Vietnam and Afghanistan. Ever since war came to tv, people have lost the courage to do what is necessary. It's ugly but fighting a war half-assed does nothing but get young men killed.”

The courage? The courage to watch 10s of thousands lose life or limb over lies?
 
Its hard to take you seriously when you make posts like this one.


Lets revisit this soon -

If there's a chance Im saying something outlandishly wrong and dont know it - help me see what that is

The "zero funding for NATO is dead serious - urgent but excremental demobilization for ALL US NATO assignments -

Earmark & reallocate typical FY spending line items for all - now obsolete - NATO spending, troop garrisoning & selected non combat reconnaissance and other platforms ---->>> re-utilize all possible for hemispheric security and intelligence

Anywho - lets revisit sometime
 
Lets revisit this soon -

If there's a chance Im saying something outlandishly wrong and dont know it - help me see what that is

The "zero funding for NATO is dead serious - urgent but excremental demobilization for ALL US NATO assignments -

Earmark & reallocate typical FY spending line items for all - now obsolete - NATO spending, troop garrisoning & selected non combat reconnaissance and other platforms ---->>> re-utilize all possible for hemispheric security and intelligence

Anywho - lets revisit sometime

Best of luck with that guy. He’s a hard core war hawk. You aren’t changing Dick Cheney’s mind.


And Hitler had Jewish DNA
 
No, I'm bored at work. I have no interest in war with Russia. Your little brain simply can't understand the subtle difference. There is no nazism, you're the brainwashed one. You accept nearly every piece of propaganda that comes out of Russia. Liberators, hilarious. You're so wrong that you may as well type with your eyes closed.

As for Putin, I said he would be dead by Christmas. That's another 36 days away. At least be correct on what I've said.


It does seem like an environment unfortunately ripe for political assassination type activities ---- - hadn't really thought of that somehow --

But - i also think in some cases -- there would be circumstances where the successful ASN of a major political leader could be -- expertly obfuscated
 
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Best of luck with that guy. He’s a hard core war hawk. You aren’t changing Dick Cheney’s mind.


And Hitler had Jewish DNA
Hahahahahaha, what a putz. So you've changed your position to Hitler had Jewish DNA. That is at least possible and means absolutely nothing.

You're a clown
Disturbing Stephen King GIF
 
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You said Iraq wasn’t a bad decision. In light of the fact the public was lied to the fn hell yeah it was. And it isn’t hindsight. It’s learning not to trust what the government tells you. That was my original point but you chose Iraq as a war of necessity.

This is what you said:

“Apparently we'd all be under communism if you had your way. The only bad decision in there was Vietnam and Afghanistan. Ever since war came to tv, people have lost the courage to do what is necessary. It's ugly but fighting a war half-assed does nothing but get young men killed.”

The courage? The courage to watch 10s of thousands lose life or limb over lies?
Iraq wasn't a bad decision. You assume it was simply because the WMD's weren't there. Our invasion of Iraq didn't come from some president going cowboy. The invasion was supported, as a bipartisan measure, in Congress, with some amount of data to support it. It never had a single thing to do with 9/11. You amaze me in thinking you know better than the people who actually had access to information. You had access to nothing. Absolutely nothing.

By courage I mean killing who needs to be killed. Ever since Vietnam we combat war through the lens of what people might say about our actions. War is pretty simple, win. I do not and never will believe in the nonsense of rules for war. "They must be uniformed", great, so guerilla fighters can hide in plain sight. No, if you have good reason, kill them too. If the wuss's back home don't like it, remove the cameras. War has never been pretty and will never be pretty.

Vietnam and Afghanistan are prime examples of this. We didn't actually fight to win and that ends in a drawn out quagmire with unnecessary American deaths.
 
Iraq wasn't a bad decision. You assume it was simply because the WMD's weren't there. Our invasion of Iraq didn't come from some president going cowboy. The invasion was supported, as a bipartisan measure, in Congress, with some amount of data to support it. It never had a single thing to do with 9/11. You amaze me in thinking you know better than the people who actually had access to information. You had access to nothing. Absolutely nothing.

By courage I mean killing who needs to be killed. Ever since Vietnam we combat war through the lens of what people might say about our actions. War is pretty simple, win. I do not and never will believe in the nonsense of rules for war. "They must be uniformed", great, so guerilla fighters can hide in plain sight. No, if you have good reason, kill them too. If the wuss's back home don't like it, remove the cameras. War has never been pretty and will never be pretty.

Vietnam and Afghanistan are prime examples of this. We didn't actually fight to win and that ends in a drawn out quagmire with unnecessary American deaths.
Look I’ve made light of your one liners throughout this conflict but now that you showed your ass people like you are a real threat to peace. You are a danger. You are a war monger pure and simple. You’re completely brainwashed and have completely destroyed any credibility you may have had which wasn’t much. Dick Cheney pushed the narrative that Iraq was involved in 9/11. It was a vendetta war without a doubt that’s why we had to “go it alone” as bush would say. The bipartisanship of support for the war was based upon two false claims. 1. That Iraq possessed wmd and 2. Saddam had a direct connection to Mohammed Atta and Al Qaeda.

You want to come after me personally and say I knew nothing without knowing me? You don’t know who I know or what I know. Where I’ve been or what I’ve done. It doesn’t matter though. It’s not about me it’s about how you have continually pushed a one sided narrative in this case with every shred of evidence against your claims you still show ignorance and believe what has proven over and over to be false. That is some sort of sickness man.

