Russia - Ukraine WAR Warning: Political Discussions

[CastleRubric]

Decent link detailing Soros’ history of working to undermine National Sovereignty and replacing it with centralized Globalized institutions

There’s a good section in there showing how he had plans to reinvent Russia after the fall of the USSR

The Guardian

In Soros’s opinion, the only way to save capitalism from itself was to establish a “global system of political decision-making” that heavily regulated international finance. Yet as early as 1998, Soros acknowledged that the US was the primary opponent of global institutions


In his 1990 book Opening the Soviet System, Soros wrote that he believed his foundation had helped “demolish the monopoly of dogma [in Hungary] by making an alternate source of financing available for cultural and social activities”,

 

[CastleRubric]

The International Renaissance Foundation is one of Soros’ NGOs funneling enormous amounts of money and resources into ukraine in order to remake the country into a western “neo liberal” state -

frankly i’m not 100% sure what “neo liberal” means - but i believe i get the gist
So does Russia

The IRF website (mostly in Russian) - details how :

Over the period from 1990 to 2010 the International Renaissance Foundation provided more than $100 million in support to numerous Ukrainian non-government organizations (NGOs), community groups, academic and cultural institutions, publishing houses, etc.

IRF

 

[CastleRubric]

So - for what it’s worth - anyone supporting the current “defense of ukraine- from Russia...” — is ultimately supporting George Soros and his megalomaniacal attempt to remake the world in his twisted image of global economic institutions and governance -

There is more that could be said- maybe i’ll post more on the weapons thing later

Consider the history here -

 

[CastleRubric]

PS - read the Minsk Agreement

 

[Girthang]

This is nut-cutting time. You really doing this?

Said the neo-nazi

 

[berniecarbo]

So - for what it’s worth - anyone supporting the current “defense of ukraine- from Russia...” — is ultimately supporting George Soros and his megalomaniacal attempt to grotesquely remake the world in his twisted image of global economic institutions and governance -

There is more that could be said- maybe i’ll post more on the weapons thing later

Consider the history here -

Even if there were no other reasons, Soros and 10% for the big guy would give me pause. "Maybe" there are less evil, but there are no good guys in this group of "leaders".

 

[CastleRubric]

Even if there were no other reasons, Soros and 10% for the big guy would give me pause. "Maybe" there are less evil, but there are no good guys in this group of "leaders".

Regular people of nearly all creeds and cultures are being used and divided against one another - and lobotomized by fear —- by Soros and others like him (“The Good Club” et al) — while they reframe and reinvent world economics and make local government accountable to its ppl obsolete

there’s more - but let’s focus on Soros for now

gotta shower and get to work
more later

wish y’all well — ALL YALL

 

[catlanta33]

U.S. to Aid Ukraine in Countering Bioweapons


By Jo Warrick
August 30, 2005
The United States and Ukraine agreed yesterday to work jointly to prevent the spread of biological weapons, signing a pact that clears the way for Ukraine's government to receive U.S. aid to improve security at facilities where dangerous microbes are kept.
The agreement, the result of more than a year of negotiations, was announced by Sens. Richard G. Lugar (R-Ind.) and Barack Obama (D-Ill.) during a visit to the Ukrainian capital, Kiev. The senators credited Ukraine's reformist leaders, ushered into power by last fall's Orange Revolution, with breaking bureaucratic resistance to the pact.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/arch...weapons/72059ed1-90ca-4381-ac6f-10f4e205f09e/

 

[JumperJack]

99% of the posters in this thread supporting sovereign Ukraine; the other three are sitting here, trying to make Ukraine out to be the bad guy. This is nut-cutting time. You really doing this?

Shouldn’t your question be: is this true?

Shouldn’t your next question be: how can we know the truth when we just found out that our media lied about a laptop to make sure a POTUS was elected, who has obvious and unethical ties to Ukraine?

 

[vhcat70]

It's from Reuters. Tell me why they're better. lol

Slovakia starts deploying Patriot air defence system

The Patriot air defence system has started arriving in Slovakia from NATO partner countries and the deployment will continue in the coming days, Slovakia's defence minister said on Sunday.

www.reuters.com

Deploying a system isn't supporting U or firing into U. I mean nukes have been deployed facing R for decades. Net, don't see the big deal unless they are moved into U.

 

[vhcat70]

I wouldn’t say Ukraine is a good guy but they aren’t the bad guy.

I'll say the guy unjustifiably attacked is the good guy, Nazis & all.

