Let theUhh what? They ruled exactly as I predicted/expected. No immunity for personal conduct. Do I have to start linking posts here that were predicting blanket immunity? There were many.
Clinton with Waco...Was gonna say the same thing. Looking at the big picture, Obama and Biden especially should be secretly thrilled with this decision.
And they post here too! LMAO.Anyone who thinks Biden can now drone Trump because of this SCOTUS ruling is quite literally retarded.
What I find amazing is the people obsessed with Lot's story and whether to teach it in school, but they are "all in" with the gender-queer "teaching" all the way back to pre-school.The point is even Christians would be in agreement with not having people like shinsplints “teach” the Bible. The butchery of his out of context interpretation of the story of Lot is a great example of why.
The 10 Commandments on the other hand have significant historical value concerning US history.
Has nothing to do with “owning the libs” as much as you’d like for it to. You guys really aren’t that special.
Seems like if the current admin is scared of a future admin putting them in jail for policy disagreements, then there will never be a "future admin" because the current admin will burn it all down to stay in power.As Biden did yesterday. I believe you are very short sighted and I believe most people believed, post Fitzgerald, that Presidents could make executive decisions without the fear of civil or criminal liability, but with the understanding that they could be impeached.
Under your plan, every change in executive political power would beg the question as to whether the new administration would be filing charges for some executive decision of the predecessor, now that the Dems broke the ice and started this.
You realize who you're talking to, right?? hahahaHow have you not lost all respect by now?
Don't know how you get their games, but Bally Sports carries them all for me in NKy.Can he do something about the ridiculous blackout rules?
I can't watch the reds or the Indians, even when they're on the road.
Obscene.
And to circle back to a previous discussion...we could learn if Pelosi-galore had to pay for hers.
When have I ever been anything but honest on here? You just don't like my honesty.hey DA, answer the question instead of spewing your ignorant hate. what part of this is untrue?
"most historically significant books and a cornerstone of Western civilization"?
And BTW, you inadvertently showed your true colors...
see sam ... that's how it's done!False.
For the ultimate goal of, wait for it, a member of the LGBTQ community just being seen as a normal person like everyone else???? THE HORROR!!!!!!! Definitely worthy of "people willing to put their lives at risk for the fight" to stop that...
You're right I did, apologies. Now. Ha ha insults be funny. But actually seriously, why? If intent/motivation of the president can no longer be considered, what's to stop a president using his official powers corruptly? Sotomayor alluded to this in her dissent; it isn't just internet crazies. You were quick to jump in to flaunt your expertise so I'm sure you have something concrete to add.
ONCE AGAIN ... it is a TRUE statement. That is what I asked.If you're teaching it as part of a segment on various religions, sure. But human history has a long legal tradition of which the Bible is only a small part. Putting it singularly on a pedestal in that context risks running afoul of the First.
He doesn't currently, but under Unitary Executive Theory as laid out in Project 2025 they would be under his purview.Your question is stupid. First, the president doesn’t order FBI agents.
Second, if the President’s discussions with his vice president aren’t conclusively official acts (when the vp is acting as president of the senate) how do you definitively conclude the president directly ordering fbi agents to raid a house, presumably without a warrant, would be an official act?
What I find amazing is the people obsessed with Lot's story and whether to teach it in school, but they are "all in" with the gender-queer "teaching" all the way back to pre-school.
They are insane.
I know you know the answer but I'm going to say it anyway. The left knew their insane ideas would never fly with the masses. So they developed the strategy of convincing marginalized groups that they were "there for them" in conjunction with fear tactics, keeping them afraid of everyone else so that they believe their only defense is to vote for them. The left's target audience are the fringe groups because they are the only ones this tactic works on. But instead of calling it what it is, they coined it "inclusion" because hey, that sounds pretty nice. It's actually a genius strategy and has worked well for them. I do think some of these marginalized groups (African Americans and Hispanics) are starting to see through the bullshit though.
I had a gf who once thought it wasn’t fair that the US has nuclear weapons and other countries were not allowed. Same mindset as the above. “It’s not fair society treats pedos harshly; they can’t help how they feel”.And defend a man who did Lord knows what to his daughter in the shower. At least Lot was too drunk to know what was going down.
Only a matter of time before they start pushing for incest anyway. Already pushing for normalizing pedos or “MAP” (minor attracted persons). We are still a ways from rock bottom yet but well on our way.
You just described the communist manifesto of the early 20th century and how they came to power. Being such a small group themselves this is how they separated society into marginalized groups then used the usefuls to take down the establishment.I know you know the answer but I'm going to say it anyway. The left knew their insane ideas would never fly with the masses. So they developed the strategy of convincing marginalized groups that they were "there for them" in conjunction with fear tactics, keeping them afraid of everyone else so that they believe their only defense is to vote for them. The left's target audience are the fringe groups because they are the only ones this tactic works on. But instead of calling it what it is, they coined it "inclusion" because hey, that sounds pretty nice. It's actually a genius strategy and has worked well for them. I do think some of these marginalized groups (African Americans and Hispanics) are starting to see through the bullshit though.
