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How will they rule ??!

  • YES - Qualified

    Votes: 41 82.0%
  • NO - Disqualified

    Votes: 9 18.0%

  • Total voters
    50
  • Poll closed .
I know at least 2 dozen Trump "voters" and none of them care a wit about displaying the 10 commandments in schools. I mean, nobody ever thought to even bring it up. It's mostly about sound domestic policies.

Issues like Federally mandated abortion, religion in schools, trans rights for minors, ribbons, confederate statues etc. Those are the dominion of the stupid 40 percent (20 for each side)

Normal people don't even THINK about that crap. And since, as the current polls indicate, half or more of American voters support Trump, it's illogical to make a statement that "most Trump supporters" support that nonsense.
Agreed... but his argument on it is nuts. We have pride flags in classrooms and courts won't rule against them. Why is one religion favored over the other?.... talking from a practical point.
 
Neither a state nor the Federal Government can, openly or secretly, participate in the affairs of any religious organizations or groups and vice versa.

Neither can pass laws which aid one religion, aid all religions, or prefer one religion over another.

No tax in any amount, large or small, can be levied to support any religious activities or institutions, whatever they may be called, or whatever from they may adopt to teach or practice religion




Which btw, this was already voted on in 1980. A Kentucky classroom put up the 10 commandments. The supreme court said it violated the 1stA.
You should definitely post more against the rainbow mafia then. Those fools are putting stuff in every classroom in America and using our tax dollars to do it and it's every bit of a religion.
 
You should definitely post more against the rainbow mafia then. Those fools are putting stuff in every classroom in America and using our tax dollars to do it and it's every bit of a religion.
Yep. And that's an issue as well. What ever happened to freedom? The left wants rainbow flags and sexuality in school. The right wants the bible and the 10 commandments.
 
Agreed... but his argument on it is nuts. We have pride flags in classrooms and courts won't rule against them. Why is one religion favored over the other?.... talking from a practical point.
You already know the answer. But, I'll spell out the obvious. Academia and all things related to education are the absolute stronghold of the progressives. It's proabably the most united voting bloc the Democrats have. I would wager that it exceeds, as a percentage, even the black/minority voting blocs. Public education, has literally modeled itself after socialism, in every single way. Results and outcomes are massaged to fit the narrative, while everyone, from the students to the faculty operate in a false environment, where accountability is non-existent. It's a truly socialistic monopoly.

So, it's not surprising at all; that no matter how much of other people's money is spent, it remains an abject failure. And not just any failure either. It continues to get progressively worse.

Not that he can actually do it, but Trump said he'd like to dismante the Department of Education, and I think that would be a fantastic idea.
 
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You already know the answer. But, I'll spell out the obvious. Academia and all things related to education are the absolute stronghold of the progressives. It's proabably the most united voting block the Democrats have. It probably exceeds, as a percentage, even the black/minority voting blocs.
It's all part of their ''Long march through the institutions''. The end goal is social revolution. And overthrow of the old system. Through cultural change.



You start in academia. Then move to entertainment.
 
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Also, I don't think Trump knocked it out of the park by any means. He's actually not a very good debater (technically speaking), but he's tough to land a punch on. This was way more about (and most would agree) Biden just coming across as a man that is suffering from the onset of dementia.
I've never thought he was good at debating. He just looked good at times because the other candidates were so terrible. So many times though he could have knocked it out of the park with what someone served him and he usually missed. His "you'd be in jail" remark was probably his best retort.
 
Yep. And that's an issue as well. What ever happened to freedom? The left wants rainbow flags and sexuality in school. The right wants the bible and the 10 commandments.
The problem with your view is that you think it's "freedom from religion". Jefferson was the genesis of "separation of church and state" yet he was a Christian and donated bibles and paid for preachers for the army during the revolution. Christianity is the basis for our legal system. If you completely push out Christianity, then you undermine the point of our founding documents. Nobody is demanding people accept a religion but only Christianity is being banned.

Our constitution doesn't work in an atheist majority.
 
Trump is what he is. He's rough as a cob, a street brawler. But I'll give him credit for this; and it's one of the reasons I prefer him to all of the other choices; he hasn't spent an entire lifetime, insulated inside of the DC beltway. Where politicians spend decades "grooming" false personnas, carefully manicuring their financial "presentations" (so they appear innocuous to the casual observer or disinterested government oversight agencies), and essentially becoming a smile and a handshake in a suit. All while assuring the public that they are only there to HELP them.

I'll take crude and a modicum of transparency over that for a change.
 
The problem with your view is that you think it's "freedom from religion". Jefferson was the genesis of "separation of church and state" yet he was a Christian and donated bibles and paid for preachers for the army during the revolution. Christianity is the basis for our legal system. If you completely push out Christianity, then you undermine the point of our founding documents. Nobody is demanding people accept a religion but only Christianity is being banned.

