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Russia - Ukraine WAR Warning: Political Discussions

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This doesn’t directly support his post but it’s western media contradicting the ongoing narrative of the real economic impact on Russia as well as leverage Russia still possesses.

Certainly, the impact of sanctions was drummed up by many of the talking heads without understanding that they often take time, and also there's the fact that some of the sanctions aren't even fully implemented yet. While one objective of sanctions is obviously to stop the behavior that caused them to be put in place, that often doesn't happen.

Another objective of sanctions is to reduce the set of choices available to the state actor that's on the receiving end. This always happens, to varying degrees, and the level of sanctions levied against Russia are some of the most severe we've seen. The Putin regime is definitely having to make some hard choices, and the economic outlook is pretty grim (economic contractions for this year and the next, at least). It's not great in the "West" either, but that's due in large part to poor decision-making by the political leadership. I'll begrudge the Putin regime some credit, they obviously had thought about how to cope with sanctions and took steps quickly. But, they've had to make trade-offs; for instance, shoring up the ruble took resources away from other things.

Anyway, just my $0.02. Cheers.
 
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Certainly, the impact of sanctions was drummed up by many of the talking heads without understanding that they often take time, and also there's the fact that some of the sanctions are even fully implemented yet. While one objective of sanctions is obviously to stop the behavior that caused them to be put in place, that often doesn't happen.

Another objective of sanctions is to reduce the set of choices available to the state actor that's on the receiving end. This always happens, to varying degrees, and the level of sanctions levied against Russia are some of the most severe we've seen. The Putin regime is definitely having to make some hard choices, and the economic outlook is pretty grim (economic contractions for this year and the next, at least). It's not great in the "West" either, but that's due in large part to poor decision-making by the political leadership. I'll begrudge the Putin regime some credit, they obviously had thought about how to cope with sanctions and took steps quickly. But, they've had to make trade-offs; for instance, shoring up the ruble took resources away from other things.

Anyway, just my $0.02. Cheers.
McDonalds left Russia. Now ask which US banks left Russia.
 
None that I'm aware of but your question is too simplistic. Care to answer why they are still there?
I thought we had an all-out sanction package against Russia...?

Jamie Dimon just testified before congress and was asked if he divested all Russia gas stocks. He said "no but we were told by the Treasury dept"... and was cut off and told not to expound on a yes or no question and he wasn't allowed to even speak without just saying yes or no. LOl. Russia gas exports are up. The only people being truly hurt are the EU and USA. The bankers are still making money in Russia.
 
I thought we had an all-out sanction package against Russia...?

Jamie Dimon just testified before congress and was asked if he divested all Russia gas stocks. He said "no but we were told by the Treasury dept"... and was cut off and told not to expound on a yes or no question and he wasn't allowed to even speak without just saying yes or no. LOl. Russia gas exports are up. The only people being truly hurt are the EU and USA. The bankers are still making money in Russia.
This isn't new and banks aren't McDonald's. Most functions of the banks in Russia have been stopped. No, we don't have 100% sanctions on Russia. We never did. I'm sure he was about to discuss something classified and was stopped.

You're inferring deliberate harm to the EU and US while not harming Russia. That's absurd. Just as absurd as thinking banking is as simple as a retail store where you can simply lock the doors and walk away.
 
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This is going to get a very high body count over the next month or 2. That area is dug in on both sides and both sides are pumping in people.
The scary thing is if Putin doesn’t blink an eye at 100000 casualties then what’s 1million? 2 million? Or all out war with europe.
 
It's not like Zelensky hasn't lost 100000 and 300000 wounded. Neither seem willing to blink.
If they will sacrifice those numbers this isn’t ending anytime soon it’s going to escalate. And the Kherson pull out after evacuating the city concerns me what might happen there. That video JL link btw isn’t Kherson nor is it within the last couple months. Probably Kharkiv
 
If they will sacrifice those numbers this isn’t ending anytime soon it’s going to escalate. And the Kherson pull out after evacuating the city concerns me what might happen there. That video JL link btw isn’t Kherson nor is it within the last couple months. Probably Kharkiv
Russia held a press conference today saying they are leaving the west side of Kherson and are going to defend the east side. Ukraine is debating trying to attack while Russia flees across the Dnipro River but fear its a trap. Both sides are putting more men in the area. Russia tried one offensive north of Kherson but were stopped and it supposedly had high body counts on both sides. People are guessing that is why they are pulling back here but eventually they are going at it again. If the body count was as bad as they say in that small offensive in a no name town then a battle here is going to have deaths in the 10's of thousands. The lay of the land and the wide river is going to be hell.
 