Yes. Democrats cannot win elections if the African American vote doesn't show up. That's why they call everything racist...they're trying to manipulate that voting bloc. Race relations aren't as bad as democrats portray them either...the only people that think they are are the ultra white libs who feel offended for everyone.I know you know the answer but I'm going to say it anyway. The left knew their insane ideas would never fly with the masses. So they developed the strategy of convincing marginalized groups that they were "there for them" in conjunction with fear tactics, keeping them afraid of everyone else so that they believe their only defense is to vote for them. The left's target audience are the fringe groups because they are the only ones this tactic works on. But instead of calling it what it is, they coined it "inclusion" because hey, that sounds pretty nice. It's actually a genius strategy and has worked well for them. I do think some of these marginalized groups (African Americans and Hispanics) are starting to see through the bullshit though.
What ive taken from today...Democrats dream about killing everyone. Sotomayor dissent is absurd bc no president is immune from being charged with murder.You're right I did, apologies. Now. Ha ha insults be funny. But actually seriously, why? If intent/motivation of the president can no longer be considered, what's to stop a president using his official powers corruptly? Sotomayor alluded to this in her dissent; it isn't just internet crazies. You were quick to jump in to flaunt your expertise so I'm sure you have something concrete to add.
Yup. I live in small town Kentucky, a place most libs would probably think is the heart of racism. Nobody cares about skin color here and we all get along fine. Seems like the left are the ones that pay attention to race and are obsessed with it.Yes. Democrats cannot win elections if the African American vote doesn't show up. That's why they call everything racist...they're trying to manipulate that voting bloc. Race relations aren't as bad as democrats portray them either...the only people that think they are are the ultra white libs who feel offended for everyone.
JailBecause both the criminal presidents of modern history, Nixon and Trump, were Republicans.
Why not though? SCOTUS just ruled official duties have absolute immunity.Sotomayor dissent is absurd bc no president is immune from being charged with murder.
Exactly, this type of conduct is now officially covered. So why would domestic operations not be?
There wasn’t any doubt in the minds of anyone who can observe and form a critical thought.
As opposed to…who do the Dems have waiting in the wings?Actually by them splitting his terms they did strategically remove a massive grip hold he’d have created with 8 straight years.
Do not kid yourself in thinking the way it’s gone is going to be as productive as him continuing on what he was on pace to do.
After Trump the party is going to struggle very badly.
He doesn't currently, but under Unitary Executive Theory as laid out in Project 2025 they would be under his purview.
Ok so you're referring to Section 2 of the decision which covers the communications with the VP and specifies that his role in that instance was as President of the Senate and so part of the legislative, not the executive branch. What would be operative though in this hypothetical is Section 1, which covers the president's communications with the Department of Justice officials who were part of the executive. Those were given absolute immunity.
For every American capitalist imperial success story there are many more exploited African, South American, Middle Eastern, and South Asian countries who haven’t been on the winning end of capitalism. Ask a factory worker in Myanmar or a farmer in Haiti how amazing capitalism is.
Codified refers to statutes. This is case law. Case law mind you that existed for probably 100 years. So yes it will apply to all future presidents, even without this decision because this elementary statement of law is far from anything new.Of course Trump should not be able to imprison Joe Biden unless Joe Biden broke the law and was found guilty of breaking the law by a jury.
However, with this ruling, now both actions are codified as being able to take place legally and lawfully as long as deemed an official decision. Not even via jury decision but by direct action from the executive at the behest of the judicial branch. So, if Joe Biden is in fact targeting political rivals, now it's fully with in his power to do so if deemed official.
And this applies both now and to every future President.
You merely celebrate it because as Trump supporter, it potentially absconds him from criminal proceedings involving his recorded phone calls to the Georgia prosecutor to "find votes". Essentially, any potential action for accountability is rolled into executive privilege (all because Donald Trump could potentially be found guilty by a jury of peers). No one should celebrate this and the only reason it is celebrated is because it may help the Trump campaign.
Accountability is not removed. There’s the impeachment process, as well as criminal prosecution for acts that are outside the scope of official duties. Criminal prosecution for constitutionally mandated of official acts is no longer on the table.
Why not though? SCOTUS just ruled official duties have absolute immunity.
Exactly, this type of conduct is now officially covered. So why would domestic operations not be?
Your question is stupid. First, the president doesn’t order FBI agents.
They're not marginalized.I do think some of these marginalized groups (African Americans and Hispanics) are starting to see through the bullshit though.