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How will they rule ??!

  • YES - Qualified

    Votes: 41 82.0%
  • NO - Disqualified

    Votes: 9 18.0%

  • Total voters
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Which other Republican could’ve won 2016?

I wanted DeSantis this year but that went to crap. Haley surely wasn’t going to win anything and she’s not much better anyway than another leftist.
How is 2016 relevant to now? It's not. I don't get why Haley turns so many off other than the Fortress America fans. She correctly predicted Dims getting rid of Biden would help them.
 
Better shape than when?

It wasn't simply COVID that tanked the economy. Trump's mixed messages, injecting his "genius" into treatments, and actual opposition to preventative measures when the ijuts grew upset made matters worse. Now, he wasn't worse than Woodrow Wilson who never addressed the Spanish Flu ... at all ... but Trump made Trump the focus of the fight against COVID.

Gas prices out of control (except for right this minute due to election)
Ridiculous inflation, something ive never seen in my lifetime.
A record amount of illegals pouring in with zero plan, just cries about "Trump put illegals in cages" garbage..
2 extremely volatile wars going on, with Russia warships practicing 60 miles off Miami.

You have to be biased to point its borderline lunacy to believe the country is better now. We haven't been this close to WW3 since Castro was youthful.
 
Uhh what? You just say this and then don't cite the case. Not true at all.
There was a North Carolina case about voter id that SCOTUS remanded back to lower courts. They felt that the state hadn't been given the opportunity to defend it.

Voter ID laws that provide for easy access to the ID for the elderly or the poor who do not drive, those seem fine. But in practice alternate ids to drivers licenses and birth certificates are almost always difficult to get.

The SCOTUS did not say they were not a poll tax. But if you have to pay to get them in order to vote, it would be pure sophistry to deny that's what they are.
 
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Were these biological women or the todays woman? Big difference there Dion.

What policies do you stand for that Harris is proposing and what good has she accomplished for you personally the last 3.5yrs?
Biological woman. And that's not what you said about the trans influencer who went topless on the WH lawn. Y'all were definitely all pearl-clutchy about those titties.

Harris hasn't said much yet about policy to critique. She isn't Trump or a Republican though, so she's got my vote. A socialist isn't going to vote for the right. You expect me to?
 
One tried to persuade votes by paying student debt with our taxes, now the other is promising 25 grand to persuade votes, again with our taxes. Where do these cheating ass people get off? Then she claims to have worked at McDonalds, the only drive thru she has seen is her mouth..
 
You're arguing white people have a genetic, born in advantage in politics like the Black population does being a running back? Explain what it is then.
Black population is 13% of the population, how many are Republicans? Maybe 1 out of 50,000? The argument was that the selection of Blacks wanting to run on a Repub ticket are so minimal that theres none to choose from, none at least with the speaking abilities of a Obama. SO why aren't there more white running backs? Answer- Because theres none to choose from. Same with black Repubs.
 
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A consequence of communism. China enslaved its own people to harvest grain, which it sold to other countries in exchange for industrial equipment, which it used to grow its industrial base. Between 30 and 70 million Chinese starved to death during this short period. We honestly don't know how many, because China lied about it and got away with it. There was no internet back then.
I am semi retired now, but I have posted before about the industry I was in and how China decimated it in the early to mid eighties. I have only second hand stories as proof, but they did sell their goods at a fraction of our cost. People who claimed they saw it said they forced workers in to production plants at slave wages, by gun point if necessary. I had a delegation of Chinese come into my factory led by one of the first Americans to import our product. They wanted me to buy from them and become one of the early distributors. I guess it cost me a fortune, but I said no because it just didn't seem right.
 
We just said the same thing, did we not? Many of them were deists, many of them were not. Depends on the specific individual. And that's why the consensus was reached to be entirely secular. So that each individual could have their own relationship with religion unburdened by the state.
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There was a North Carolina case about voter id that SCOTUS remanded back to lower courts. They felt that the state hadn't been given the opportunity to defend it.

Voter ID laws that provide for easy access to the ID for the elderly or the poor who do not drive, those seem fine. But in practice alternate ids to drivers licenses and birth certificates are almost always difficult to get.

