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Ranking the overall strength of SEC East programs

Stoops has had 7 yrs to Pruitts two and Pruitts already matched his best conference record since you wanna take non con out of the argument. You’re the one that brought up the Georgia State game. That was a disappointment. Doubt we see a game like that again from this team for a very very long time. Recruiting isn’t over until February tho. Maybe even later this year. Win 7 games in a one team conference again and let’s see how that class holds up.

"Doubt we see a game like that again from this team for a very very long time."

So you don't think we will have a season this year? Bummer.
 
Stoops has had 7 yrs to Pruitts two and Pruitts already matched his best conference record since you wanna take non con out of the argument. You’re the one that brought up the Georgia State game. That was a disappointment. Doubt we see a game like that again from this team for a very very long time. Recruiting isn’t over until February tho. Maybe even later this year. Win 7 games in a one team conference


 
I mean numerous programs do well with the triple option offense and they have 250 lbs lineman. Hell when y’all were beating up on Mizzou and Vandy with it, y’all didn’t wanna go back. Now it was stupid to run it in the first place. Thank goodness JG didn’t play both halves, it would’ve looked like 2018 again.

Don't be a DS, we only ran it last year because we lost all of our QBs. The whole team didn't come to play in 18 after we lost to Georgia, one of the worst games we ever played. And you did play ONE good game that year, out of a dozen.

It is football, very unpredictable.
 
Don't be a DS, we only ran it last year because we lost all of our QBs. The whole team didn't come to play in 18 after we lost to Georgia, one of the worst games we ever played. And you did play ONE good game that year, out of a dozen.
We handled Auburn pretty good too.
 
what kind of offense are y’all gonna run? Seems like y’all are passing on Yousef Mugharbil and Colby Smith who will both be big bumps in the next rerank.

We're probably only going to take one more OT. Mugharbil is from Murphy, so actually probably a lot closer to Knoxville. I haven't heard much if anything about him recently. Smith is starting to blow up. Definitely not the easiest position to evaluate though
 
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We're probably only going to take one more OT. Mugharbil is from Murphy, so actually probably a lot closer to Knoxville. I haven't heard much if anything about him recently. Smith is starting to blow up. Definitely not the easiest position to evaluate though
My dads from Murphy. Played with Carl Pickens. I like Colbys size a lot. We’re trending well for him.
 
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I mean numerous programs do well with the triple option offense and they have 250 lbs lineman. Hell when y’all were beating up on Mizzou and Vandy with it, y’all didn’t wanna go back. Now it was stupid to run it in the first place. Thank goodness JG didn’t play both halves, it would’ve looked like 2018 again.

Your coach must have been pretty stupid to not play him both halves, huh. Did he just get there as the teams were warming up?
 
Your coach must have been pretty stupid to not play him both halves, huh. Did he just get there as the teams were warming up?
He had a broken non throwing hand. They were trying to let Maurer win the game but he wasn’t getting it done.
 
They’ve been independent for almost a decade now.

Toledo beat BYU, that beat Thug U, and we beat Toledo, scored 36 on them BEFORE we lost our two QBs to injury. Of course we were a different team before they were both injured, like Florida found out, had them beat until the second QB got injured. Should have won the game anyway, I am looking forward to playing them this year, too bad it is an away game. But Wilson beat them there the last time he played them there.
 
Yeah. Pruitts boss said we don’t lose to UK and we aren’t.

Yeah, two in a row, just like the old days, lol. How did you like the ESPN rating that put UK ahead of Thug U, UK top half of the SEC in 7th, and you in 8th? LOL With only six decent teams in the SEC, according to them.

Wasn't it you that said you don't expect to lose to a non P5 team for at least a decade, after losing to TWO IN ONE YEAR? You can't make some of this stuff up.
 
Yeah. Pruitts boss said we don’t lose to UK and we aren’t.

You mean Phat Phil? I thought you got rid of him once, did he come back to show you some of your old cheating tricks? Some of your new coaches attempts to deal with the press are pretty funny, pretty sure he is trying to teach him some of his tricks. The player with the failure to appear warrant was a riot. The freshman All American DB that beat up his girl friend wasn't funny at all, but not surprising that nothing happened to him, didn't it happen twice?
 
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They’ve been independent for almost a decade now.
Only fb...and they don't play a high D1 schedule. I follow the Y and got to take a tour of their facilities back in the day. Beautiful campus . Don't know if you remember Paul Wilman that did local radio in Louisville. He and l were pretty good friends . He went to BYU and was a big Cougar's fan along with growing up a Cat's fan. Could do Adolph as good or better than anyone. Died way too young.
 
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BYU lost to Utah by 18, Washington by 26, Toledo (that UK beat by 35 to 21, with healthy QBs), South Florida, San Diego State, and Hawaii. Hardly a murderer's row that all beat BYU. But then BYU beat mighty Thug U, but then of course so did Georgia State. TWO losses to non P5 schools, but they aren't going to lose to another one for ten years, lol. Get your bets in now folks, while you can..
 