Russia held a press conference today saying they are leaving the west side of Kherson and are going to defend the east side. Ukraine is debating trying to attack while Russia flees across the Dnipro River but fear its a trap. Both sides are putting more men in the area. Russia tried one offensive north of Kherson but were stopped and it supposedly had high body counts on both sides. People are guessing that is why they are pulling back here but eventually they are going at it again. If the body count was as bad as they say in that small offensive in a no name town then a battle here is going to have deaths in the 10's of thousands. The lay of the land and the wide river is going to be hell.
I’m sure Kherson is full of mines and other lethal measures. Hell they coulda trucked in a couple foabs in there.
 
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Putin has what he stated as his prewar goal. Now their gonna defend it like it’s Russia which is what the Russian military is built for. Maybe they make the push again westward. Idk but if Ukraine tries to push eastward Russia will probably use all means of defense. This is the most dangerous phase of the war
 
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Putin has what he stated as his prewar goal. Now their gonna defend it like it’s Russia which is what the Russian military is built for. Maybe they make the push again westward. Idk but if Ukraine tries to push eastward Russia will probably use all means of defense. This is the most dangerous phase of the war
Lmao! Russia is in full retreat in the south and losing thousands of troops. Putin has em right where he wants em! The Russian military is built for raping and stealing toilets.
 
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Putin has what he stated as his prewar goal. Now their gonna defend it like it’s Russia which is what the Russian military is built for. Maybe they make the push again westward. Idk but if Ukraine tries to push eastward Russia will probably use all means of defense. This is the most dangerous phase of the war
Running? Yes, I finally agree with you. That is what the Russian army is built for.
 
"The Commerce Department said Thursday it has reclassified Russia as a nonmarket country from a market economy, a move aimed at further reducing bilateral trade and isolating Russia amid its war in Ukraine.

The department said the decision follows significant increases in Moscow’s intervention in economic activities since last year that have made its economy distorted and unpredictable, including in currency markets, labor relations and foreign investments."
 
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Terrible scene in Kherson. Many people reached the point of tears after Russia abandoned them to Ukraine forces.

 
I’m sure Kherson is full of mines and other lethal measures. Hell they coulda trucked in a couple foabs in there.
Can you report on how many mines have been found in Kherson by the Ukrainians? You seem to have all the details I'm not privy to. Thanks.
 
Can you report on how many mines have been found in Kherson by the Ukrainians? You seem to have all the details I'm not privy to. Thanks.
If you don’t think the Russians left mines and other measures behind well let me from now on refer to you as fetterman.

I think those duck and cover drills our government made you do to create a maleable brainwashable mind I think you have some serious trauma still fetterman
 
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If you don’t think the Russians left mines and other measures behind well let me from now on refer to you as fetterman.

I think those duck and cover drills our government made you do to create a maleable brainwashable mind I think you have some serious trauma still fetterman
You're the king of wringing your hands while you practice duck and cover. What are you babbling about you
Danny Devito Lol GIF by The Animal Crackers Movie
 
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Putin has what he stated as his prewar goal. Now their gonna defend it like it’s Russia which is what the Russian military is built for. Maybe they make the push again westward. Idk but if Ukraine tries to push eastward Russia will probably use all means of defense. This is the most dangerous phase of the war
Thinking about this, what does a Putin goal statement have to do with anything, particularly his actions? He's totally, or even largely, believable and trustworthy?
 
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If you don’t think the Russians left mines and other measures behind well let me from now on refer to you as fetterman.

I think those duck and cover drills our government made you do to create a maleable brainwashable mind I think you have some serious trauma still fetterman
I asked how many, not whether. Have you heard the number of Ukraine casualties from mines/whatever since they entered Kherson? I haven't heard of any.

Seriously, you put yourself out as a Ukraine expert or at least highly knowledgeable of it, and frankly, you've near totally wrong.
 
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I asked how many, not whether. Have you heard the number of Ukraine casualties from mines/whatever since they entered Kherson? I haven't heard of any.

Seriously, you put yourself out as a Ukraine expert or at least highly knowledgeable of it, and frankly, you've near totally wrong.
I made an assertion you nimrod. I didn’t state something as fact or give some personal experience. It would seem to stand logic. And no you argued Russia wouldn’t go. I told you before they went what they wanted which is in Russian control and separatist hands now being defended. Ukraine is trying to get it back. Russia main military strength is defense of their territory. Ukraine will not be successful in retaking these regions and if western countries push weapons that will threaten what Putin has declared as russia then it will be all bets off it’s going to escalate to what you want. You think Ukraine has won the war or is winning. They are losing territory and many many thousands of soldiers. I guess preventing the loss of Kyiv is winning.
 
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