Now if you had a legit claim such as Iraq was an ongoing war from 1991 to 2003 and we needed to finish the job ok. Or we needed to overthrow Saddam to strategically neutralize Iran by occupying countries bordering again ok. You didn’t you continued to push a patently false claim you still believe.

Why would anyone listen to what you have to say about this current conflict? It just goes to show the sickness at play and the desire for war. Your post was appalling and imo you should seek help.
 
Look I’ve made light of your one liners throughout this conflict but now that you showed your ass people like you are a real threat to peace. You are a danger. You are a war monger pure and simple. You’re completely brainwashed and have completely destroyed any credibility you may have had which wasn’t much. Dick Cheney pushed the narrative that Iraq was involved in 9/11. It was a vendetta war without a doubt that’s why we had to “go it alone” as bush would say. The bipartisanship of support for the war was based upon two false claims. 1. That Iraq possessed wmd and 2. Saddam had a direct connection to Mohammed Atta and Al Qaeda.

You want to come after me personally and say I knew nothing without knowing me? You don’t know who I know or what I know. Where I’ve been or what I’ve done. It doesn’t matter though. It’s not about me it’s about how you have continually pushed a one sided narrative in this case with every shred of evidence against your claims you still show ignorance and believe what has proven over and over to be false. That is some sort of sickness man.

Now if you had a legit claim such as Iraq was an ongoing war from 1991 to 2003 and we needed to finish the job ok. Or we needed to overthrow Saddam to strategically neutralize Iran by occupying countries bordering again ok. You didn’t you continued to push a patently false claim you still believe.

Why would anyone listen to what you have to say about this current conflict? It just goes to show the sickness at play and the desire for war. Your post was appalling and imo you should seek help.
Yes, you knew nothing. I stand by that.
Look I’ve made light of your one liners throughout this conflict but now that you showed your ass people like you are a real threat to peace. You are a danger. You are a war monger pure and simple. You’re completely brainwashed and have completely destroyed any credibility you may have had which wasn’t much. Dick Cheney pushed the narrative that Iraq was involved in 9/11. It was a vendetta war without a doubt that’s why we had to “go it alone” as bush would say. The bipartisanship of support for the war was based upon two false claims. 1. That Iraq possessed wmd and 2. Saddam had a direct connection to Mohammed Atta and Al Qaeda.

You want to come after me personally and say I knew nothing without knowing me? You don’t know who I know or what I know. Where I’ve been or what I’ve done. It doesn’t matter though. It’s not about me it’s about how you have continually pushed a one sided narrative in this case with every shred of evidence against your claims you still show ignorance and believe what has proven over and over to be false. That is some sort of sickness man.

Now if you had a legit claim such as Iraq was an ongoing war from 1991 to 2003 and we needed to finish the job ok. Or we needed to overthrow Saddam to strategically neutralize Iran by occupying countries bordering again ok. You didn’t you continued to push a patently false claim you still believe.

Why would anyone listen to what you have to say about this current conflict? It just goes to show the sickness at play and the desire for war. Your post was appalling and imo you should seek help.
Nowhere in the Iraq Resolution is mentioned the terrorists responsible for 9/11 other than some Al Qaeda members who were hiding in Iraq. That was not a primary reason for the invasion. Yes, I question what you knew. You have been wrong at nearly every turn but you expect me to accept what you're saying when what you're saying is demonstrably wrong? Not a chance. You, pal, are the threat to this once great country.


I don't give a rats ass what you think of me. I hope that is perfectly clear.
 
Look I’ve made light of your one liners throughout this conflict but now that you showed your ass people like you are a real threat to peace. You are a danger. You are a war monger pure and simple. You’re completely brainwashed and have completely destroyed any credibility you may have had which wasn’t much. Dick Cheney pushed the narrative that Iraq was involved in 9/11. It was a vendetta war without a doubt that’s why we had to “go it alone” as bush would say. The bipartisanship of support for the war was based upon two false claims. 1. That Iraq possessed wmd and 2. Saddam had a direct connection to Mohammed Atta and Al Qaeda.

You want to come after me personally and say I knew nothing without knowing me? You don’t know who I know or what I know. Where I’ve been or what I’ve done. It doesn’t matter though. It’s not about me it’s about how you have continually pushed a one sided narrative in this case with every shred of evidence against your claims you still show ignorance and believe what has proven over and over to be false. That is some sort of sickness man.

Now if you had a legit claim such as Iraq was an ongoing war from 1991 to 2003 and we needed to finish the job ok. Or we needed to overthrow Saddam to strategically neutralize Iran by occupying countries bordering again ok. You didn’t you continued to push a patently false claim you still believe.

Why would anyone listen to what you have to say about this current conflict? It just goes to show the sickness at play and the desire for war. Your post was appalling and imo you should seek help.
BTW, Ukraine recaptured more land today and destroyed a Russian base. The march goes on.
 
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How did a thread with 281 pages devolve into basically 2 guys arguing? Why don't you guys just get each other's phone numbers or emails or something?

You know who you are. Lol
 
Who cares dude. You are a war monger. You want death. You made yourself very clear. You do not look at things from any lens other than state run cnn. I’m done with you good riddance to ignore you go.
Hahaha, so now I can refute the nonsense you post and don't have to read your inane response. Win-win
 
Reports out of Kherson now confirming Orcs burning their own dead in a landfill near the city. Should be of no surprise given how little they value life.

Russian base hit today near Tokmak, railroad situated there. Read a lot of Chechen pigs are stationed there, hopefully many were eliminated
 
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