I won't link TOS but go there and look at overall team talent. Tenn is actually close to UF with 30+ four stars, a handful of five stars, but you've been getting blown out by them and UGA. Beating a bunch of non-power 5s and independents isn't exactly something to hang your hat on as a supposed elite football program. Meanwhile, look at what Stoops is doing with about half that on his roster. I bet he'd have UK in the SECCG or close to it with that much talent. I really don't have a dog in the fight, but it's pretty funny you guys trying to flex like we're still in the late 90s. That and ol' Mack is taking you to the shed on the recruiting trail.

Stoops has done a very good job of developing players, there is no doubt about that. But comparing a HC who has had 7 seasons to put in place his own culture is much different from a HC who was in his 2nd season and trying to completely change the culture that B. Jones allowed to permeate into the football program. Not to mention the lack of S&C and lack of overall player development under Jones. Stoops had the advantage, like Pinkel did at Mizzou, of not being under any real pressure from his AD of winning immediately or else, thus being able to take those 3* lineman and RS and develop them. A lot of those 4* on UT's roster were never able to contribute regularly because of lingering injuries, caused not just by lack of proper development, but by a medical staff that wasn't very good at getting guys healed properly (which is why that staff was let go), and why UT lost so many former highly recruited players to medical retirement. So much so that there was no real quality depth at most positions the last couple of seasons. And Jones never had a plan to his recruiting. He was just recruiting high ranked guys regardless if they were good fits in his system, not to mention he didn't seem to value speed in the DB/WR positions, or size on the OL. It will take Pruitt 3-4 good recruiting classes to have size, speed, and depth necessary to compete at the top level of the SEC, but certainly Pruitt's first couple of signing classes have been a very good start.
 
Stoops has done a very good job of developing players, there is no doubt about that. But comparing a HC who has had 7 seasons to put in place his own culture is much different from a HC who was in his 2nd season and trying to completely change the culture that B. Jones allowed to permeate into the football program. Not to mention the lack of S&C and lack of overall player development under Jones. Stoops had the advantage, like Pinkel did at Mizzou, of not being under any real pressure from his AD of winning immediately or else, thus being able to take those 3* lineman and RS and develop them. A lot of those 4* on UT's roster were never able to contribute regularly because of lingering injuries, caused not just by lack of proper development, but by a medical staff that wasn't very good at getting guys healed properly (which is why that staff was let go), and why UT lost so many former highly recruited players to medical retirement. So much so that there was no real quality depth at most positions the last couple of seasons. And Jones never had a plan to his recruiting. He was just recruiting high ranked guys regardless if they were good fits in his system, not to mention he didn't seem to value speed in the DB/WR positions, or size on the OL. It will take Pruitt 3-4 good recruiting classes to have size, speed, and depth necessary to compete at the top level of the SEC, but certainly Pruitt's first couple of signing classes have been a very good start.
Jones never recruited the OL well. Friends brought in twice as many blue chip OLs in 2 years as Jones brought in 5. Butch also pursued a ton of legacies that were probably a little overrated due to who their daddies were (Vic Wharton, Dillon Bates, Khalil McKenzie, Nieko Creamer).
 
That "jauk11" is sure going off on an hysterical rant this morning. Must be "cabin fever" as President Trump said. Opening up the country will be beneficial to the the country and to jauk's state of mind.
 
BYU lost to Utah by 18, Washington by 26, Toledo (that UK beat by 35 to 21, with healthy QBs), South Florida, San Diego State, and Hawaii. Hardly a murderer's row that all beat BYU. But then BYU beat mighty Thug U, but then of course so did Georgia State. TWO losses to non P5 schools, but they aren't going to lose to another one for ten years, lol. Get your bets in now folks, while you can..

That has to make you wonder why UK could not...at home.

Oh yeah, right. The 4 QB thingy.
 
That "jauk11" is sure going off on an hysterical rant this morning. Must be "cabin fever" as President Trump said. Opening up the country will be beneficial to the the country and to jauk's state of mind.
Well you guys are visitors telling us to temper our expectations and “how dare we purport to be a program that can ups beat UT”.

It’s a quick way to wear out a welcome
 
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We all know that UK fans secretly hope football is cancelled so they will not lose to Tennessee. Its their only hope.
 
Well you guys are visitors telling us to temper our expectations and “how dare we purport to be a program that can ups beat UT”.

It’s a quick way to wear out a welcome
We are just making our arguments known. Most of your fans agree with us. You beat Tennessee in two of their worst seasons in history.
 