The SCOTUS did not say they were not a poll tax. But if you have to pay to get them in order to vote, it would be pure sophistry to deny that's what they are.
Yeah, SCOTUS's involvement in NC's law was just a statement on whether the state legislature has jurisdiction to also defend the law in court. It didn't have anything to do with the constitutionality of it being a poll tax. NC provides the required ID for free, just like every other state that has a requirement, so that was not even being litigated there.
 
Uhh what? You just say this and then don't cite the case. Not true at all.
Do your own homework. I researched it to my satisfaction, and, as of NOW, and until SCOTUS says otherwise, voter ID laws do not constitute a poll tax. And that is a fact, jack. Get back to me when SCOTUS says they are. Until then, quit whining about it. LOL

Any Federal election process that does not actively check to make sure only US Citizens are voting is fraudulent. Nothing you can say will change that basic fact.

Difficult and inconvenient. LOL Here's a newsflash for you Dion. Life IS very often difficult and inconvenient. Some people fold and whine, others do what is necessary.

I wonder how some of you all can even FUNCTION, day to day. LOL
 
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Gas prices out of control (except for right this minute due to election)
Ridiculous inflation, something ive never seen in my lifetime.
A record amount of illegals pouring in with zero plan, just cries about "Trump put illegals in cages" garbage..
2 extremely volatile wars going on, with Russia warships practicing 60 miles off Miami.

You have to be biased to point its borderline lunacy to believe the country is better now. We haven't been this close to WW3 since Castro was youthful.
Gas prices were out of control due to the Russian/Ukraine War. Any time there are supply issues, prices rise.

Trump's trillion dollar stimulus stoked the inflation. Just because he wasn't in office doesn't mean his measure didn't have any effect.

There aren't record numbers of illegals pouring in. There are the same number now as they were under Trump. 11 million. And for the last 5 months there have been so few that Abbott can't pull his $150 million dollar busing stunt.

We aren't at war. You seem to imagine the presidency as omnipotent. It isn't.

You can try to win arguments by making declaratory statements, but they're not as convincing as you imagine.
 
Gas prices were out of control due to the Russian/Ukraine War. Any time there are supply issues, prices rise.

Trump's trillion dollar stimulus stoked the inflation. Just because he wasn't in office doesn't mean his measure didn't have any effect.

There aren't record numbers of illegals pouring in. There are the same number now as they were under Trump. 11 million. And for the last 5 months there have been so few that Abbott can't pull his $150 million dollar busing stunt.

We aren't at war. You seem to imagine the presidency as omnipotent. It isn't.

You can try to win arguments by making declaratory statements, but they're not as convincing as you imagine.
Gas prices shot up right when Biden took over. The Russian war didnt help, but theres no way that happens if Trump was still in charge. Biden is weak, he cant complete a sentence and he was taken advantage of.

The stimulus checks are debatable, but the Dems LOVED it. Anytime you give money away theyre all for it.

Yes, record amounts of illegals are pouring in. Turn off CNN saying we dont have a border issue in hopes to save the Biden firm.

War is costing us a fortune with no end in sight. How many wars was Trump funding? The Russia scene is a mess and now we're on the bring of WW3 starting in Isreal.
 
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Black population is 13% of the population, how many are Republicans? Maybe 1 out of 50,000? The argument was that the selection of Blacks wanting to run on a Repub ticket are so minimal that theres none to choose from, none at least with the speaking abilities of a Obama. SO why aren't there more white running backs? Answer- Because theres none to choose from. Same with black Repubs.
What? There is a giant population of white people. Any of them could be running backs. The reason they aren't is because of the fact of genetic biological predispositions. The average Han Chinese person is shorter than the average white person. The American Black population were subjected to multiple bottlenecks that selected for physical fitness. IT WAS CALLED SLAVERY. The NFL isn't filled with Ethiopians. The medal stands in the distance running events at the Olympics are though.

That's why there are fewer white running backs in the NFL. Now, apply that to your argument about Black people in politics. Are you really this racist that you think white people are just inherently born superior politicians?
 
More black people aren't in politics, because the racist Democrats keep them down on the plantation. Pretty sure I've explained this to you numerous times.

And frankly, your "genetics" theories are starting to skirt 1940's Germany. LOL 😮‍💨 😮‍💨 😮‍💨

You weren't born in South America were you?
 