 

[vhcat70]

Here’s an article on the 2018 Schism that emerged within the Orthodox Christian Church in Ukraine

First time seeing/citing this source so i can’t vouch for their worldview or reputation

Orthodox Journalists Link

But they do seem to cover the salient points supporting the western / US (State Dept) origins of the church schism

This event went largely ignored i. US media but it’s quite important to understand whether or not the US/West actually did support or cause the event —

There are other good sources out there that documented this - search around and think about it

This would be viewed as another egregious incursion/attack on Russian culture fm the West if the State Dept ties were ultimately a driver (i believe they absolutely were)

Russia can view it however they want. Doesn't justify war. F Russia.

 

[vhcat70]

So - for what it’s worth - anyone supporting the current “defense of ukraine- from Russia...” — is ultimately supporting George Soros and his megalomaniacal attempt to remake the world in his twisted image of global economic institutions and governance

That's one possible conclusion. Another is that U shouldn't have been attacked by R regardless of what George Soros wants.

 

[CastleRubric]

Russia can view it however they want. Doesn't justify war. F Russia.

i agree that war isn’t a desirable outcome here

 

[JumperJack]

I'll say the guy unjustifiably attacked is the good guy, Nazis & all.

Nazis and all?

 

[CastleRubric]

That's one possible conclusion. Another is that U shouldn't have been attacked by R regardless of what George Soros wants.

Unless - Russia has good reason to believe they’re in the cross hairs next right ?

one thing we should easily agree on - we’ve witnessed multiple color revolutions and orchestrated govt coups around the world in succession going back to. roughly the early mid 2000s

iraq - libya - egypt - tunisia - syria was certainly on the list - iran on deck

ukraine had the maiden revolution or whatever it was called — and it was externally supported and influenced

so maybe russia decided not to wait until the craziness and cultural enhancements showed up in moscow

maybe i’ve misjudged that entirely and putin is JUST as much of a globalist stooge as trudeau and is just playing his part - ?

well never really know that -

PS - reports of houthi rebels launching a barrage of missile attacks on saudi refinery targets ?

hard to tell if this does anything other than justify $7.89/gallon gas

Rebels Attack

 

[Girthang]

Here’s an article on the 2018 Schism that emerged within the Orthodox Christian Church in Ukraine

First time seeing/citing this source so i can’t vouch for their worldview or reputation

Orthodox Journalists Link

But they do seem to cover the salient points supporting the western / US (State Dept) origins of the church schism

This event went largely ignored i. US media but it’s quite important to understand whether or not the US/West actually did support or cause the event —

There are other good sources out there that documented this - search around and think about it

This would be viewed as another egregious incursion/attack on Russian culture fm the West if the State Dept ties were ultimately a driver (i believe they absolutely were)

Thank you for the link. I posted something about this a week or two ago, but didn't have any sources to cite. Just knew it was a big deal to people in the region and to Putin personally.

 

[AustinTXCat]

Close call.

 

[Girthang]

Jameslee posted drivel about the “31 senators” who voted no on more money to Ukraine. Here is where that money goes…. Good job Jameslee, keep up with the corruption

Vultures of a feather

 

[Girthang]

So - for what it’s worth - anyone supporting the current “defense of ukraine- from Russia...” — is ultimately supporting George Soros and his megalomaniacal attempt to remake the world in his twisted image of global economic institutions and governance -

There is more that could be said- maybe i’ll post more on the weapons thing later

Consider the history here -

What's important to note is that they don't care.

People don't care that a WW2 Nazi-assisting Jewish man that described that time period in his life, when he helped Hitler's men confiscate the property of his people, as the best years of his life. They don't care that he is responsible for so many deaths and the plunder from those deaths. They just care that he supports the killing of babies and (while it suits his destablization) their socio-babble. The left cares about their gov welfare, transism, and abortion above all else. A not so distant 2nd is their hatred of those of faith and morals.

They love the amoral. Clinton, Obama, Biden.... RINOs. These are their people morally speaking. What sucks is that they leave hard-working, moral people that just aren't true conservatives no other voice, just like the RINOs leave the right no voice. The independents and moderates are the majority, but just don't know it because of the propaganda of the party two system.

 

[Girthang]

Nazis and all?

Right from the other neo-nazi's mouth. They'd have been sending money to Hitler during WW2, were they able.