Stoops has done a very good job of developing players, there is no doubt about that. But comparing a HC who has had 7 seasons to put in place his own culture is much different from a HC who was in his 2nd season and trying to completely change the culture that B. Jones allowed to permeate into the football program. Not to mention the lack of S&C and lack of overall player development under Jones. Stoops had the advantage, like Pinkel did at Mizzou, of not being under any real pressure from his AD of winning immediately or else, thus being able to take those 3* lineman and RS and develop them. A lot of those 4* on UT's roster were never able to contribute regularly because of lingering injuries, caused not just by lack of proper development, but by a medical staff that wasn't very good at getting guys healed properly (which is why that staff was let go), and why UT lost so many former highly recruited players to medical retirement. So much so that there was no real quality depth at most positions the last couple of seasons. And Jones never had a plan to his recruiting. He was just recruiting high ranked guys regardless if they were good fits in his system, not to mention he didn't seem to value speed in the DB/WR positions, or size on the OL. It will take Pruitt 3-4 good recruiting classes to have size, speed, and depth necessary to compete at the top level of the SEC, but certainly Pruitt's first couple of signing classes have been a very good start.


"but by a medical staff that wasn't very good at getting guys healed properly (which is why that staff was let go),"

But but but-----

ESPN said that staff was let go because they wouldn't OK players to play when they were needed before they got healed. I wonder why they would say that unless it were true? And Pruitt said not to look at him, he wasn't even in charge of letting them go, I wonder who was.

OH, he said it was PHAT PHIL, can you imagine him being in charge of anything except winning?
 
"but by a medical staff that wasn't very good at getting guys healed properly (which is why that staff was let go),"

But but but-----

ESPN said that staff was let go because they wouldn't OK players to play when they were needed before they got healed. I wonder why they would say that unless it were true? And Pruitt said not to look at him, he wasn't even in charge of letting them go, I wonder who was.

OH, he said it was PHAT PHIL, can you imagine him being in charge of anything except winning?
Pruitt doesn’t seem to be having guys medically retire at the rate Butch and the previous staff do. Darrin Kirkland, Todd Kelly Jr, Jack Jones, Jauan Jennings and so on. The list is significant of guys who had multiple injuries to the same joint due to poor surgeries and rehab under the old staff. Knock on wood, that doesn’t happen again but with the exception Emmitt Gooden in preseason camp and Brandon Kennedy in between game 1 and 2 of 2018. Couple of bone breaks and spinal stenosis that the previous doctors didn’t detect is the only major non tissue injuries.
 
That "jauk11" is sure going off on an hysterical rant this morning. Must be "cabin fever" as President Trump said. Opening up the country will be beneficial to the the country and to jauk's state of mind.

I'm just repeating what I have read, can you read? Or did you go to Thug U on an athletic scholarship? ESPN does investigate sports related topics occasionally.
 
We are just making our arguments known. Most of your fans agree with us. You beat Tennessee in two of their worst seasons in history.

Name the "most of your fans agree with us". More BS, glad you can speak for them though, when did you run your survey?
 
Name the "most of your fans agree with us". More BS, glad you can speak for them though, when did you run your survey?
I mean go back to the first few posts of this thread. Numerous guys say “Until we can beat Tennessee more than they beat us, they have to be put above us” or something similar.
 
We are just making our arguments known. Most of your fans agree with us. You beat Tennessee in two of their worst seasons in history.

Most of our fans agree with you? lol Just another example of your pompous attitude when you are guests on our board. Uninvited guests, I might add. Go home, if you have one.
 
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That has to make you wonder why UK could not...at home.

Oh yeah, right. The 4 QB thingy.

When is the last time you had FOUR of your top QBs out with injury? When is the last time you had a WR taking most of the snaps, the only time I can remember at UK is when our WR ended your long winning streak against us in 2011, he passed about as well as Bowden (fantastic runner), he was 3 for 5 for TWELVE yards.
 
Pruitt doesn’t seem to be having guys medically retire at the rate Butch and the previous staff do. Darrin Kirkland, Todd Kelly Jr, Jack Jones, Jauan Jennings and so on. The list is significant of guys who had multiple injuries to the same joint due to poor surgeries and rehab under the old staff. Knock on wood, that doesn’t happen again but with the exception Emmitt Gooden in preseason camp and Brandon Kennedy in between game 1 and 2 of 2018. Couple of bone breaks and spinal stenosis that the previous doctors didn’t detect is the only major non tissue injuries.

Did you get your Doctor's degree from Thug U?
 
I mean go back to the first few posts of this thread. Numerous guys say “Until we can beat Tennessee more than they beat us, they have to be put above us” or something similar.

Why did the recemt ESPN article put UK at 7th in the conference and Thug U at eighth? The best team doesn't always win in football, have you ever noticed that? QB injuries are the ONLY reason you beat us this year. Also the only reason a couple of other teams beat us this year.
 
When is the last time you had FOUR of your top QBs out with injury? When is the last time you had a WR taking most of the snaps, the only time I can remember at UK is when our WR ended your long winning streak against us in 2011, he passed about as well as Bowden (fantastic runner), he was 3 for 5 for TWELVE yards.
Shows you how wildly unpredictable an offense like that is.
 
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