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How will they rule ??!

  • YES - Qualified

    Votes: 41 82.0%
  • NO - Disqualified

    Votes: 9 18.0%

  • Total voters
    50
  • Poll closed .
I've never heard of "election wizard" so I can't speak to that, but Baris' breakdowns of the RCP pollsters' crosstabs don't indicate the female voter gap that was anticipated. In fact, it's at about half of what Kamala was hoping for. Now, they're POLLS, and polls don't win elections. Based on the internals though, and the early vote in PA, Democrats are going to have to election day vote in record numbers to grab PA. Not saying they won't, just saying that is what it will take. And PA is where 270 gets "gotten", for BOTH candidates.
Trying to decipher early voting crosstabs in general is a dangerous game and can be spun in either direction. It's just hard to predict how most groups will vote when Donald Trump is on the ballot. Neither is going to take every swing state and there won't be a landslide, which is funny considering plenty of Trump voters believe that while those on the left are taking one poll from tonight and thinking Harris is now in landslide terrority herself. Trump is also spending the rest of his time in NC, which is sort of odd. Does he think he's got PA wrapped up or does he believe he's losing it? In recent days, he's begun saying PA is cheating. That doesn't sound like someone who believes he's going to win the state.
 
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Trying to decipher early voting crosstabs in general is a dangerous game and can be spun in either direction. It's just hard to predict how most groups will vote when Donald Trump is on the ballot. Neither is going to take every swing state and there won't be a landslide, which is funny considering plenty of Trump voters believe that while those on the left are taking one poll from tonight and thinking Harris is now in landslide terrority herself. Trump is also spending the rest of his time in NC, which is sort of odd. Does he think he's got PA wrapped up or does he believe he's losing it? In recent days, he's begun saying PA is cheating. That doesn't sound like someone who believes he's going to win the state.
BS. She is down to Hillary numbers in every single credible poll. You have to add in outlier polls to get her to even. If you actually followed this stuff instead of just listening to msm you wouldn't even be in here because we are going to bump these post in 4 to 15 days.
 
Trying to decipher early voting crosstabs in general is a dangerous game and can be spun in either direction. It's just hard to predict how most groups will vote when Donald Trump is on the ballot. Neither is going to take every swing state and there won't be a landslide, which is funny considering plenty of Trump voters believe that while those on the left are taking one poll from tonight and thinking Harris is now in landslide terrority herself. Trump is also spending the rest of his time in NC, which is sort of odd. Does he think he's got PA wrapped up or does he believe he's losing it? In recent days, he's begun saying PA is cheating. That doesn't sound like someone who believes he's going to win the state.

I wouldn't presume to know. LOL

I know this, if he loses NC, he's done. I've been saying that for months. It's the lynch pin. Without it, he needs PA AND either WI or MI.

If he wins NC, he forces Kamala to sweep the rust belt, and all three of those states are essentially tossups. He'll need one (if he holds Nevada) and she'll need all three.

Again, just my 2 cents. I wouldn't comfortably bet money on either one of them right now, that's how close it is.

(It's not early voting crosstabs I was referring to, it was pre-election polls.)
 
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I wouldn't presume to know. LOL

I know this, if he loses NC, he's done. I've been saying that for months. It's the lynch pin. Without it, he needs PA AND either WI or MI.

If he wins NC, he forces Kamala to sweep the rust belt, and all three of those states are essentially tossups. He'll need one (if he holds Nevada) and she'll need all three.

Again, just my 2 cents. I wouldn't comfortably bet money on either one of them right now, that's how close it is.

(It's not early voting crosstabs I was referring to, it was pre-election polls.)
So Turmp took NC in 16 and 20 and now after skewing more conservative is going to go dem....OK. Or maybe they are just trying to keep people like NightWish hopeful so that when they try to steal it they have a reasonable take. NC is +3 pub at a minimum right now.
 
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I wouldn't presume to know. LOL

I know this, if he loses NC, he's done. I've been saying that for months. It's the lynch pin. Without it, he needs PA AND either WI or MI.

If he wins NC, he forces Kamala to sweep the rust belt, and all three of those states are essentially tossups. He'll need one (if he holds Nevada) and she'll need all three.

Again, just my 2 cents. I wouldn't comfortably bet money on either one of them right now, that's how close it is.

(It's not early voting crosstabs I was referring to, it was pre-election polls.)
The other day some guy on Reddit said he put $10,000 on Harris. I think it'd pay $28,000 or something but I can't tell you how insane that is in a race this close. Granted, I've believed for months Trump will lose and still believe that but putting that much coin on this election? No.

