Ranking the overall strength of SEC East programs
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So we only beat a bunch of nobodies and came VERY close to beating Thug U? So what does that say?
But you didn’t. And that offense wasn’t very effective. 2 TDs with over 40 minutes of possession.
Of course it wasn't, dummy, we went through about four QBs. If the offense was so ineffective why did it control the ball so much?
Do you all try to be irritating or does it just come naturally?
You wanna be ut football fans are still here? Yeah, your pitiful that you can’t stay on your own board ,and talk ut championships in football! Wait a minute, you’ve got one ,but act like your Alabama,but only takes a few minutes to discuss the one. Might want to move on to the Alabama board where they can teach you how to become the powerhouse ,you think you are. Go on over and convince them what a rising championship caliber SEC football power you are! If they don’t let you stay long,move on over to the Florida site ,I’m sure they could look forward to that discussion!
My reply to this is 2 things : 1) you, and others seem to be responding quite well to our conversations, I mean the thread would die if ky fans would also quit responding. 2) you raise a good point about going to bama's site ; it would be much like uk basketball fans, going over to say duke's site - since uk has "only won one " championship since 98 ( the same year ut did in it football) BUT according to posters on here ky are THE premeire basketball program in college. I know Duke has won 2 titles within 7-8 years. Point is well taken though, this thread has run its course
What year is it? I thought we were on lockdown in 2020, not 1998 when Tennessee's football program last wasnt total dogshit.
Lol no ones claiming Tennessee is elite right now. We just said that we’re a stronger program than UK which was the point of this post.
I think most of our posters agree with that due to uks lack of head to head wins against ut. But if the series had been around .500 the last 10 years I would give uk the spot above ut.
UK ran 71 plays in that game for 327 total yds. That averages out to around 4.6 ypp, which is not really very efficient. I would say that certainly did a good job of keeping the ball out of the UT offense's hands, but UT was much more effective with the ball when it did have it, running 45 plays for 298 yds, which averages out to around 6.6 ypp, which is much more effective.
I thought the difference was that the UT defense never allowed either Bowden or one of the UK RBs to break any long runs to the house. UK had the one TD run for about 22 yds, but never any long TD runs. UF forced UK to make long sustained drives, and other than one long opening drive, and the short one after the muffed punt attempt, UK was never able to drive the distance. The breakaway TDs with Bowden at QB was something UK was able to do against everyone but UT and UGA, and I thought made a big difference in the game.
Speak for yourself! Vanderbilt has only beaten our Vols three out of the last four times. We are turning that around. Then we will turn it around against Florida. Then we will turn it around against Alabama.
Cute but we know you know the answer to that and that is this...
Ask anybody across the country to list the Elite programs past and present in BB and see how many times we come up.
Then do the same for football and see how many mention you boys do.
I think that ends your little comparison game.
I think that’s why it smarts so much that we’re threatening you boys in football too. We’ve already got something you envy in basketball, it would be devastating for us to pass you in YOUR sport.
Don’t look beside you now but...
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Something tells me “Star And Bars” is the anti-fan, or the most honest UT fan in the world!
Your reply also was cute ! The only problem with your logic is that while you are correct in saying that ky would probably be mentioned as a top tier team ( and rightly so) it is only b/c their constant top 3 recruiting classes and players in the NBA and b/c of their recent tournament play. The other point is that in football , clemson would certainly be mentioned by most today, but clemson is really a 5-6 year run . Historically, clemson has done done nothing with their program until just lately. I am not saying UT is a top tier program right now- far from it- but historically they are a top ten program and top 2-3 in the sec. Those are the facts and stats back that up.
I should have a "not" in front of their recent tournament play. No fears ky anymore- not UT, not auburn,etc. like they use to.
I wouldn't say historically, I would say more like hysterically.
So you say "while you are correct in saying that ky would probably be mentioned as a top tier team ( and rightly so) it is only b/c their constant top 3 recruiting classes and players in the NBA and b/c of their recent tournament play."
