I mean the player pool to choose from? What players are excluded?
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I mean the player pool to choose from? What players are excluded?
The only player excluded is MJ. You can pick any other player that has ever played in the NBAI mean the player pool to choose from? What players are excluded?
I’m about to pick for him, lolI think he's overwhelmed by choice.
Nice pick. And you’re good, man!Sorry, guys, my phone here is a POS. Was trying to look up players. Also, my Dad called. My bad.
It was between Larry and Bill for me. Both good choices, as was Kobe. Larry was my goal to begin, however.Damn...I thought Larry was going to fall to me after the Kobe pick...
I'll go with Bill Russell...
I was down to Bill and Oscar. Damn, I didn't even think about Kobe.It was between Larry and Bill for me. Both good choices, as was Kobe. Larry was my goal to begin, however.
Kobe was gonna be my pick had Larry and Bill been gone. Somehow both fell to number 7I was down to Bill and Oscar. Damn, I didn't even think about Kobe.
Larry and Magic...I really wanted one of those 2I actually considered Larry and Bill, which was sacrilege for me as a Laker fan, but at the end of the day, Magic was too good to pass up.
And while I love Kobe, haters come out of the woodwork to vote against him. Not my first rodeo.
Kobe was who I would have liked in that 7-8 range of a draft where Michael Jordan doesn't exist. He probably doesn't rank that high all-time, but the positional value is nice if you can convince people not to hate him.
Just draft Jodie Meeks as his backup and you're golden.
@GonzoCat90 - you know we’re not supposed to discuss players who haven’t been drafted yet. You’ve ruined this for Jodie Meeks fans.
I was doing the one track mind thing there. I was thinking of old school players first, for some reason.Kobe was gonna be my pick had Larry and Bill been gone. Somehow both fell to number 7
Magic is the better player to copy/paste into today's game. That's not necessarily the objective, but it will be part of voting regardless of how anyone tries to frame their arguments for their team.I actually considered Larry and Bill, which was sacrilege for me as a Laker fan, but at the end of the day, Magic was too good to pass up.
And while I love Kobe, haters come out of the woodwork to vote against him. Not my first rodeo.
Today’s game has ZERO to do with this draft, although prime Bird would thrive just as much as Magic. Birds shooting ability with the way the game is called today would be unfair. Both would be top 5 players in any era we’ve had to date.Magic is the better player to copy/paste into today's game. That's not necessarily the objective, but it will be part of voting regardless of how anyone tries to frame their arguments for their team.
Magic is the better player to copy/paste into today's game. That's not necessarily the objective, but it will be part of voting regardless of how anyone tries to frame their arguments for their team.
I think that's true, which is why I'm glad Kareem was skilled and mobile and long. He'd be even better today.
If that cat was sinking sky hooks from 18 feet, it's not outrageous to think he'd have been a perimeter threat too in the current NBA.
Today’s game has ZERO to do with this draft, although prime Bird would thrive just as much as Magic. Birds shooting ability with the way the game is called today would be unfair. Both would be top 5 players in any era we’ve had to date.
Believe what you want.Today’s game has ZERO to do with this draft, although prime Bird would thrive just as much as Magic. Birds shooting ability with the way the game is called today would be unfair. Both would be top 5 players in any era we’ve had to date.
I agree with you. I never said they wouldn’t vote that way, there will be biases and everything else that affects the voting. My point is that it shouldn’t as it was not part of the criteria. Also, I just believe Bird scores easier without defenders with their hands all over him.Voter perception has everything to do with this draft, so who’s to say how much they consider today’s game?
And Bird would have been just fine today. He was truly great. But I don’t think his shooting would have been demonstrably better. I think the way the game is called today helps out little guy shooters more than it would a guy like Bird.
All due respect, but I don’t think that ever would have been Kareem’s game. He wasn’t going to get too far away from the basket, where he could also affect the game with defense and rebounding.
He’s been dismissive of guys like (can’t name him because not drafted yet) for being primarily perimeter oriented 7 footers.
I agree with you. I never said they wouldn’t vote that way, there will be biases and everything else that affects the voting. My point is that it shouldn’t as it was not part of the criteria. Also, I just believe Bird scores easier without defenders with their hands all over him.
We'll never know for sure, but you're approaching it from the assumption that his mindset wouldn't be different if he had played in a different time. For much of his career there was no three point line, so shooting from further away wasn't rewarded or strategic.
He has said himself that the skyhook isn't a "cool" shot but its effectiveness allowed him to be the all-time leading scorer and he doesn't know why more guys won't use it. It isn't a huge jump to believe a guy with that approach, growing up in a time where big guys can shoot from 3, would have utilized the shot worth the most points.
Regardless, my point was that he clearly had the skill to be a great shooter based on what he already demonstrated in a concrete way. Some of this debate will be hypothetical projection across eras and things like that, but I think his skillset is more tangible than other points about other players.
tl;dr he could do it but didn't and that's different than not doing it because you can't or it wasn't invented yet.
Pretty sure @miracle7s is on the clock.... hotelblue pick was 6th...