Our constitution doesn't work in an atheist majority.
It is. You are free to worship whoever. Or not worship. Forcing christianity on students, is just as bad as rainbow flags and such in classrooms. It tramples all over human rights. Jefferson was a christian. But he understood why freedom of religion was so important. The founding fathers were a mix of christians and religious skeptics. Jefferson understood freedom of religion allowed for a more free society. This is why I say you guys are stupid. You aren't small government. You're just small government on issues you don't like. As soon as you can, you start advocating for stuff like this. The left is no different with free speech.


''Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between Man & his God"
 
There is a simple solution. All or NOTHING. (social issues/religion/etc. in schools)

I prefer NOTHING, but not because I'm against gay rights or Christianity. I'm more pragmatic. Our country is so far behind in education now, that we don't have TIME for all of that distraction in schools. We need to be focusing every hour of every school day in the pursuit of practical matters.
 





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And Jefferson was most definitely NOT a Christian. He was a deist, and rejected the virgin birth and the resurrection of Christ.
Jefferson was kind of a ''custom'' christian. He was a christian. But he didn't believe in certain aspects of it. Jefferson was no lamb, and no follower, but he considered himself a good hearer.
 
I get that. And I'm aware that he considered himself a Christian, but he, by definiton, was not. That's all I was saying.

It doesn't really bother me either way. He had enough head baggage to start with anyway, no sense in upsetting him further. LOL
 
It is. You are free to worship whoever. Or not worship. Forcing christianity on students, is just as bad as rainbow flags and such in classrooms. It tramples all over human rights. Jefferson was a christian. But he understood why freedom of religion was so important. The founding fathers were a mix of christians and religious skeptics. Jefferson understood freedom of religion allowed for a more free society. This is why I say you guys are stupid. You aren't small government. You're just small government on issues you don't like. As soon as you can, you start advocating for stuff like this. The left is no different with free speech.


''Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between Man & his God"
No offense but you're more stupid than you think I am. The whole point is that you think it's freedom from religion. You are advocating banning Christianity from public areas out of a sense of freedom "OF" religion. I'm not saying no one is pushing religion but you need to admit you are prohibiting it.
 
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No offense but you're more stupid than you think I am. The whole point is that you think it's freedom from religion. You are advocating banning Christianity from public areas out of a sense of freedom "OF" religion. I'm not saying no one is pushing religion but you need to admit you are prohibiting it.
Legally, according to SCOTUS, "no religion" is a religion. Without freedom from religion there is no freedom of religion.
Do you also think that freedom of speech means that the Constitution prohibits anyone to ever choose to remain silent, or that freedom of the press constitutionally requires all US citizens to work as journalists?


The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of
the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers,
both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by
Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test
shall ever be Required as a Qualification To any Office or public Trust
under the United States.
 
No offense but you're more stupid than you think I am. The whole point is that you think it's freedom from religion. You are advocating banning Christianity from public areas out of a sense of freedom "OF" religion. I'm not saying no one is pushing religion but you need to admit you are prohibiting it.
So what's your argument in practicality? Can any religion post their tenets in schools? Or just Christianity?
 
So what's your argument in practicality? Can any religion post their tenets in schools? Or just Christianity?
Just another auth-right christian nationalist. Pretty funny these guys are the ones railing about ''government overreach'', isn't it?

Government overreach when it's something I don't like. For the greater good when it's something I support.
 
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To tie Jefferson back to the debacle we witnessed last night. If you're not familiar with Jefferson and Adams running against each other, the bitter feud between them made the golf/dick measuring contest last night seem like child's play.

At one point, a Jefferson operative/pamphleteer accused Adams of being a hermaphrodite, while Adams' folks said that Jefferson enjoyed prostitutes, and promoted, nay ENGAGED in incest. LOL
 
Just another auth-right christian nationalist. Pretty funny these guys are the ones railing about ''government overreach'', isn't it?

Government overreach when it's something I don't like. For the greater good when it's something I support.
Ranked Choice Voting. After a night like tonight we're faced more than ever with the highlighted reality of the quality of candidate our first-past-the-post system produces.
 
For rank choice voting to actually make a difference, you would need American voters to pay a lot more attention to politics/platforms, and put in some actual thought about how to rank their votes effectively in order to effect chan.....

I can't even type all of that with a straight face....
 
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I want Fetterman for POTUS.

Him dwarfing that little desk in the Oval Office, wearing basketball shorts, and a DK hoody would be priceless.

(Also, and I never saw this coming, I find myself agreeing with him more and more)

Formal WH dinner parties, turning into "your best track suit" and a rousing game of Edward 40 hands would be sublime.
 
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I want Fetterman for POTUS.

Him dwarfing that little desk in the Oval Office, wearing basketball shorts, and a DK hoody would be priceless.

(Also, and I never saw this coming, I find myself agreeing with him more and more)
He's gotten more based since he broke up with his socialist GF.
 
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For rank choice voting to actually make a difference, you would need American voters to pay a lot more attention to politics/platforms, and put in some actual thought about how to rank their votes effectively in order to effect chan.....

I can't even type all of that with a straight face....
Why? All you do is rank the candidates you like. If Trump, DeSantis, Biden, and Bernie were on the ticket together I think most people could put those four in order of preference pretty easily.
 
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