That shit was so bad it had to be coordinated to get him to drop out.
This board is hilarious. That debate isn’t causing people to change their vote. Half the country is voting Biden and the other half worships Trump. The people who claim to be undecided are either stupid or lying. It’s the same shitty candidates as last time. One was a catastrophe when faced with a global pandemic and the other is old but cleaned up Dear Leaders mess and at least has things moving forward in a positive way economically. Not perfect but still a better option. Trump was always going to win this election though. Nothing changed last night. It’s not like either one of them are good debaters.
Only the Democratic Party would be dumb enough to leave Newsome sitting on the bench when he’s the best option to beat Trump. It’s like Cal not starting Reed and Rob.
Newsom is a pathological liar.... You call tell he's lying by the simple fact of when his lips are moving. That said, he has his wits about him, and he's a very smooth talker. You can pretty much bet on the MSM covering for him on his dismal record of governing CA. A lot of low information voters would certainly pull the lever for him.They are almost unanimously saying Newsom.... That dude has wrecked Cali worse than Biden has wrecked the US... granted he's had more time to EFF up...LOL. But it is hilarious that all their choices are worse than the other.
Her escape hatch is being the CA governor if Newsom jumps in. That's the only face-saving play I can think of.Kamala is getting pumped up by the leftist media. She is their only shot. They bump her out and they lose even more black vote.
Keith's misery is my unmitigated joy.....
The quality of my candidate seemed just fine.Ranked Choice Voting. After a night like tonight we're faced more than ever with the highlighted reality of the quality of candidate our first-past-the-post system produces.
It really is breathtaking how quickly the Dem establishment, the self proclaimed protectors of democracy, have very openly moved to a position of ignoring and throwing out the results from all of their primary elections.
Newsome might beat Trump and would actually give him a run for his money. Lots of people would pull the lever for him including me. Dude checks a lot of boxes and has charisma that Biden clearly doesn’t have. Would be a great choice and alternative to the BS these two bums give us. Most of this country is sick of these two being our option.Newsom is a pathological liar.... You call tell he's lying by the simple fact of when his lips are moving. That said, he has his wits about him, and he's a very smooth talker. You can pretty much bet on the MSM covering for him on his dismal record of governing CA. A lot of low information voters would certainly pull the lever for him.
The only liability Newsom has is being a straight white guy. That's seriously a major handicap in Democratic circles.
This has to be one of the saddest things I’ve seen. The man has no idea what’s going on. We’re supposed to believe he received more votes than any President in history. Obama is fundamentally changing the U.S. just like he promised. Four more years of this and we’re done as a nation, if we’re not already.
Sure, Biden gets credit for all those massive price drops. HE SAVED US. Him and his photographer memory.Gee I wonder what happened during that time that caused inflation and extreme price gouging from Kroger and the other couple of grocery chains? But hey I’m sure they’ll be more than happy to stop collecting record profits because Trump asks nicely right? Target, McDonalds, etc. have started dropping prices some because they can’t keep gouging forever though. Does Biden get credit for those price drops too?
Trump debates well when the topics are specific. It got off track last night due to the subject matter and Biden's inability to handle his lack of brain matter.
And no, we don't need a 3rd option. Why do people always say that? If there was a good 3rd option, then they would have been on the stage last night in one of the two spots. And why do we need someone else vs the person who will get us turned around? His pre-covid numbers for our economy speaks volumes, and we were #1 on the global stage.
Trump did nothing special thats for sure. At least this time he let senile biden ramble on which he didn't do last time. Hopefully that shows some semblance of him finally listening to someone about strategy instead of just giving in to impulses.
Hopefully he can stick with it but hes just as likely to start raging about the normal stuff next time
The best path to victory imo is the non zealous dems just stay home.
Going to be interesting to see if biden is the nominee.
Nobody comes off worse than Kamala, and she's a nasty, vindictive debater. Vivek would eat her for lunch.He sucks up to Trump. It's clear that he's just bandwagoning on Trump's coattails and thinks he's the heir apparent to that movement. It won't happen. Some of the same people I see excited here about Vivek were also so excited to see Daniel Cameron win the GOP primary where I was telling folks here Cameron would make a terrible general election candidate (which was proven right).
What stance is that? The one where he'll consider aid to Ukraine as an interest-free loan that may or may not need to be paid back?And now you hate him and his supporters because of his Ukraine stance. It’s fine. You’re allowed to change your mind. Just don’t lump him in with Biden’s mental capacity (which I’ll take at your word that you didn’t, although it definitely appeared that way).
This board is hilarious. That debate isn’t causing people to change their vote. Half the country is voting Biden and the other half worships Trump. The people who claim to be undecided are either stupid or lying. It’s the same shitty candidates as last time. One was a catastrophe when faced with a global pandemic and the other is old but cleaned up Dear Leaders mess and at least has things moving forward in a positive way economically. Not perfect but still a better option. Trump was always going to win this election though. Nothing changed last night. It’s not like either one of them are good debaters.