I was most confident during the '08 and '12 elections. 2016 got me as it got most people. And I was very confident in 2020. 2024? I'm slightly confident and really believe women are going to be the deciding factor.
 
Yes, Florida is going to vote for Trump. We know that already. Wanna show us a tweet of how MS is voting too? What I'm curious about is what the talking points will be if he loses the election. It can't just be polls were wrong in 2016 so all polls are wrong forever and 2020 and 2024 equals stolen. That sounds ridiculous but I think we're headed that way, at least in this thread.
 
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Sam: is she a fing horse?!?!
 
What’s the final number these pieces of shit gaslight us with? Theyre going to claim she’s the most popular ever so it’s going to be more than 81M. It’s going to be an absolute joke.
 
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What’s the final number these pieces of shit gaslight us with? Theyre going to claim she’s the most popular ever so it’s going to be more than 81M. It’s going to be an absolute joke.
Wanna hit us with some more Alex Jones talking points instead? You got lit up in that thread once you began attacking the father of a slain child.
 
Rasmussen also has a history of coordinating with Trump's campaign team. Silver has mentioned that more than once. They typically lean right and are very Trump friendly. Does that automatically make them wrong? No, but just pointing that out.
LOL - I'll tell you like I told dion. I've never commented on Rasmussen pro or con. I've only posted about Rasmussen TWO times in the entire election cycle. (other than trying pound the point home that I have no opinion on the validity of their polls)

Here is what we KNOW. Taking all of the polls up to this point, and averaging them together, Trump leads in the National Vote, and in the swing states of NV,AZ,GA,NC,PA,MI, and WI. That is the polling AVERAGE. The early vote firewall in PA is roughly half of what it was in 2020. This is the information that we have, RIGHT NOW.

I'm NOT trying to convince you that Trump is winning. I've clearly stated that, IMO, it is a dead heat.

Just because I post information, doesn't necessarily mean that I'm endorsing it.

How many F***ing times do I have to explain this to you all? 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣
 
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This, I DO know: No matter what happens on Tuesday, the liberals on this board will never develop a sense of humor or be happy. They're are incapable of feeling "joy" Schadenfreude is as close as they'll ever get. 🤣 🤣
 
LOL - I'll tell you like I told dion. I've never commented on Rasmussen pro or con. I've only posted about Rasmussen TWO times in the entire election cycle.

Here is what we KNOW. Taking all of the polls up to this point, and averaging them together, Trump leads in the National Vote, and in the swing states of NV,AZ,GA,NC,PA,MI, and WI. That is the polling AVERAGE. The early vote firewall in PA is roughly half of what it was in 2020. This is the information that we have, RIGHT NOW.

I'm NOT trying to convince you that Trump is winning. I've clearly stated that, IMO, it is a dead heat.

Just because I post information, doesn't necessarily mean that I'm endorsing it.

How many F***ing times do I have to explain this to you all? 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣
I'm just pointing out they work with Trump's campaign, that's all. I posted the tweet showing something good for Harris and you posted something that's good for Trump.

I know how this thread rolls. Everything pro-Trump is posted and liked and if there's a poll here and there for Harris that's good, it's largely laughed off or seen as fake. Same thing happened in 2020 and after the election this thread has had a four year crying fit because when you only see what you want to see and the opposite happens, it must be because of something sinister. So yeah, not saying you worship at the altar of Rass lol. Just saying they do work with his campaign. That should be noted when posting a video of them already claiming victory for Don.
 
This, I DO know: No matter what happens on Tuesday, the liberals on this board will never develop a sense of humor or be happy. They're are incapable of feeling "joy" Schadenfreude is as close as they'll ever get. 🤣 🤣
The lefty posters will turn out in droves when Kamala magically gets 87 million votes and will celebrate as this country gets the final death nail.

Everything about this woman is fake. Her entire campaign, her fake interest. It’s a joke.
 
This is likely your answer, as most into the numbers of it all were waiting for this particular poll to drop tonight. Obviously this doesn't mean Harris is winning IA but if it's anywhere close to this, she wins the race. If it's that close in Iowa or she's actually leading, that makes things significantly tougher for Trump. But tonight, disregard it if you want, say it's cheating, I don't care. We'll all know on Tuesday evening what's what.

So who ya gonna believe - Selser, Rasmussen, or Baris?
 
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