POLITICAL THREAD

[Bigmikeydelight]

You should learn to have such conversations without being offensive.

THis is part of our cultural problem of "not discussing religion or politics" in polite company. I haven't read your posts, and likely won't, but what I have from people posting like you, say someone like Nightwish or DreadLox, are so remarkably obtuse and unjustifiably arrogant that they strain credulity. If you bring that type of attitude to someone older with demonstrated competence, it's likely you'll frustrate them by your ignorance.

But one should never get upset by politics, i.e. opinions. Tha's dumb. People are tribal and have political beliefs for a host of irrrational reasons. Tha'ts just as dumb.

I won’t bore with details, but to sum up conversations with my dad go:

Dad says something.
I challenge or ask a question.
Dad refuses to answer or goes into diatribe.

So my approach has now been to find things that I somewhat understand or agree with and start the conversation down a path where there’s common ground. Once I do this, we can talk more about differences.

When I post here, I’d like to extend the conversation so that it isn’t so open/shut, like most of the post I see. If I feel like I’m sucking too much air from the room, I’ll go back to lurking.

 

[Catfan in Tn.]

Would love to see Elon go after the RINOs

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That’s all well and good but McConnell more than likely is retiring after his term ends.

 

[SDC888]

I won’t bore with details, but to sum up conversations with my dad go:

Dad says something.
I challenge or ask a question.
Dad refuses to answer or goes into diatribe.

So my approach has now been to find things that I somewhat understand or agree with and start the conversation down a path where there’s common ground. Once I do this, we can talk more about differences.

When I post here, I’d like to extend the conversation so that it isn’t so open/shut, like most of the post I see. If I feel like I’m sucking too much air from the room, I’ll go back to lurking.

Well, provided you're genuinely actually interested in having productive dialogue with him, give me an example and I'll tell you where your/his error is.

 

[Bigmikeydelight]

Well, provided you're genuinely actually interested in having productive dialogue with him, give me an example and I'll tell you where your/his error is.

"Spent 3k on X, 2k on Y, and 3k on Z this week. I can't keep doing this" -Dad (Dad is renovating house).
"Yeah, its tough. Everything is expensive" -me
"I cannot wait for Trump to get into office so things get cheaper." -Dad
"Me too, but what exactly is he going to do to help?" -me
"He's not going to let companies take care of Americans." -Dad
"But how?" -Me
"Don't be a smartass. I don't know, but we didn't have this problem when he was in office." -Dad

Last phone conversation went something like this that mentioned politics.

 

[blubo]

if your economy is dependent on illegal non citizens then you’re commiting crime

 

[Cleatortoises]

That’s all well and good but McConnell more than likely is retiring after his term ends.

Seems just as likely that he doesn't make it the end of his term.🪦

 

[vhcat70]

I was thinking for the ones (most probably) who are now preparing for the inevitable (deportation threat) to move to the sanctuary cities and places where the governors are saying they will not allow that to happen before Trump gets into office. I welcome it actually. I hope these states and municipalities get what they are asking for. It will completely overwhelm them and destroy their strongholds.

Do us a favor and open your doors to a few of them and show us how good it works for you.

You first.

 

[vhcat70]

How do you know "and they'd know"
Where is your knowledge train?

Same way you don't know half is being stolen - common sense.

 

[cole854]

if your economy is dependent on illegal non citizens then you’re commiting crime

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If they are now forthcoming w/ this 600K number, then someone's head needs to roll.

 

[Cleatortoises]

if your economy is dependent on illegal non citizens then you’re commiting crime

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Some lesson are still learned the hard way.
Let them learn theirs.
It'll build character. (Hopefully)

 

[BBUK]

That’s all well and good but McConnell more than likely is retiring after his term ends.

Even if he retires he will not go quietly. he will work from behind the scenes even worse to get what he wants. His ilk NEVER gives up power.

 

[vhcat70]

Correct, but francophone Africa still uses it. There’s a video by TLDR that explains it with better detail about the Sahel region and why switching from the franc upsets France that I can post.

The Fr franc has no value, but apparently these places don't know it. France won't exchange euros for 20 years+ old francs. No other place would either.

 

[Cleatortoises]

Same way you don't know half is being stolen - common sense.

I didn't say half was being stolen.
You said matter of factly, "they would know".
How is it you determined that?
I would actually assume it's more than 50, by the way.

 

[vhcat70]

You should learn to have such conversations without being offensive.

THis is part of our cultural problem of "not discussing religion or politics" in polite company. I haven't read your posts, and likely won't, but what I have from people posting like you, say someone like Nightwish or DreadLox, are so remarkably obtuse and unjustifiably arrogant that they strain credulity. If you bring that type of attitude to someone older with demonstrated competence, it's likely you'll frustrate them by your ignorance.

But one should never get upset by politics, i.e. opinions. Tha's dumb. People are tribal and have political beliefs for a host of irrrational reasons. Tha'ts just as dumb.

The MAGA folks that take offense at anything they perceive to be less than 100% MAGA are a much bigger issue here than he is.

 

[Bigmikeydelight]

The Fr franc has no value, but apparently these places don't know it. France won't exchange euros for 20 years+ old francs. No other place would either.