Only the Democratic Party would be dumb enough to leave Newsome sitting on the bench when he’s the best option to beat Trump. It’s like Cal not starting Reed and Rob.
Gaetz? LMAO.Yeah I was thinking that's who was standing by that picture or painting but wasn't 100% sure. So it's looks like by that picture it's Gaetz Vivek or Burgum.
The good news is it doesn't appear that Tim Scott was there. Trump/Vivek Trump/Gaetz (the most unlikely one IMO) or Trump/Burgum is the 24 ticket.
Was Vance there?
Here is the thing demonstrating how crazy this country is right now. Over 35% of people polled said Biden won the debate. The looney left is entrenched and has no objectivity.
Only the Democratic Party would be dumb enough to leave Newsome sitting on the bench when he’s the best option to beat Trump. It’s like Cal not starting Reed and Rob.
That is the real conundrum for them, isn't it!??! On the one hand, they are saying he is unfit for the job and needs to drop out of the campaign. On the other hand, they are saying he is NOT unfit and sharp as a tack, and fully capable of being president.i wonder who will be the first to bring up the 25th amendment?
Their better option by far is Whitmer.They are almost unanimously saying Newsom.... That dude has wrecked Cali worse than Biden has wrecked the US... granted he's had more time to EFF up...LOL. But it is hilarious that all their choices are worse than the other.
Can not disagree more.I think there is a strong argument to be made that Trump lost the debate.
I think we should throw garbage back to them and say stupid shit like ... Kamala should run, she punches all the tickets and would be the biggest challenge to Trump. Or Bernie. Or Hitlary...They are almost unanimously saying Newsom.... That dude has wrecked Cali worse than Biden has wrecked the US... granted he's had more time to EFF up...LOL. But it is hilarious that all their choices are worse than the other.
I thought I could never be more sympathetic for someone who has lost their marbles than last night, but then I read this.It’s the same shitty candidates as last time. One was a catastrophe when faced with a global pandemic and the other is old but cleaned up Dear Leaders mess and at least has things moving forward in a positive way economically.
Just pointing out that when a couple places drop prices that we don’t give the president credit. So hopefully you have the same standard when Trump comes back into office. My whole thing is these companies are going to absolutely gouge us for as long as they can and then they’ll drop prices just a little bit but they’re never going down to pre Covid prices. They’re making way too much profit.Sure, Biden gets credit for all those massive price drops. HE SAVED US. Him and his photographer memory.
And this is why we are in the shape we are as a country. People like you would rather import inane, destructive California policies across the country rather than have a guy in office who implements practical common sense policies that benefit this country. All in the name of orange man bad TDS.Newsome might beat Trump and would actually give him a run for his money. Lots of people would pull the lever for him including me. Dude checks a lot of boxes and has charisma that Biden clearly doesn’t have. Would be a great choice and alternative to the BS these two bums give us. Most of this country is sick of these two being our option.
Newsome is the absolute worst kind of politician. He's run California into the ground too, been up for recall twice in a state full of democrats, but San Fran and LA keep him in officeNewsome might beat Trump and would actually give him a run for his money. Lots of people would pull the lever for him including me. Dude checks a lot of boxes and has charisma that Biden clearly doesn’t have. Would be a great choice and alternative to the BS these two bums give us. Most of this country is sick of these two being our option.
I just hope republicans are dusting off law books across the country figuring out ways to strictly enforce state laws
They’re either all incredible actors, or just truly stupid people.
My prediction, Biden will have some sort of Medical Event before the DNC convention that will allow him to step aside so the Dems can replace him. This will be the Dems graceful way out of this mess of a presidency.
This sounds too much like a General Mgr saying, "i have full confidence in Coach Soandso" two weeks before canning him.
Nothing to do with orange man bad TDS. And I’m not saying Newsome would be perfect. But he’s better than Trump. Trump botched the handling of the pandemic and was a disaster throughout his term in lots of ways. He failed on the biggest stage when faced with a crisis and you’re ready to put him back into office. Again Biden or newsome aren’t perfect but I’m not voting in the guy that wants to install the “Project 2025” doctrine and dismantle the Goverment like you morons want to do.And this is why we are in the shape we are as a country. People like you would rather import inane, destructive California policies across the country rather than have a guy in office who implements practical common sense policies that benefit this country. All in the name of orange man bad TDS.
Well they have seen “jacked up Joe” show up for SOTU addresses and other past events and at least appear slightly more fit. Just adds more to my suspicion last night was at least partially set up to initiate the plans for replacement. One could argue the approach of putting Biden through a week of intense debate preparation was counterproductive. He looked exhausted from the moment he hobbled on to the stage. Maybe that was their intention.I just hope republicans are dusting off law books across the country figuring out ways to strictly enforce state laws (if any) that require the candidate chosen by the people to be on the ballot, not the candidate chosen by the DNC because they don’t like who the people picked.
My biggest surprise last night is the panel on CNN seemed surprised by this performance. Yes they’re all pathological liars, but they seemed genuinely surprised by the incompetence of Joe Biden we’ve been warning them about for months. They’re either all incredible actors, or just truly stupid people.