What? There is a giant population of white people. Any of them could be running backs. The reason they aren't is because of the fact of genetic biological predispositions. The average Han Chinese person is shorter than the average white person. The American Black population were subjected to multiple bottlenecks that selected for physical fitness. IT WAS CALLED SLAVERY. The NFL isn't filled with Ethiopians. The medal stands in the distance running events at the Olympics are though.

That's why there are fewer white running backs in the NFL. Now, apply that to your argument about Black people in politics. Are you really this racist that you think white people are just inherently born superior politicians?
You're saying white people just aren't as good. Thats racist, how dare you!!

As for black people in politics, ive explained it 100 times. Theres plenty, considering they only make up 13% of the US.
 
Do your own homework. I researched it to my satisfaction, and, as of NOW, and until SCOTUS says otherwise, voter ID laws do not constitute a poll tax. And that is a fact, jack. Get back to me when SCOTUS says they are. Until then, quit whining about it. LOL

Any Federal election process that does not actively check to make sure only US Citizens are voting is fraudulent. Nothing you can say will change that basic fact.

Difficult and inconvenient. LOL Here's a newsflash for you Dion. Life IS very often difficult and inconvenient. Some people fold and whine, others do what is necessary.

I wonder how some of you all can even FUNCTION, day to day. LOL
No, you're assuming the default is that it isn't, when the opposite is true. The default is that any paid documentation, including ID, IS a poll tax. That's why every state, mostly Republican ones, have jumped through extra hoops to comply. You think Republicans would be offering free stuff if they didn't have to?
 
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No, you're assuming the default is that it isn't, when the opposite is true. The default is that any paid documentation, including ID, IS a poll tax. That's why every state, mostly Republican ones, have jumped through extra hoops to comply. You think Republicans would be offering free stuff if they didn't have to?

Do you realize how stupid what you just typed actually is? Head back to the library.


My side: all legal precedence up to this point.

Your side; pedantic twaddle.

I freely admit, I've had some tough days on here, but you are going up like the Hindenburg today. Or, more apropos, like inflation under President Harris.
 
More black people aren't in politics, because the racist Democrats keep them down on the plantation. Pretty sure I've explained this to you numerous times.

And frankly, your "genetics" theories are starting to skirt 1940's Germany. LOL 😮‍💨 😮‍💨 😮‍💨

You weren't born in South America were you?
See, this is a great illustration of just how unserious of a person you are. Any time someone scratches beyond the surface of an issue you retreat to proclamations and platitudes, never facts. For a numbers guy you love to ignore them when convenient. Tibetans have genetic differences that help them survive high altitudes. One is not a Nazi for acknowledging that fact. The issues come when you start judging people over them.
 
How is 2016 relevant to now? It's not. I don't get why Haley turns so many off other than the Fortress America fans. She correctly predicted Dims getting rid of Biden would help them.

As did anyone witha brain. Not exactly a world shattering prediction, there.
 
Gas prices shot up right when Biden took over. The Russian war didnt help, but theres no way that happens if Trump was still in charge. Biden is weak, he cant complete a sentence and he was taken advantage of.

The stimulus checks are debatable, but the Dems LOVED it. Anytime you give money away theyre all for it.

Yes, record amounts of illegals are pouring in. Turn off CNN saying we dont have a border issue in hopes to save the Biden firm.

War is costing us a fortune with no end in sight. How many wars was Trump funding? The Russia scene is a mess and now we're on the bring of WW3 starting in Isreal.
Gas prices have floated around 3.00 for almost 20 years. Supply disruptions due to COVID, that ship getting wedged in the Suez Canal, disruptions due to the Ukraine war, and inflation due to COVID stimulus caused prices to spike. Trump would have waved his magic wand I'm sure.

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Everyone loved the stimulus. Letting the economy crater -- aka The Treasury View -- caused the Great Depression in this country to last from 1929-1941. Was there inflation due to the stimulus? Sure. Everybody who imagines there aren't going to be stresses due to externalities raise your hand.

Trump never says where his numbers come from. My bet: stoking anger over strangers is a big win among his base. You sure sound angry. Maybe you're in his target audience. There are agencies which track such things and the number now is just where it was when Trump was president. Around 11 million. I've heard insane numbers: 50 million, 75 million. 1 out of 6 people are illegal aliens? Yeah, that tracks.

The Allies appeased Hitler. How did that work out?
 
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