 

[megablue]

I think we can all agree that this is a good thing ?? There are numerous reports about how Finland promotes media literacy.

How Finland is teaching its young to spot fake news

The curriculum covers various topics, from questioning where stories come from to the right to freedom of expression.

www.channelnewsasia.com

 

[bigblueinsanity]

if your economy is dependent on illegal non citizens then you’re commiting crime

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Jmo but deportation wont cause the price of goods to go up at least not by much. 1) other than small construction and small farming, barely anyone employees illegals.

The real consumer cost pressure is going to be the game of chicken with tariffs. Thats because outsourcing is where companies really spread their margins. However even that wont impact consumer prices too much, because marketplace competition.

So where will companies make up the difference? It will have to be cutting insane ceo pay. Or by saving on the fortune they spend on specialists to navigate administrative boondoggles.

The left are constantly screaming tax the rich, especially ceos and companies. So this will achieve that goal. I assume theyre happy?

 

[WTF Cat]

if your economy is dependent on illegal non citizens then you’re commiting crime

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Ya know... if the Left hadn't killed 60 million babies over the last 50 years we'd have plenty of workers.

 

[Lost In FL]

Understand where you're going but it doesn't work like you are depicting. Wish I felt like typing but getting ready to call it. I just made a request for unallocated funds for FY25, called a UFR. Only a few hundred k. I know how this works intricately.

An unfunded request? Very familiar with them.

 

[cat_chaser]

I won’t bore with details, but to sum up conversations with my dad go:

Dad says something.
I challenge or ask a question.
Dad refuses to answer or goes into diatribe.

So my approach has now been to find things that I somewhat understand or agree with and start the conversation down a path where there’s common ground. Once I do this, we can talk more about differences.

When I post here, I’d like to extend the conversation so that it isn’t so open/shut, like most of the post I see. If I feel like I’m sucking too much air from the room, I’ll go back to lurking.

Why do you think there was such a huge red wave and why do you think the American people elected Trump - a man I’m sure you think is a fascists dictator nazi?

Basically, why do you think the Dems lost to a man your side calls Hitler?

 

[KAB Cats]

I think we can all agree that this is a good thing ?? There are numerous reports about how Finland promotes media literacy.

How Finland is teaching its young to spot fake news

The curriculum covers various topics, from questioning where stories come from to the right to freedom of expression.

www.channelnewsasia.com

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I like it. Step in right direction. Should go even further in to include Internet literacy....

 

[Bigmikeydelight]

Why do you think there was such a huge red wave and why do you think the American people elected Trump - a man I’m sure you think is a fascists dictator nazi?

Basically, why do you think the Dems lost to a man your side calls Hitler?

I don't think it is fair to assume all democrats fit the mold of the soundbytes you see.

Incumbents lost everywhere this past election cycle because of inflation. I think most people think that republicans do a better job at controlling inflation and so this with the backlash of incumbency is why he won.

I will be consider the second trump term a success if he is able to:

Reduce government spending
Reduce inflation
Reduce the number of people that live in poverty
Prevent the increase in global conflicts (if possible)

What I really want to see avoided is the culture war nonsense. I don't care anything about those issues at all. I work in a school district (home with a sick kid today) where 60% of the students are free or reduced. The most important thing for me is seeing this population have a higher quality of life.

 

[cole854]

Abortion, illegal invasion, million$ of illegal drugs into the country, child trafficking, child mutilation, sanctuary cities, economic peril, high risk of war...........just a few things to congratulate this administration for.

 

[WayneDougan]

Abortion, illegal invasion, million$ of illegal drugs into the country, child trafficking, child mutilation, sanctuary cities, economic peril, high risk of war...........just a few things to congratulate this administration for.

The drug thing is the one that pisses me off the most. I cannot believe our society allows 100K people to die each year from Chinese and Mexican poison. To me, that's war level shit.

 

[trueblujr2]

I don't think it is fair to assume all democrats fit the mold of the soundbytes you see.

Incumbents lost everywhere this past election cycle because of inflation. I think most people think that republicans do a better job at controlling inflation and so this with the backlash of incumbency is why he won.

I will be consider the second trump term a success if he is able to:

Reduce government spending
Reduce inflation
Reduce the number of people that live in poverty
Prevent the increase in global conflicts (if possible)

What I really want to see avoided is the culture war nonsense. I don't care anything about those issues at all. I work in a school district (home with a sick kid today) where 60% of the students are free or reduced. The most important thing for me is seeing this population have a higher quality of life.

Regarding free or reduced lunch, I'm all for abolishing the Department of Education and allotting some of those billions to providing all kids with a free or much cheaper school lunch, but it also has to be much healthier and preferably in coordination with local or regional food sources. Stop subsidizing ungodly amounts of corn and turn some of that land over to grow other various crops.

Just my 2 cents.

 

[Bill Cosby]

The drug thing is the one that pisses me off the most. I cannot believe our society allows 100K people to die each year from Chinese and Mexican poison. To me, that's war level shit.

Well how else is the CIA going to generate off book cash to fund coups if we go to war against their suppliers?

 

[WayneDougan]

Well how else is the CIA going to generate off book cash to fund coups if we go to war against their suppliers?

I know this was rhetorical, but there is something like $90B per year in government spending we can't account for. Maybe take it from there.