 

[Girthang]

U.S. to Aid Ukraine in Countering Bioweapons


By Jo Warrick
August 30, 2005
The United States and Ukraine agreed yesterday to work jointly to prevent the spread of biological weapons, signing a pact that clears the way for Ukraine's government to receive U.S. aid to improve security at facilities where dangerous microbes are kept.
The agreement, the result of more than a year of negotiations, was announced by Sens. Richard G. Lugar (R-Ind.) and Barack Obama (D-Ill.) during a visit to the Ukrainian capital, Kiev. The senators credited Ukraine's reformist leaders, ushered into power by last fall's Orange Revolution, with breaking bureaucratic resistance to the pact.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/arch...weapons/72059ed1-90ca-4381-ac6f-10f4e205f09e/

Oops

 

[CastleRubric]

Thank you for the link. I posted something about this a week or two ago, but didn't have any sources to cite. Just knew it was a big deal to people in the region and to Putin personally.

to a wider swath of Russian people as well -

i do suggest reading pre-soviet literature from Doestoyevsy , Turgenev and Chekhov


as opposed to bars getting rid of russian vodka and our ppl being encouraged to do stereotypically shallow american things for a reaction. — commit yourself to exploring one small niche of russian history or literature ....

it’s an exercise in diversity right ?

lighting a candle as opposed to joining the chorus of orchestrated howling at the moon

change like this has to be at OUR level
our political class has largely sold us out
and many of our institutions are failing

work at the VERY local level and do One Little Thing differently to make something better

 

[JumperJack]

Right from the other neo-nazi's mouth. They'd have been sending money to Hitler during WW2, were they able.

vh doesn’t mean that I don’t believe.

I don’t even know if this Azov battalion crap is real. That’s how low we’ve fallen with media trust.

 

[CastleRubric]

So i have some. new ideas for political posts

One is to establish sound definitions for words like “Nazi” and “Socialist” and perhaps ...”Linebeard” while we’re at it

i also plan to lay out the thesis and components of my book project that stalled before i left Tucson ...i’d like some interaction from y’all on that and see where it goes

 

[Girthang]

to a wider swath of Russian people as well -

i do suggest reading pre-soviet literature from Doestoyevsy , Turgenev and Chekhov (i never got around to the others and Solzhenitsyn is political and not applicable to what i’m trying to say here)


as opposed to bars getting rid of russian vodka and our ppl being encouraged to do stereotypically shallow american things for a reaction. — commit yourself to exploring one small niche of russian history or literature ....

it’s an exercise in diversity right ?

lighting a candle as opposed to joining the chorus of orchestrated howling at the moon

change like this has to be at OUR level
our political class has largely sold us out
and many of our institutions are failing

work at the VERY local level and do One Little Thing differently to make something better

Read those authors in high school and college during lit and historical studies.

 

[Girthang]

So i have some. new ideas for political posts

One is to establish sound definitions for words like “Nazi” and “Socialist” and perhaps ...”Linebeard” while we’re at it

i also plan to lay out the thesis and components of my book project that stalled before i left Tucson ...i’d like some interaction from y’all on that and see where it goes

Be glad to do it. Helped more than 3 authors finish, edit, or publish their books in the past, through open critique as well. Genres include philosophy, religion, history, sports, and medical.

 

[AustinTXCat]

Interesting. Hopefully this equipment makes a difference.

 

[CastleRubric]

Be glad to do it. Helped more than 3 authors finish, edit, or publish their books in the past, through open critique as well. Genres include philosophy, religion, history, sports, and medical.

Outstanding!

so this is a political science book that takes the approach of basing all assertions on historical facts framed within an academic methodology that i learned from the CDC ppl and their peer review publication process -

that’s the gist anyway

what makes it different is that there’s no argument over political party , no attempt to leverage fear , and an honest approach to presenting the hypothesis that’s transparent and damn near universal in terms of objectivity

i even added a “what can you DO about any of this “ section at the end so no one should be walking away feeling powerless or even more oppressed than they already are

i kick started a literature review to support the idea of the whole project and i’ve version - controlled my outline for the whole thing. ....

actual writing got done and i’ve produced probably 80 some pages of meat with an outline that suggests 150-200 more pages to go

the title is a double entendre for an forgotten historical event that occurred in the US in the 20s

i think i’ve really got something here

So far i don’t see ANYONE saying what this book intends to say -

think about whether you’d eventually be comforted meeting for coffee to review the thing one day - i live in winchester but also spend a lot of time in claiborne co, TN

very grateful you offered to help !

 

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[AustinTXCat]

Unsure if true, but seemingly more in line with US estimates.

 

[CastleRubric]

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does anonymous have any data dumps that will blow the established political class away and leverage power and influence to regular people?

or ...maybe a good joke or two

 

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[Wildcats1st]

Have any of you ever read this?

Article by Vladimir Putin ”On the Historical Unity of Russians and Ukrainians“

en.kremlin.ru

 

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