Rupp Rafters NBA Legends GM Draft Round 10 Aike OTC
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I don't think you could ever win that argument but he was a great player.
No, in the original list, before you set the draft order, HotelBlue was listed right after UKNorse. I mistakenly looked at that list when I tagged HotelBlue.
Gotcha. I thought maybe I flip-flopped gossie and miracle7s when I was listing them by giving them the wrong number.
Sorry about that.
I'll let you pick ahead of him in the second round to balance it out.
(seriously, my bad. Sorry)
haha, sorry. I was pleased as Punch he was there at 10. He's easily a top 5-7 player I think by any metric.
My second choice after Timmy was the Dream Shake. Very similar players with excellent footwork on the block, Hakeem was a little better defensively. The Dream is an all-time top-20 scorer and rebounder, and the #1 all-time for blocks.
If Jordan would have gotten sidelined earlier for gambling I think Olajuwon would have a few more titles as well.
If Jordan would have gotten sidelined earlier for gambling I think Olajuwon would have a few more titles as well.
I disagree with that. But he may be as valuable as Magic, Bird, KAJ in this format.
I’ll give you top 10, but easily top 5-7 is pushing it. Worthy of debate, sure.
My second choice after Timmy was the Dream Shake. Very similar players with excellent footwork on the block, Hakeem was a little better defensively. The Dream is an all-time top-20 scorer and rebounder, and the #1 all-time for blocks.
If Jordan would have gotten sidelined earlier for gambling I think Olajuwon would have a few more titles as well.
I think Hakeem is the better player between he and Duncan. Better career for Timmy.
If Hakeem had been part of the Spurs organization during the last 25 years, we'd look at him a lot differently.
Duncan is great too. I wonder how recently retired guys will be viewed by voters. Are they stuck between current recency bias and nostalgia or do we appreciate them already?
Duncan is great too. I wonder how recently retired guys will be viewed by voters. Are they stuck between current recency bias and nostalgia or do we appreciate them already?
Nice pick, but how would he have done better if Jordan went down? Jordan was in the east and Hakeem never lost to the bulls.My second choice after Timmy was the Dream Shake. Very similar players with excellent footwork on the block, Hakeem was a little better defensively. The Dream is an all-time top-20 scorer and rebounder, and the #1 all-time for blocks.
If Jordan would have gotten sidelined earlier for gambling I think Olajuwon would have a few more titles as well.
You could play Bird at PG or C if you like. It's all up to you and how you want to structure your roster.
It's interesting although not surprising that 6 of the top-11 picks so far are Centers (one F/C).
You can play Bird wherever you want if you can sell it to the voters.
I agree, and it's why I was afraid I'd *have* to take LeBron at 2.
I assumed Kareem would go first. I absolutely wanted to go Center with my first pick and I've given Wilt too much grief over the years, plus I couldn't pass on LeBron because he's one of the 2-3 best players of all time.
I was afraid I'd be starting Jamal Magloire if I took LeBron, because historically, unless your team had Michael Jordan on it, a dominant center was the key to a dynasty.
We'll see if voters are swayed by the current small ball trend or if the giants still reign.
Shh. I can't if everyone's onto me. Someone's gonna grab Mark Madsen and the whole thing is shot.
For my purposes I hope the voters like the more mobile and multi-dimensional all-time centers. And I hope they like gifs.
I was sure that either Duncan or Hakeem would fall to me, but nonetheless here I am. I think this is a point in the draft where we start to go down a tier. So my selection is one of the most underrated players in NBA history IMO, Moses Malone. Also I need a big to somewhat match up with everyone else lol.
@Pizza Slice youre OTC
@Pizza Slice youre OTC
I think I'm higher on Hakeem than most, but I don't understand why others aren't. I'd take him over Bill Russell.
Good pick. I was curious how far he'd fall, because you're right, he's completely underrated somehow.
I would defend Bill Russell as a top-5 NBA player all-time until my dying breath. But his stats suggest he was more of a rich man's Ben Wallace. Lots of titles tho.
He was absolutely a rich man's Ben Wallace in the right place at the right time. I think he's top 15 for defense and rebounding alone, but a 6'9 center shooting 40% from the field always jumps out to me.
I know I'm in the minority, but I think Hakeem was better. Guys in this stratosphere have to be two-way legends.
Eh, twice a champ in college, 5 time MVP in the league to go with all those titles. Ben Wallace? I’m all for trash talk but come on man.
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Yeap. People don’t value defense like they should. He was the best ever on D and obviously played winning basketball. He should be penalized slightly due to his offense, but not at the rate some here are.Eh, twice a champ in college, 5 time MVP in the league to go with all those titles. Ben Wallace? I’m all for trash talk but come on man.
I think Malone fell Victim to playing in the same timeframe as the best big man of all time. Even if Kareem’s best years were before Moses really got going. He was overshadowed by Kareem and rightly so. Even with how great a player he was he really only gets the secondary praise.
I generally will put Russell #3 all time. But if you compare their stats and just their stats they are similar players. Make an argument for him based on scoring, rebounds, shooting percentages. It's difficult to do.Eh, twice a champ in college, 5 time MVP in the league to go with all those titles. Ben Wallace? I’m all for trash talk but come on man.
Russell obviously had a certain je ne sais quoi that puts him in a different stratosphere. He was a winner. The best to winner to ever play the game.
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Again, how many rounds we going? Also, can we get a breakdown after each round? That way everyone knows show is and who isn't off the board.
@Cowtown Cat. Do you not see the stuff on page 1 from Gonzo? It goes over everything and is constantly updated
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