Dayam man, what else is there? Intrasquad scrimmages?
UCLA holds a record that probably only UK can challenge, but probably never will. That said, l no longer consider them a blue blood of CBB just like puke orange is no longer a blue blood of CFB...
Well again , look at the stats - UT is top ten in all-time wins , top 5 in bowl appearances and wins, second only to bama for conference championships and national championships, etc. These facts do not lie no matter how much we do not want to believe them. And, yes, we have not lived up to those standards for a good stretch of time but they are still there. Comment on these facts.
Yeah, and also, Kentucky has not played Georgia State or BYU in out of conference play. Ever! They are very tough opponents for an SEC team to face. And we hung within 26 points of West Virginia, too.
And I will help you out as you asked!
Florida
Tennessee 1-4
Kentucky 1-4
Georgia
Tennessee 2-3
Kentucky 0-5
Missouri
Tennessee 3-2
Kentucky 5-0
South Carolina
Tennessee 2-3
Kentucky 4-1
Vanderbilt
Tennessee 2-3
Kentucky 4-1
Alabama
Tennessee 0-5
Kentucky 0-1
Arkansas
Tennessee 0-1
Kentucky 1-0
Auburn
Tennessee 1-0
Kentucky 0-1
LSU
Tennessee 0-1
Kentucky 0-0
Ole Miss
Tennessee 0-0
Kentucky 0-1
Mississippi State
Tennessee 1-0
Kentucky 2-3
Texas A&M
Tennessee 0-1
Kentucky 0-1
Ok if that makes you feel better honey. Theres a BIG difference between being a nationally recognized Elite of the Elite program that "Nobody feards anymore" than being a had a few moments here and there that hardly anyone outside TN thinks of or consideres elite anymore. As you say, just stating facts my man. Reality is a booger sometimes.
That is right, the wildcats play no one in their out of conference games - it is too bad the cats aren`t in the mac (champs every year) . We did slip up against those 2 (byu and ga. state) but you cannot argue w/ our out of conference schedule and I'm not even going to give you examples but I definitively could.
I pointed out that we have not lived up to our historic standards- everyone knows that- so you bring up the last 5 years. ... ok ... the only real stat is that UT is 4-1 against the cats in those years. Also , from your data we play more games against and as good or better against the upper echelon of the sec. The vast majority of the wildcats wins are against middle to bottom dwellers- look at the data and see if that is not right.
Lol...but what was uts record against the middle to bottom dwellers. Ill hang up now and listen. Excuses coming soon....
Sam Gilbert, construction magnate, was the MVP of UCLA's unbeatable streak, not Wooden. He hid from the truth.
We play Transfer U every year, and while they got a late start they reminded me a lot of Thug U in their "just win" philosophy that their illustrious leader jurich took to incredible extremes. They did come up with some good players like the NFL MVP, the Big 12 defensive MVP transfer, several Georgia transfers, etc. For a while there jurich was scanning the prison records for every state looking for talent, he had the #1 football prospect in the nation transfer in (after he personally vetted him) but he ended up in prison for life as a habitual criminal. They also let their bowl MVP that went on an armed robbery spree loose on the public again after he was convicted and got a slap on the wrist, very lucky he didn't kill someone.
Thug U's record for forgiving rapes and robberies was right up there for a while when they were desperate, still a lot of things going on that most real Universities would gag over swept under the rug.
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I am one of those that care a lot more about UK football than I do basketball, although it is usually a lot easier to love.
I was really REALLY impressed with your Georgia State game, also really impressed with how lucky you were the rest of the year, amazing your last two games of the year. I sure hope we have a season this year, we have always had a big disadvantage in the trenches-----until now.
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You mean in the middle of a coaching change while you were ok with back to back to back losing seasons. If only we didn’t care about football and just let Butch stumble into one good season every decade.
And there's the excuses. So predictable. Got it...wins count unless they're UK wins and losses count unless they're UT losses.
